Serious side effects- my opinion

I was allowed to get mine at our medical centre April 21st but we won’t be here.
 

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Becky1951 said:
Am I the only one who notices that every article relating to Covid vaccine serious side effects state how rare they are?

One state reports a few serious side effects, even possibly a death.

Another state reports similar happening a few days/weeks later.

Another state reports same days later. And so it continues.

Each article stating how rare it is.

Yes its rare when only counting how many were given the vaccine in that particular state vs how many had serious side effects in that state.

But adding all states together reporting since vaccinations began how many given the vaccine vs how many serious side effects, those serious side effects are creeping up..

Yes, you can reply with the CDC sites statistics showing those numbers they have, how many were vaccinated vs serious side effects.

But then try to remember how many times articles relating to serious side effects claim, we are investigating the serious side effects and will have updated information later.

I think their "investigating" is only investigating medical "experts" who will agree with them that their vaccines are safe with only "rare" serious side effects.

Just my opinion of it.

Those here in the forum who have not experienced serious side effects, that's great, however try to remember just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it's not happening or it's fake news, or someone is against vaccinations.
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For no more than what they know about the vaccines I don't see how they can say it's rare. I don't think it will be anymore as more people get it.

Time will tell as to whether or not I can continue with them. Depends on how my body reacts over time.

However I don't think that people should be so quick to write off not getting them cuz they THINK they may have a reaction either. At some point you're gonna hafta make a decision between the virus and the vaccine. I'm glad I took the chance. They are discovering new things all the time so maybe they'll find a way to make one that's safer.

Just yesterday or day before I shared a story in my diary where they had a group of people they had to administer the vaccine to a little differently than normal to keep them from having a reaction. I understand being scared. I was scared too. But I was more afraid of what the COVID would do to me. Having a reaction to a vaccine seemed a lot better than drowning on lung fluid.

Give it time...do what you gotta do for you regardless of what me or anyone else or any media entity tells you. Just don't make the decision based on media that may be inaccurate.
 
We still wear our masks when out shopping. We got both doses of Moderna vaccine. We had no reaction. The choice is an individual one. Do we feel safer? Not really, that is why we still follow what we think is in our best interest.

Maybe because we are together 24/7 in retirement for the last 26 years we are comfortable. Not everyone can deal with the change covid-19 has affected others.
 

I'm not anti-vaccine but this push for distributing the vaccine is getting to be ridiculous. That's all you hear now on the News. I'm not getting it, Period! Why should I? My body does not make antibodies with having Agammaglobulinemia. Yet my Oncologist said that I should get the vaccine. When I asked him why since it probably would not help me, his answer was anything is better than nothing. Well this new experimental vaccine that no one knows the long term side effects, they can keep it. Leukemia has screwed up my body and I know how I feel taking medications, most my body rejects or have bad side effects form. By reading at some of the side effects mentioned in this thread, no thank you.
Which brings me to this subject: Vaccine Passport. Since they tell me that I should get the vaccine that means my doctors will not give me a pass to not get it. Which means I will not have the Vaccine Passport. Am I to be punished for not taking this vaccine because more than likely my body will reject it? I'll do the social distancing, mask wearing, washing hands etc. but for the vaccine, they can keep it. Btw I have been using Hand Sanitizer every day since 2012 since I was diagnosed with CLL. I keep stocked up with Hand Sanitizer even before Covid hit. Never had the flu since 2012. I'll go on doing what I'm doing, it seems to be working for me.
 
MarciKS said:
For no more than what they know about the vaccines I don't see how they can say it's rare. I don't think it will be anymore as more people get it.

Time will tell as to whether or not I can continue with them. Depends on how my body reacts over time.

However I don't think that people should be so quick to write off not getting them cuz they THINK they may have a reaction either. At some point you're gonna hafta make a decision between the virus and the vaccine. I'm glad I took the chance. They are discovering new things all the time so maybe they'll find a way to make one that's safer.

Just yesterday or day before I shared a story in my diary where they had a group of people they had to administer the vaccine to a little differently than normal to keep them from having a reaction. I understand being scared. I was scared too. But I was more afraid of what the COVID would do to me. Having a reaction to a vaccine seemed a lot better than drowning on lung fluid.

Give it time...do what you gotta do for you regardless of what me or anyone else or any media entity tells you. Just don't make the decision based on media that may be inaccurate.
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This is the most sensible post I have read. I was a little scared to get the vaccine too but more scared of getting Covid. Honestly I don't want to die the way a lot of people with Covid die. It sounds like a horrible death. I do think you should do what you think is best for you. Maybe talk to your doctor. My friend said she wouldn't get the vaccine but after talking to her doctor, she did get the vaccine. She was in the ICU on a ventilator several years ago and told me she never wanted to go through that again.
 
ProTruckDriver said:
I'm not anti-vaccine but this push for distributing the vaccine is getting to be ridiculous. That's all you hear now on the News. I'm not getting it, Period! Why should I? My body does not make antibodies with having Agammaglobulinemia. Yet my Oncologist said that I should get the vaccine. When I asked him why since it probably would not help me, his answer was anything is better than nothing. Well this new experimental vaccine that no one knows the long term side effects, they can keep it. Leukemia has screwed up my body and I know how I feel taking medications, most my body rejects or have bad side effects form. By reading at some of the side effects mentioned in this thread, no thank you.
Which brings me to this subject: Vaccine Passport. Since they tell me that I should get the vaccine that means my doctors will not give me a pass to not get it. Which means I will not have the Vaccine Passport. Am I to be punished for not taking this vaccine because more than likely my body will reject it? I'll do the social distancing, mask wearing, washing hands etc. but for the vaccine, they can keep it. Btw I have been using Hand Sanitizer every day since 2012 since I was diagnosed with CLL. I keep stocked up with Hand Sanitizer even before Covid hit. Never had the flu since 2012. I'll go on doing what I'm doing, it seems to be working for me.
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" anything is better than nothing."

Uh no...that's not right. If you can't make antibodies how is that vaccine gonna help? You just do what's best for you. If everyone around me at work wouldn't have been getting COVID I never would've gotten the vaccine.
 
ProTruckDriver said:
I'm not anti-vaccine but this push for distributing the vaccine is getting to be ridiculous. That's all you hear now on the News. I'm not getting it, Period! Why should I? My body does not make antibodies with having Agammaglobulinemia. Yet my Oncologist said that I should get the vaccine. When I asked him why since it probably would not help me, his answer was anything is better than nothing. Well this new experimental vaccine that no one knows the long term side effects, they can keep it. Leukemia has screwed up my body and I know how I feel taking medications, most my body rejects or have bad side effects form. By reading at some of the side effects mentioned in this thread, no thank you.
Which brings me to this subject: Vaccine Passport. Since they tell me that I should get the vaccine that means my doctors will not give me a pass to not get it. Which means I will not have the Vaccine Passport. Am I to be punished for not taking this vaccine because more than likely my body will reject it? I'll do the social distancing, mask wearing, washing hands etc. but for the vaccine, they can keep it. Btw I have been using Hand Sanitizer every day since 2012 since I was diagnosed with CLL. I keep stocked up with Hand Sanitizer even before Covid hit. Never had the flu since 2012. I'll go on doing what I'm doing, it seems to be working for me.
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Rhode Island is currently working to pass legislation to protect the unvaccinated from discrimination. It may vary from state to state so check out what your state's policy will be. I'm very worried about vaccine passports myself. ☹️
 
boliverchadsworth said:
I am from the goverment I am here to help you....get your hysteria here get your ice cold hesteria here--
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In the military, we had to give the troops shots for just about everything, and you'd be amazed at the number of them who had an out and out panic reaction.

My reaction to the vaccine was what one expects from same. I became ill with COVID symptoms all over again.. High fever, headache, no appetite, joint aches and pains, etc. This lasted for 4 days, but was much milder than the actual COVID itself. After the 2nd shot, my symptoms were for only 2 days, and much lower fever. I did not panic as I knew I had the antibodies and that this was the reason for that reaction.
 
tbeltrans said:
I certainly hope that you aren't judged, because it is a personal choice to get (or not) the vaccine. The only judgement I can make is whether I want it or not. What the next person does is really none of my business.

Tony
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A lot of my so called friends have turned funny with me tbeltrans .......so 3 down and 10 to go ..😂😂
 
My 95 yr old mother, will not be having the 2nd jab ....(she didn’t want the 1st ) as she’s had swollen legs and feet , dr advised against any more jabs.....
Mums not been out for 4yrs , before the covid even started.....
 
charry said:
A lot of my so called friends have turned funny with me tbeltrans .......so 3 down and 10 to go ..😂😂
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I don't understand what is happening. If you look at some of the so-called news sites, you will see many items of "this guys said that about the other guy" and the "left wing" vs the "right wing", endless back and forth bickering. It is all the same stuff people acted out in grade school. Our respective cultures seem to be becoming increasingly childish and I am continually wondering when we are going to finally grow up and act as a mature nations with a very real place in the world. The UK and the US have long stood together in tough times, and now we seem to be getting sillier and sillier instead.

It also seems that friends come and go these days, so I assume that the term "friends" means something entirely different from what it meant at one time. Everything seems so fluid, with no moorings to build a life on. It is unfortunate and I suppose that if you go against the grain, you go it alone. Sad, to say the least.

Tony
 
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Warrigal said:
I've lived as long as I have thanks to modern medicine and I'm not going to baulk now because there may be side effects. The whole point of vaccines is to shake up the immune system and for a short while there is a biological fight going on in the body. It is unsurprising that we feel unwell, especially after the second booster shot.
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I feel exactly the same way. Modern medicine saved my life several times, the first was when I was in my mid-twenties.
 
Lewkat said:
My reaction to the vaccine was what one expects from same. I became ill with COVID symptoms all over again.. High fever, headache, no appetite, joint aches and pains, etc. This lasted for 4 days, but was much milder than the actual COVID itself. After the 2nd shot, my symptoms were for only 2 days, and much lower fever. I did not panic as I knew I had the antibodies and that this was the reason for that reaction.
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That's what I went through after my first vaccine, but not quite as strong and for a shorter period than you. (I had a mild case of Covid starting in late December which left lingering symptoms for nearly 3 months.)

My second shot is next week - I've got some sofa time scheduled as my immune system will likely respond again.
 
At some point you're gonna hafta make a decision between the virus and the vaccine.
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Well put, Marci. And it's probably true of every single medication we take. All those pills come with umpteen pages of warnings. The TV ads for medications are legally required to list all the horrific side effects, including (my favorite): "death." Yet, the probability of these awful reactions is tiny. Leaving the ethics out of it, the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't be exposing themselves to all those million dollar lawsuits if lots of people were having terrible side effects, or dying.

From what I've heard of Covid, and seeing those numbers rise into the millions, it seems to me that the vaccine is a very, very minor risk, comparatively. Just breathing is a risk!
 
There are 2 ways to reach "herd immunity" which will make it hard for the virus to find someone to infect. One is to get antibodies from the vaccine and the other is to get antibodies from getting the disease. I chose the vaccine. Due to some underlying health issues, if I got Covid, there was a high chance of hospitalization if not death. However, personally I don't think you should make this decision based on sensationalist media stories. Some people shouldn't get the vaccine and if you are concerned, I would ask my doctor.
 
Assumptions you probably shouldn't make (based on experience and what I've read):
  • The vaccine will keep you from getting covid.
  • The vaccine will stop the spread of covid.
  • Covid is much worse than, say, H1N1. (Note: Reporting methods were changed for covid to included "assumed to have" when counting deaths.)
  • The vaccines are killing people.
  • Masks work.
  • You must make a decision between getting the vaccine and getting covid. People with good immune systems probably won't get covid, regardless.
  • The CDC and WHO are not political organizations.
  • Covid efforts are altruistic and are in no way influenced by money or politics.
  • Doctors will tell it like it is and not say things to cover their ass (and keep their insurance coverage).
 
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Here are some more assumptions people probably SHOULDN'T make, based on my experience and what I've read
  • The vaccine will be ineffective at preventing you from getting Covid
  • The vaccine will be ineffective at preventing the spread of Covid
  • It's wise to decide about vaccines based on the 1% stats rather than the 99%
  • Covid illness and death rates are no worse than the flu.
  • The vaccines carry a much higher chance of death than Covid
  • No need to bother with masks - they don't work
  • Having a robust immune system will surely protect you from contracting Covid, because no previously healthy people have died from it.
  • Virtually every organization - and person - has a political agenda of some sort
  • Many epidemiologists, virologists, scientists and medical personnel are not altruistic nor do they care deeply about people's health
  • No need to bother with a vaccine - your friends and family will be delighted to host you in their homes either way.
 
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chic said:
I hope so too. It's been 13 months. I'm sure I've been exposed and my immune system is handling it.
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Same here. And we were all exposed to the virus BEFORE masks & "Social Distancing" were in place (assuming they protect).
 

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