Should Daylight Savings Time be ended?

Sunny

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My state legislature just passed a bill doing away with the semiannual clock change that everyone hates. The paper said that most of the other states did the same. At last, something we all can agree about!

There are apparently more medical problems, traffic accidents, and all sorts of serious consequences when we move the clocks an hour forward or back. Everybody complains. In the spring, when we move forward, we feel like we are forced to get up an hour earlier (it says 7:00 but feels like 6:00) but gives us an extra hour of daylight in the evening. In the fall the reverse happens. We feel like we've gained an hour of sleep (though we really haven't, of course), and it gets dark much earlier. The proposed change would move everything to permanent daylight savings time, with more light in the evening.

How do you feel about it? Does it happen in the rest of the world, or is it only an American thing? I think it was invented a century or so ago, to help with the agricultural season, but that's not exactly where most of us are now.
 

Sunny said:
My state legislature just passed a bill doing away with the semiannual clock change that everyone hates. The paper said that most of the other states did the same. At last, something we all can agree about!
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I googled it and found that Germany started daylight savings time, I'll paste the link below to the article. It also says this:

"Under federal law, states must receive Congressional approval to adopt year-round daylight saving time. According to The Old Farmer's Almanac, at least 15 states, including Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Maine, Oregon, Tennessee and Washington, have all passed bills to permanently spring forward, but have not been given federal approval to permanently move their clocks forward an hour.

Bills have been proposed at the federal level to move clocks forward by an hour permanently across the country, but none have been passed by either chamber of Congress.

If a state were to choose to observe standard time year round, it would not be subject to Congressional approval."


https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/how-daylight-saving-time-got-started/2666081/
 

I grew up on a dairy farm, daylight savings was one of the worst things for milk cows. they said it was for the farmers not any I knew. it messed with milking time, cows liked to be milked at the same time everyday. many years we wouldn't change the time. just figure out how to get where we had to be, leaving the cows alone. if they think it is for the farmer today or any day, "they" are spreading a load of crap. My father back in the 60s said, they changed the time so doctors could golf longer. When the Germans invaded France they wanted to enact a time change, the French called it "Hitler time." I think it still fits today.
 
Australia has a bit of a hit and miss approach to daylight saving, some have it, some don't.

Used to be an interstate Express Coach driver and couldn't stand that stupid arrangement, when driving across borders and having to tell the passengers that they now need to change their watches.

As they have now entered a state, or leaving it, that runs on a 'Mickey Mouse' time zone.
Used to get a lot of complaints from the dirty and unwashed masses, about using that 'analogy'.

Be buggered if I could see any difference between the daylight, or night, as we crossed the border.
 
I would like to stay on standard time and do away with daylight saving. There is one advantage to changing our clocks twice a year and that is lots of people's clocks will show the time more accurately. If people did not check, there clocks the world would be more disorganized than it currently is.
 
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Yes. I learned as a child it had to do with conserving energy during the war, but then it was the farmers or school kids getting a school bus in the mornings. But the WWI I do believe is correct, begun by Germany.
 
Spring forward, Fall back. Soon when most working people and school kids rise, it is going to be an hour darker outdoors and an hour lighter after they come home. The sun will no longer be at maximum altitude at mid day, noon, 12:00pm but rather unnaturally an hour later at 1pm. Every 6 months news media floods our news with biased pro DST articles because their prime advertisers, retail, leisure, media, and travel industries, and their political allies benefit from it. In recent decades, ordinary people, sick of being whip lashed twice yearly, have increasingly protested that has caused politicians fearing loss of DST for their advertisers, to promote permanent DST lest it end up Standard Time.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/its-time-to-dump-daylight-saving/#slide-1

Americans don’t like it, because it doesn’t make sense. It’s that time of year when we “spring ahead” and switch to daylight saving time (DST). There is a good chance that this annual adjustment of the clock will damage not only your wallet but your health, too.

Before the adoption of standard measures of time, churches, city halls, and trains kept solar time. Every city, depending on its location, observed its own solar time, once referred to as “true time” in the United States. In the early 19th century, there were more than 300 “sun zones” in the U.S. alone. It wasn’t until the proliferation of railways that time standardization arose to resolve logistical and scheduling nightmares and passenger confusion, not to mention fatal railroad accidents...

So, this Sunday, with the exception of Arizona and Hawaii, the U.S. will spring ahead for daylight saving. And yet polls suggest that 70 percent of Americans don’t approve of switching back and forth between standard time and daylight saving time. Could it be that they’re on to something?
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What is never mentioned by pro DST news articles is that if the public doesn't like during spring and fall going home during evenings in the dark, instead of changing clock time, they could instead simply request whatever infrastructure to change the time they operate. For example, have employers or schools change operating hours say from 9 to 5 to 8 to 4. During summer we get up and go home during daylight so there is no issue. Conversely during winter, it is dark when we get up and go home during daylight so again there is no issue except by being on ST, dark periods are at least even, early and late. In any case, this is more an issue at northern areas where daylight hours change more due to natural Earth tilt sun illumination physics and less to the south.

Those promoting DST realize it is far easier to convince the simple thinking of the public masses to change the clock time versus requesting commercial and government entities to change their operating hours. That noted, operating times regardless are being changed all the time and given modern communication, it is easy for citizens to know about changes by simply turning on their smartphones then going to whatever websites or making a phone call. Thus I see their primary argument as flawed and manipulative.

As some may have come to understand from the brief period this person has been on this web board, that I have a strong dislike for media bias and disinformation that though has historically always occurred but has in this senior's experience has greatly increased in this recent modern science and telecom era because manipulation is so much easier.
 
I read that it was passed in my state last year, but before it could get to Congress, it was drowned in the deluge of Covid. We had more important things to worry about. So they're trying again.

Personally, I belong to the "pick one and stick to it" crowd. I don't care which one.
 
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