Should it be Citizenship then origin

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Wontactmyage

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As an American, I believe that it should be citizenship first then Origin of birth. Such as American Mexican, American African, American Brit and so on. It is used for American Indians, so why the change when other peoples that come from other parts of the planet and pledge citizenship here in America? It seems a little un-unifying.
 

IMHO you are a citizen of the country you are either born in or presently registered as a citizen in. I was born in America so I am an American citizen and to whatever country I migrated to I would consider myself a citizen of that country. I wouldn't say I am American French, American Mexican, American Asian, American African, American Pakistani and so on. Anyway does it really matter?
 
Nope...I like the words in the order they are. The other way sounds, well....backwards.
@dseag2 You wrote: "Seems African Americans don't really care these days." I assume you meant that to be taken in the context of the most recent survey/graph cited in article you posted. That would mean we don't care which term (between Black and African American) is used, not that we just don't care, correct?
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Nope...I like the words in the order they are. The other way sounds, well....backwards.
@dseag2 You wrote: "Seems African Americans don't really care these days." I assume you meant that to be taken in the context of the most recent survey/graph cited in article you posted. That would mean we don't care which term (between Black and African American) is used, not that we just don't care, correct?
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Yes, that is correct. My interpretation from the poll is that neither Black nor African American is preferred. Simply American? I was so hoping you would join this thread because I would love your input. Everyone here needs to be informed. Is Black or African American a term that was created by White people or is that something you would prefer? Please forgive my ignorance.
 
I have always felt that calling the U.S.A. America is a misnomer. We have North America and South America. All the individuals on these two continents are technically Americans. Anyway back on topic. I think it works the way it stands now. Geographic origin then citizenship. My people were from Ireland and Wales but when it comes to citizenship I consider myself a citizen of the United States of America. 🇺🇲

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American works for me.

I prefer the Melting Pot theory, save the racial and ethnic identifiers for holidays and heritage events.

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dseag2 said:
Yes, that is correct. My interpretation from the poll is that neither Black nor African American is preferred. Simply American? I was so hoping you would join this thread because I would love your input. Everyone here needs to be informed. Is Black or African American a term that was created by White people or is that something you would prefer? Please forgive my ignorance.
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I wholeheartedly agree. Historically I would be labeled as colored and that was that. The new politically correct label is Black. In the 60's Black Nationalist hung the African American moniker on those of us who had pride in just being an American. Now some African Americans or Black Americans or Black Nationalist will deride a Black citizen who labels themselves as just an American yet choke a person of another race to death for calling them colored yet those same African Americans donate their African American or Black American money to the N.A.A.C.P. Strange.

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Lavinia said:
In Britain, it's the other way round..e.g. British Asian. Personally I think Asian British would be more accurate, as they have been part of our society for only a short time.
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Did they not become British citizens. To pledge allegiance to defend Britain against all entities? Would there be a personal conflict if their “original” country attacked Britain?
 
Why are Americans the only country to want to be known by their long passed ancestors ?

You don't hear a Brit calling themselves an American Brit.. or an Australian Brit, or an African Brit or a Roman Brit, or a Saxon Brit..... nor do you hear a German Irishman, or a Russian Jamaican. or a Japanese Chinaman ...

Why can't you all just be the country of your birth...American.....or British if you were born here and now live in the states ..or irish if you were born here.. However, Irish American, Italian American..African American.?.. when did anyone calling themselves African American.. ever visit Africa?>. much less be born there... seriously if you were born in America, you're American...
 
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Lavinia said:
In Britain, it's the other way round..e.g. British Asian. Personally I think Asian British would be more accurate, as they have been part of our society for only a short time.
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if they are Asian and born and raised ..they are British.. no need to add any other nationality to their name. They can certainly be proud of their heritage, and say they were born into an Asian /Indian/African family.. but British is their nationality... just in the same way as any colour or creed born and raised in the USA are American..or in Canada Canadian..
 
FlaSkyEye said:
IMHO you are a citizen of the country you are either born in or presently registered as a citizen in. I was born in America so I am an American citizen and to whatever country I migrated to I would consider myself a citizen of that country. I wouldn't say I am American French, American Mexican, American Asian, American African, American Pakistani and so on. Anyway does it really matter?
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I see a separation these days to not be just an American. We almost all are from somewhere else some time in our generations however we are all American citizens or should be if we live in this country. To make a distinction seems to set aside that many took the pledge and we should continue to take the pledge to be a unified people.
 
dseag2 said:
I don't disagree with simply "American" unless someone wants to emphasize their culture and heritage. Seems African Americans don't really care these days. I think these are nomenclatures that White people have implemented over the years.

https://news.gallup.com/vault/315566/gallup-vault-black-americans-preferred-racial-label.aspx
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This 1969 data explains why I have largely given up being "socially correct." In my non-racist childhood upbringing, I don't even recall our darker skinned friends being referred to as anything related to skin tone. But, I have always wondered who came up with the trend-of-the-day, socially "correct" terminology. It has changed so often over my lifetime for several things, it just seems rather silly to me. I had a "mongoloid" brother who became a victim of "Down's Syndrome." My son with several behavioral traits (disabilities) received five different labels (diagnosis) in his school years, all trying to describe the same thing - but, at different points in time, being the "socially correct" terminology. Give me a break!

Back to the topic at hand, I think "American" is label enough, whether you were born here or chose to become one of us. We are the "melting pot" of the world, after all.
 
Em in Ohio said:
This 1969 data explains why I have largely given up being "socially correct." In my non-racist childhood upbringing, I don't even recall our darker skinned friends being referred to as anything related to skin tone. But, I have always wondered who came up with the trend-of-the-day, socially "correct" terminology. It has changed so often over my lifetime for several things, it just seems rather silly to me. I had a "mongoloid" brother who became a victim of "Down's Syndrome." My son with several behavioral traits (disabilities) received five different labels (diagnosis) in his school years, all trying to describe the same thing - but, at different points in time, being the "socially correct" terminology. Give me a break!

Back to the topic at hand, I think "American" is label enough, whether you were born here or chose to become one of us. We are the "melting pot" of the world, after all.
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but they call themselves..African American.. irish American... etc.. that's silly... they are Americans' nothing more nothing less.. regardless of creed or colour
 
When I was little I was taught the America is a melting pot. I thought we were the only melting plot, and all other countries were horrible at assimilation. But the problem is that in America, there is always someone that has to stir the pot.
 

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