Should men serving life for murder be allowed to marry?

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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A bill pending in RI will allow them to for the first time, and it is likely to pass. Would this mean that any children would have to visit their fathers in jail forever and that we would probably have to support them? Methinks that this is dead wrong as their victims are, one a girl of seventeen..
 

Absolutely agree. Our state has so many problems that this is ridiculous to spend time debating the merits of such a bill...
 

I worked for over three years in a men's and a women's prisons. I worked with prisoners given 25 years to life sentences. Marrying was one of the main objectives for the inmates, because the new spouses can contribute to their financial income. Spouses are even allowed to provide small appliances for their chosen inmates.

Many of the spouses are people that in normal society are outcasts for many reasons, and sometimes marrying a lifer is the only way they see oh having a relationship. It is a con, but most people that marry inmates subconsciously know this, and see it as a fair trade.

You might ask what these people get out of marrying prisoners. Well their inmate spouses write continuously providing them with attention never before recieved, they tell them of love and desire. They even give promises of a loving future, if their new spouses will just provide the lawyers to help them get out of prison.

As the parent of a murder son, I do not think these marriages should be allowed, but that is not the reality.
 
vickyNightowl said:
I think they should get a special wing for conjucal visits and free daycare also.for the future kids. Jk

Who votes on this crap?
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Vicky.
You just reminded me that the UK do gooders are trying to get it so prisoners have the right to vote in General Elections and the like.
As far as I am concerned, if you go to prison, then you give up certain rights as well.
I could go on a rant here, but I have to watch my blood pressure, but just like you, in respect of this issue, and tons of others, I do often think...

Who votes on this crap?:mad:
 
I don't really have an opinion since I believe execution to be more effective than a life sentence. But an interesting book about the mentality of people who have relationships with prisoners is " Visiting Life" by Bridget Kinsella.
 
I remember many years back that one of our state legislators was going to propose that prisoners be allowed to keep pets that required a minimum amount of maintenance, For example, fish, turtle, parakeet, etc. No cats, dogs and such. That bill never even made it to the floor.
 
I think for non-violent offenders the puppy training programs are good for all concerned. But if you're a lifer obviously you did something violent, therefore you've given up your rights to anything at all.
 
oohjarwatsit said:
The mentality of anyone wishing to marry a lifer must be in question.:rolleyes:
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Whenever I read about another prisoner marriage, I've thought, what a waste, uselessly taking a good woman out of circulation.

Then I read oohjarwatsit's post. Now I feel like they're doing us a service.
 
Ina said:
I worked for over three years in a men's and a women's prisons. I worked with prisoners given 25 years to life sentences. Marrying was one of the main objectives for the inmates, because the new spouses can contribute to their financial income. Spouses are even allowed to provide small appliances for their chosen inmates.

Many of the spouses are people that in normal society are outcasts for many reasons, and sometimes marrying a lifer is the only way they see oh having a relationship. It is a con, but most people that marry inmates subconsciously know this, and see it as a fair trade.

You might ask what these people get out of marrying prisoners. Well their inmate spouses write continuously providing them with attention never before recieved, they tell them of love and desire. They even give promises of a loving future, if their new spouses will just provide the lawyers to help them get out of prison.

As the parent of a murder son, I do not think these marriages should be allowed, but that is not the reality.
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Well spoken, and informative. I'm sorry for your loss, Ina.
 
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No. They should not be allowed to enjoy having a mate or propagate after having taken away those same things along with the lives of their victims.
 
This made me curious so I Googled prisoners marrying and found a coupla websites about how to marry a prisoner, so I guess some people want to. I've heard of married prisoners for years, but only in novels and on "King of the Hill" and "Frasier," and I don't know what crimes those prisoners had committed. I like the idea of prisoners doing rehab work with dogs and horses and other animals ... depending on the person and the crime.

I have no personal opinion on the RI thing. I don't even think about a New England state like Rhode Island having murderers or prisons. Yeah, I know it does. But it doesn't fit my image of Rhode Island at all. But then my idea of RI is Roger Williams and Quakers.
 
boozercruiser said:
Vicky.
You just reminded me that the UK do gooders are trying to get it so prisoners have the right to vote in General Elections and the like.
As far as I am concerned, if you go to prison, then you give up certain rights as well.
I could go on a rant here, but I have to watch my blood pressure, but just like you, in respect of this issue, and tons of others, I do often think...

Who votes on this crap?:mad:
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Many moons ago,a family member and 2 of his friends tried to smuggle cocaine in. They got caught,the mother was so upset that her son ,got 2 years. I told her she shouldd count her blessings cause who knows how many could have died from the use.

Two years,basketball courts,good homemade food bbrought to him...
He was just a child but ffs.when you make the punishment fun..
 
I didn't know you could take homemade food into a prisoner.

I think they should allow marriages in prison only between people sharing the same cell block or whatever it's called. Leave the outsiders out of it.
 
I was kind of surprised to learn in a different situation. You cannot directly send prisoners books. I didn't really think about it before but yep if you ever saw "Midnight Express". Hardcover books and you can send a contraband treasure trove. Books for prisoners have to go sealed through approved vendors...who knew?
 
Life sentence, in storage until he croaks, the sooner the better. The would be spouse belongs in the nut house.
 
Linda said:
I didn't know you could take homemade food into a prisoner.

I think they should allow marriages in prison only between people sharing the same cell block or whatever it's called. Leave the outsiders out of it.

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As far as I know, men and women are NEVER on the same cell block, at least not here. They're usually not even in the same prison here.
 
No problem for me at all in the UK. I assume they will not consummate the marriage so zero children will be involved and no expense incurred .

Gay marriage, whatever keeps them happy also, much as I ain't no gay marriage lover.
 
Guitarist said:
This made me curious so I Googled prisoners marrying and found a coupla websites about how to marry a prisoner, so I guess some people want to. I've heard of married prisoners for years, but only in novels and on "King of the Hill" and "Frasier," and I don't know what crimes those prisoners had committed. I like the idea of prisoners doing rehab work with dogs and horses and other animals ... depending on the person and the crime.

I have no personal opinion on the RI thing. I don't even think about a New England state like Rhode Island having murderers or prisons. Yeah, I know it does. But it doesn't fit my image of Rhode Island at all. But then my idea of RI is Roger Williams and Quakers.
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Not like here in the UK then, where prolific serial killers are flooded with fan mail and marriage proposals . Strange old world.
 

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