Six-year-old in custody after shooting teacher

jimintoronto said:
A Canadian perspective. In our criminal code a child of 6 would never be charged nor prosecuted for such an act. The Parents on the other hand WOULD be charged with a number of criminal code offences relating to the hand gun such as " improper storage " and "criminal negligence resulting in bodily harm " and "endangering a minor ". Upon conviction, the accused would face a prison sentence of up to ten years.
JimB.
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Same in the US.

This child won't be charged with anything. The state will take custody of him (that's already happened) and he'll be placed into a foster home specifically for troubled children where his mental health will be evaluated, and he'll get whatever therapy he needs.
 
Mike said:
Why did a 6 year old have a gun?

I heard on the news, about this, the police are saying,
that this was not an accident, but a premeditated act.

What will happen to a child under these circumstances,
the parents have to be responsible for having guns in
the open that let him carry one to school.

Mike.
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The child will be placed in a foster home for troubled youth. He'll be interviewed and evaluated, and receive therapy. When it's deemed safe, he'll be placed in a regular foster home, and he'll go back to school.
 

Murrmurr said:
If you own guns, you're not likely to get a foster-care license.
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Weapon Storage:
Washington received comments from foster parents related to storing guns and ammunition separately. Prior to 2016, Washington did require weapons and ammunition to be stored separately. We received comment from law enforcement noting that unloading and loading weapons on a daily basis actually causes damage to the weapon, leading to misfiring, or other mechanical issues.

Washington’s administrative rules were changed in 2016 to allow guns and ammunition to be stored together, but only when stored in a gun safe. This still maintains safety in the home for the children, does not cause wear and tear to or malfunction of the weapon, and allows for quick access for protection.

Of course, other states might restrict.
 
Disgustedman said:
Weapon Storage:
Washington received comments from foster parents related to storing guns and ammunition separately. Prior to 2016, Washington did require weapons and ammunition to be stored separately. We received comment from law enforcement noting that unloading and loading weapons on a daily basis actually causes damage to the weapon, leading to misfiring, or other mechanical issues.

Washington’s administrative rules were changed in 2016 to allow guns and ammunition to be stored together, but only when stored in a gun safe. This still maintains safety in the home for the children, does not cause wear and tear to or malfunction of the weapon, and allows for quick access for protection.

Of course, other states might restrict.
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Some state's foster-care system might prohibit firearm ownership, I don't know, but all of them have very specific rules about storage and locks. There are policemen who's homes are licensed for foster-care.

Generally speaking, if you own firearms, you are not likely to obtain a foster-care license....certainly less likely than people who do not own guns. Most states just don't want to deal with it.
 
I bet the kid didn't like the ring in her nose? Still, that's not a good reason to shoot anyone!

In Canada, they are always talking about giving "power" to the students. I hope they know what they are talking about. A 6 year kid with a gun is power all right!
 
Disgustedman said:
Weapon Storage:
Washington received comments from foster parents related to storing guns and ammunition separately. Prior to 2016, Washington did require weapons and ammunition to be stored separately. We received comment from law enforcement noting that unloading and loading weapons on a daily basis actually causes damage to the weapon, leading to misfiring, or other mechanical issues.

Washington’s administrative rules were changed in 2016 to allow guns and ammunition to be stored together, but only when stored in a gun safe. This still maintains safety in the home for the children, does not cause wear and tear to or malfunction of the weapon, and allows for quick access for protection.

Of course, other states might restrict.
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Loading & unloading a semi auto firearm repeatedly can damage the ammo; not the gun. And that damage only applies if the ammo is repeatedly chambered & ejected, as opposed to only loading in the magazine. The "damage" to the ammo can occur because in an auto, the cartridges are pushed into the gun's chamber with force from a strong spring. After several chamberings, the bullet can be pushed deeper into the cartridge case, which increases pressure & can cause malfunctions due to the total cartridge length being shortened. Factory ammo usually has asphalt around the case to prevent that. And when the ammo is ejected, the extractor & ejector scratch & dent the rims of the case.
That doesn't apply to a revolver because the ammo is simply dropped into the chambers & can be unloaded by tilting the gun.
 
Farrah Nuff said:
You said beating, not me. Discipline isn't beating. Discipline can be gentle yet firm guidance.
I don't know what you read or where but there were no lines to read between.
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I read your words - "Spare the rod." (one of the most asinine phrases ever)
 
win231 said:
Uh, yeah. This happens due to insufficient child beating. :rolleyes:
An often-used excuse for ignorant parents to take their frustrations & anger out on their kids & call it "Discipline."
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No, this is what happens when a country worships its guns and its government refuses to stand up to the NRA and implement strict gun laws. The U.S. is so damn proud of being a world power, but its track record of gun violence is that of third-world country. It just makes me sick that the U.S. government doesn't give a damn about all the innocent lives...many of them children...that have been wiped out by gunfire. What the hell kind of a country is that?
 
Catballou said:
No, this is what happens when a country worships its guns and its government refuses to stand up to the NRA and implement strict gun laws. The U.S. is so damn proud of being a world power, but its track record of gun violence is that of third-world country. It just makes me sick that the U.S. government doesn't give a damn about all the innocent lives...many of them children...that have been wiped out by gunfire. What the hell kind of a country is that?
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The NRA does not advocate leaving guns lying around the house unsecured. That is as stupid as can be.
In fact, the NRA advocates safe storage of firearms & so do I. I always tell brain-dead parents there are lock boxes specifically designed for firearms that allow quick access while not allowing access to unauthorized persons. But there is really no way to instill common sense in an idiot.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...uick-access/&usg=AOvVaw18GbDsD8SjFdj2gZgWAwO-
 
win231 said:
The NRA does not advocate leaving guns lying around the house unsecured. That is as stupid as can be.
In fact, the NRA advocates safe storage of firearms & so do I. I always tell brain-dead parents there are lock boxes specifically designed for firearms that allow quick access while not allowing access to unauthorized persons. But there is really no way to instill common sense in an idiot.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjsh-rRlrf8AhW-JEQIHdj3C7AQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-bedside-gun-safe-quick-access/&usg=AOvVaw18GbDsD8SjFdj2gZgWAwO-
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Well by golly, if the NRA says it's so, who could possibly question that? God and guns both start with the same letter. Sounds like divine planning to me! And why do they call themselves the National Rifle Association? Where do handguns fit into their mantra? Concealed carry too, it's gotta be a little tough to conceal and carry a rifle around, I'd think. But I sure am not one who knows it all. Maybe you can enlighten the rest of us or have a theory you can share? Your link is for handguns, not rifles. Did you know that?
 
win231 said:
The NRA does not advocate leaving guns lying around the house unsecured. That is as stupid as can be.
In fact, the NRA advocates safe storage of firearms & so do I. I always tell brain-dead parents there are lock boxes specifically designed for firearms that allow quick access while not allowing access to unauthorized persons. But there is really no way to instill common sense in an idiot.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjsh-rRlrf8AhW-JEQIHdj3C7AQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-bedside-gun-safe-quick-access/&usg=AOvVaw18GbDsD8SjFdj2gZgWAwO-
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So what? No one should have guns in their house to begin with. And NO ONE should be allowed to own automatic weapons. Most other developed countries don't have anywhere near the numbers of mass shootings per capita that the U.S. does.
 
Farrah Nuff said:
Well by golly, if the NRA says it's so, who could possibly question that? God and guns both start with the same letter. Sounds like divine planning to me! And why do they call themselves the National Rifle Association? Where do handguns fit into their mantra? Concealed carry too, it's gotta be a little tough to conceal and carry a rifle around, I'd think. But I sure am not one who knows it all. Maybe you can enlighten the rest of us or have a theory you can share? Your link is for handguns, not rifles. Did you know that?
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This is a very good point. I don't know the history of the NRA, but I'm assuming that when it was formed it advocated for the safe and lawful use of RIFLES...like for hunting. Somehow, over the decades, it has morphed into an organization that advocates the ownership of handguns and automatic weapons as a god-given right. How the hell did this happen? The words of Charleton Heston rings in my ears, "You'll have to pry my gun from my cold, dead hands." Ugh.
 
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