Smoking

Davey Jones said:
As an engineer doing dirty work on machines and occasionally reaching into my shirt pocket for a cigarette,the wife screamed "I am not washing amymore of those work clothes shirts and pants with all that grease and stains,you have any idea how hard that is to remove??
I quit then.
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You were a good husband and easily influenced, it would take far more than that for most. Good for you, she did you a wonder favor in complaining!
 

I smoked (2 X 20_ for some 30 years. (where I came from, belief is that, one starts to smoke, when one starts to buy cig's.
Then in 1988, i gave up "cold turkey" About a year ago, I started again. Just trying to give up, for last week, I'm on patches now!
 
Nothing worse than a reformed smoker !.... yep !.. I'm one of them.

Starting smoking at the age of 34, gave it up at the age of 49 (circa 1992).
Not a big deal, I went to the Docs 'cos I was having terrible night sweats and a bad cough.... x-rays showed pneumonia. Just stopped smoking there and then... threw the remaining fags in the bin and never had the urge to smoke again.

So far, I've outlived my elder brother by 8 years (he died in 2005) and no health issues to talk about 'cept creaky hip joints. One thing I've gained is an acute sense of smell.... I can smell a smoker from 20 paces 'cos they stink and don't know it !



My daughter who is 43 years o age, took up smoking 2 years ago when she split from her husband.... I'm hoping that she'll kick the habit before it gets her.
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terra said:
Nothing worse than a reformed smoker !.... yep !.. I'm one of them.
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Funny, you mentioned that! My wife still smokes, regardless that she suffers with pulmonary carcinoma.
I'd say, for my self"Once a smoker, always a smoker!
It is tantalizing for me to be near someone ,who smokes. Smells good!
 
Diwundrin said:
That's understandable GDAD, I worked for the railways and never travel on trains.
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DI; TAKE IT FROM ME SMOKING KILLS. I AM OFF TO A FUNERAL TO-MORROW OF A FRIEND(DIED OF LUNG CANCER)WHOM I WORKED WITH. SMOKES FREEBIES FOR 30 YEARS.
ONE OTHER FRIEND PASSED(THROAT CANCER 10 YEARS AGO). & LAST WEEK ANOTHER FRIEND JUST STARTED CHEMO FOR THROAT CANCER ALL WORKED AT ROTHMANS.
OH, I DON'T TRAVEL ON TRAINS EITHER PREFER MY TOYOTA. I HAVE SEEN HOW RABBITS WITH THEIR HEAD PUT IN A CHAMBER WERE SUBJECTED TO CIGARETTE SMOKE
& HOW MANY WERE DISSECTED & FINISHED UP WITH CANCERS OF ALL TYPES.....tAKE THE ADVISE OF YUL BRYNER=====DON'T SMOKE!
 
Yes Gdad I hear you YELLING at me and if it's okay with you, even though I'm aware that the smugness of non and reformed smokers gives them delusions of being free to insult any who don't agree with them, I'll have a fag any damned time I feel like it!

If you want a statistics duel I can name vastly more smokers I've known who died of non smoking relating causes than science would want to make public. I've known a few who did die of what is commonly blamed on smoking who didn't smoke and didn't come from a household who smoked. I've been privileged to have known 2 centenarians who smoked since they were kids.
There are anomalies in any statistics, we get born, we play our cards, and we take our chances.
We are all going to die of something. Do try and appreciate that if your dire predictions hold true then we'll die earlier and there will be less of us aging and taking up space in the ever tightening accommodation in aged care. We're doing you a favour.

No one is getting out alive. All the health nazis will die, even vegans aren't immortal and anti-smoking nazis still breathe in all the other toxic garbage in the air and sit and suck their cafe lattes down in outdoor cafes dragging in exhaust fumes without turning a hair and that is a damned sight more carcinogenic than getting a whiff of tobacco smoke from a passer by.

My last uncle died a few months ago, from lung cancer. He gave up smoking 54 years ago and had been an active anti smoking campaigner ever since! Drove us all mad with it! Lot of good that did him.
Get over yourselves.
It's a holier than thou obsession that until now on this thread I've ignored.

I don't mind that you think I'm an idiot, but I won't be YELLED at however well intentioned.
I have weighed up risks and other factors and made the decision to continue to smoke. My reasons are not your business.
That is my business, my life, and I pay my own medical expenses which up until this time have had no correlation whatever to smoking. I have no desire to live too many more years in this condition anyway so bring it on! That okay with you??

Sorry, not aimed just at you alone, your post just triggered a venting. I'm tired of being nannied and controlled by authorities, and insulted by snide comments and cartoons.
Like the subject of religion, we may not agree with others decisions on it, and may even ague on it, but it is not our right to denigrate that decision nor to issue an order in bold capitals like 'DON'T BELIEVE!"
It's a matter of etiquette.

I consider it an abrogation of my right to the freedom of choice. People who campaign for their rights to do whatever they consider sacred have no compunction in doing their damnedest to prevent others exercising theirs if what those others choose to do 'annoys' them.

Know what 'annoys' me? The smell of strong perfume and beer and other people's feral grandkids in restaurants. Let's start a campaign to ban them!

I shall now attempt to quell my Darth Vader alter ego with a feed of chocolate. ... and a cigarette!
 
Di, I hope you enjoyed that ciggie and chocolate....:playful:
As far as I'm concerned, it's just the luck of the draw re those that get smoking related diseases....
My dad died from emphysemia at 65, he smoked all his life but also worked in mines when he was about 14
and suffered from lung problems all his life.....
Smokes or the mines.....:dunno:


 
Anne said:
Pappy, what is ME???

I was checking a movie with my granddaughter, and mentioned it was rated R, and I couldn't see why it should be. She said, oh, there might be smoking in it. Wow.
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Sorry Anne, I didn't see this question. ME is a station we get up north, not down here, that has all the old programs like......Dragnet, Emergency, Car 54 where are you, all the real oldies. Rest assured it is not a R rated movie.
 
I find it silly ( actually rather stupid) that for years people have been trying to outlaw smoking and have succeeded in most places. Those same people are now pushing to legalize smoking.( s different leaf, but still smoke going into the lungs).

The tobacco they said was killing people and even said it was harmful to those nearby that didn't smoke.The other leaf they want to smoke they say is harmless.These people are very strange. Some of them I think are on this forum.

A show of hands, how many on here have quit tobacco but now want to legalize smoking pot?
 
I got through school without smoking but at 18 was learning to fly in the RAAF and after going solo in a Winjeel out over Port Philip Bay in Melbourne one of the other cadets came up to congratulate me and offered me a cigarette. I was so buzzing I took it. 33 years later I quit after trying for six years to follow my wife's example. I still remember how hard it was to quit and I calculated that in those smoking years I had literally smoked a house ($330,000 in 1999 dollar figures!) I tried all sorts of quit measures but in the end I followed the instructions for three months on the Nicabate patch packets and was nicotine free. I notice these days there is an inhaler that looks good - I dont need it though!!
 
I don't think smoking tobacco or marijuana should be banned. I quit smoking cigarettes years thirty years ago, of my own accord...don't need a nanny government telling me what to do, or the smart way to do it. Pappy's right, it's not the tobacco, it's all the chemicals that big corporations mixed with the tobacco to rake in the profits that's the real killer. I think I heard recently that they're trying to ban those "E-cigarettes", either completely or from being used in public places. :rolleyes:
 
Pappy said:
I read yesterday that in Oregon you can no longer smoke in your car if there is a small child in it. Okay if it is adults, no kids.
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That's been the law here for about a year now. I smoke and have for years. I've tried cold turkey, patches, pills, acupuncture, you name it. These days, I've given up smoking in the house so I'm smoking less because it so friggin cold out. I enjoy my smoke!!!!
 
I think it began at CAL and now many universities across the country are making smoking illegal anywhere on campus. Free Speech is still okay for the time being . . .
 
Pappy said:
I read yesterday that in Oregon you can no longer smoke in your car if there is a small child in it. Okay if it is adults, no kids.
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... yet I saw pictures today of hundreds of people lined up in the Colorado snow to buy weed on the first day of its legality for recreational purposes. :eagerness:

Oh, I'll move to Colorado
With a bong upon my knee
Then I'll buy some legal pot there
And my spirit will be free

Mar-i-juana
Oh, you're so good to me
So I'll move to Colorado
With a bong upon my knee
 
That's a tough number to match, Kel.

My own smoking habits (tobacco ;)) have been on and off over the years, even though I started when I was 18.

55-18=37 years

Of those 37 years I smoked for approx. 25 of them. Not always the same amount each day, either, but for simplicity let's say a pack a day.

25x365= 9,125 days = 9,125 packs.

The price of a pack has gone up considerably since I started, but I also smoked premium European brands for a long while, so I suppose a fair average price would be $4/pack.

9,125 packs x $4 = $36,500.


... maybe I could get my trailer with that ... :rolleyes:
 
SeaBreeze said:
I don't think smoking tobacco or marijuana should be banned. I quit smoking cigarettes years thirty years ago, of my own accord...don't need a nanny government telling me what to do, or the smart way to do it. Pappy's right, it's not the tobacco, it's all the chemicals that big corporations mixed with the tobacco to rake in the profits that's the real killer. I think I heard recently that they're trying to ban those "E-cigarettes", either completely or from being used in public places. :rolleyes:
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They can ban E-cigs all they want, but it must be in public places. Otherwise, who is gonna know?
 
TICA said:
That's been the law here for about a year now. I smoke and have for years. I've tried cold turkey, patches, pills, acupuncture, you name it. These days, I've given up smoking in the house so I'm smoking less because it so friggin cold out. I enjoy my smoke!!!!
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Switch to the E's and it won't be a problem....less expensive too!:sentimental: I know so few anymore who smoke, when it used to be almost everyone I knew did. I hear it takes a few days to get used to the weight of it but gives the same enjoyment. It's worth a try and would mean you could smoke in the house.
 
SifuPhil said:
That's a tough number to match, Kel.

My own smoking habits (tobacco ;)) have been on and off over the years, even though I started when I was 18.

55-18=37 years

Of those 37 years I smoked for approx. 25 of them. Not always the same amount each day, either, but for simplicity let's say a pack a day.

25x365= 9,125 days = 9,125 packs.

The price of a pack has gone up considerably since I started, but I also smoked premium European brands for a long while, so I suppose a fair average price would be $4/pack.

9,125 packs x $4 = $36,500.


... maybe I could get my trailer with that ... :rolleyes:
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Wow, you have me there. I had that figure worked out years ago and now I cant replicate it but I know I used a higher per pack cost than $4 and I was averaging 40 a day for those 33 years. Even at $8 a pack that's only $192,720 - so I stand corrected and feeling relieved that I smoked a smaller house than I originally thought!!
 
Katybug said:
They can ban E-cigs all they want, but it must be in public places. Otherwise, who is gonna know?
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Why should American citizens have to hide behind closed doors, to use a device that has helped them stop the cigarette habit? Isn't this helping people stop or curtail the smoking habit that may not only be harmful to them, but others around them?? I haven't been following any of this, and have never even touched one of these things, but I've heard that they're trying to stop their sales.

Kind of like telling people how many ounces of a soft drink they may purchase. Neither of these items are hurting anyone else, but that doesn't matter anymore. They want to protect us from ourselves, for our own good...of course! After all, none of us are intelligent enough to make our own personal decisions, we await directives from above, and trust all that is recommended. :rolleyes: Maybe if the FDA was so concerned about our health, they would stop putting out (and "approving") harmful vaccines, prescription meds, GMO foods, toxic additives in our meats and other foods, fluoride in our water, etc., etc. Here's a short article on the e-cigarette...http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...he-anti-smoking-lobby-s-clueless-crusade.html
 

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