Some Things Just Can't Be Explained

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I am really sorry for this lady's loss. I can't even begin to imagine her feelings at this time. It's a horrible thing to have happen to one of your children.

Over my 37 years in law enforcement, I have also investigated many dog bites. I remember on one occasion, the lady that owned the dog (Pit Bull) said the dog had never even so much as growled at anyone. The dog had attacked a young boy visiting the lady's Grandson and they were playing some kind of game in the backyard, when the dog decided to attack the young boy causing a lot of damage to the boy's neck and right arm. I went to visit him while he was in the hospital just a few days later and he was still very stressed and of course, in a lot of pain.

Like I said, "Some things just can't be explained."

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/broward/article212188759.html
 

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Pit Bulls are infamous for suddenly attacking strangers and their owners.
Obviously there is something in their DNA that makes them unstable.

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I don't care what anyone says, Pit Bulls should be declared illegal and "put down". Every single one of them. The only value they have is to be used in dog V. dog combat. People who engage in dog fighting are scum.
 

I too have often wondered why dogs suddenly turn on even their owners but we must remember that dogs are descendants of wolves and wolves are hunters and killers so it is possible for a dog for some reason unknown to us to become wolflike for just a short time and attack.
 
It was not clear whether the dog who attacked the baby would be put down.
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Really? Nah, I think the dog should be adopted by another family with a baby.

Seriously, what possible reason could there be for keeping the dog alive?

For once, Traveler, I agree with you. Pit bulls should be banned; how many more attacks will it take before this happens?
 
Like I said once before, I cringe when someone says that "Pit Bulls get a bad rap". One just needs to look at the death statistics.

2017 - According to wiki, last year 12 people (of all ages) were killed in the US by Pit Bulls (or mixed-pit).
No other breeds had more than one victim for the year except German Shepherds (5) and Mastiff (2)

So far in 2018 - Fatalities number 5 for Pit Bulls. No other breeds have multiple fatalities this year so far.
 
I like all dogs but it does seem like that when you read about a dog attack most of the time it involves a pit bull.

The chart states "death due to dog bite injury" so it may also include rabies or other infections caused by being bitten not just actual fatal attacks (I dunno) plus the chart says 'Americans' so I'm assuming that the statistics of other countries aren't included.

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I have noticed that the owners of Pit Bulls tend to be men of a certain low-class. Often they are drug users/dealers. Those men are attempting to be ultra tough guys like the infamous case of Ex-Pro quarterback Michael Vick and his kennel of fighting dogs.

Personally, I don't want such men, or dogs, anywhere near me.
 
It's more genetic than being mistreated. They are bred to be aggressive!

Yes they can be trained to fight, but the base of the problems is genetics caused by breeders .
This "breeding" or genetic engineering to produce dogs with powerful jaws and aggressive dispositions are to blame. Add further training to attack and you have a real problem.
 
Lara said:
...and we do have a real problem. Now what?
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Gosh Lara, good question. Would it be feasible to place a moratorium on breeding more pits for awhile? I wouldn't know for how long though.

Maybe prohibit breeders from breeding certain dogs who are known attackers altogether?

I think most communities have laws against dogs running around unleashed. For those owners, no slap on the wrist but a hefty fine, but then, maybe they will just abandon the poor dog. I don't know.

Anyone else?
 
KingsX said:
.Pit Bulls are infamous for suddenly attacking strangers and their owners.

Obviously there is something in their DNA that makes them unstable..
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Traveler said:
I don't care what anyone says, Pit Bulls should be declared illegal and "put down". Every single one of them. The only value they have is to be used in dog V. dog combat. People who engage in dog fighting are scum.
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I agree 100%.

Yet. pit bull owners are sooooo defensive. :rolleyes: There was a member here at SF who ranted constantly about "stupid people who don't like pit bulls". Mail carrier refused to deliver her mail. Then one day she posted about how she was trying to scrape together some money because her precious "pittie" got loose and bit her neighbor. Hmmm.

Pit bulls are monsters. They should be banned then wiped off the face of the earth. The whole subject makes me want to PUKE. :mad:

Glad they are banned in the suburb where I live.
 
I wonder if some drug selling cartels use pit bulls because they make deadly guard dogs in keeping away anyone who would threaten their "business".......
 
From what I've read about what happened to the German Shepherd (which was a LONG time ago), their name was actually Alsatian Wolfhound.

Strong and intelligent, unethical breeders used these traits to create an aggressive guard dog; putting together the most feisty and aggressive of the litters until they became dangerous. They even changed it's name to German Police Dog- something to be feared; a mean, junk yard dog.

After awhile few people wanted anything to do with these dogs so slowly, breeders reversed their former habits and bred the more gentle of the litters. They also needed to change the name again and what's more loving and protective than "shepherd"? Eventually the "German Shepherd" was saved.

This dog had a natural slight sloping of it's lower back. Suddenly some "genius" at the AKC and dog clubs abroad decided this posture to be a desirable trait for champion Shepherds and became a standard. So, overbreeding dogs with this trait caused thousands of dogs to be almost unable to run normally and feel pain when walking more than short distances.

I wish they would have left dogs alone.
 
I got my current dog from the county shelter and spent a few weeks checking out the dogs available for adoption. Seemed like about 80% of their dogs were pit mixes.
 
RadishRose said:
From what I've read about what happened to the German Shepherd (which was a LONG time ago), their name was actually Alsatian Wolfhound.

Strong and intelligent, unethical breeders used these traits to create an aggressive guard dog; putting together the most feisty and aggressive of the litters until they became dangerous. They even changed it's name to German Police Dog- something to be feared; a mean, junk yard dog.

After awhile few people wanted anything to do with these dogs so slowly, breeders reversed their former habits and bred the more gentle of the litters. They also needed to change the name again and what's more loving and protective than "shepherd"? Eventually the "German Shepherd" was saved.

This dog had a natural slight sloping of it's lower back. Suddenly some "genius" at the AKC and dog clubs abroad decided this posture to be a desirable trait for champion Shepherds and became a standard. So, overbreeding dogs with this trait caused thousands of dogs to be almost unable to run normally and feel pain when walking more than short distances.

I wish they would have left dogs alone.
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I totally agree.

But, not meaning to argue, if dogs had been left alone, they would all look like wolves. Every breed of dog has been selectively bred to conform to certain desirable traits. The sheep herding dogs , for example. Lovely dog. Great friend of man.

Where I live, the chihuahua is very popular. Personally, I can't stand the yapping little things. IMO, they are no longer dogs, but closer to rats. hahaha
 
Elsie said:
I wonder if some drug selling cartels use pit bulls because they make deadly guard dogs in keeping away anyone who would threaten their "business".......
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Apparently the preferred dog for California drug dealers is the Presa Canario, which if raised to be aggressive, can make a pitbull look like your garden variety Sunday School teacher.

The last study I saw said that the cocker spaniel was responsible for the most dog bites in the US. Maybe so, but it's a loooong distance between a nip on the ankle from a cocker which might or might not break the skin and getting your throat torn out by a pit or a Presa Canario.

I know that the so-called "aggressive breeds" aren't all killers (I had a pitbull next door that thought he was a miniature poodle lap dog), but I would never have an aggressive breed dog in the house with a child.
 
Press canerio were the breed that was part of a Court TV episode back when they were still live.
I believe there were 2 that mauled and possibly killed a woman in California.
I'm vague on the details it would have been in the early 2000s
 

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