State of the Union Address

I'm only allowed one nomination for POTUS per election.
It's written in the constitution somewhere in the fine print.

Problem with our PM? Me ? I think he's so good he deserves a promotion.
Will no-one second my nomination ?
 

Sticking my oar in.....again; the little I know of Australian politics; a change will come soon enough...
my reasoning; I did a tour in SA with an Australian lady at the very end of June; when back-stabbing was last in season.
we got so involved that we ended up in a little 1/2 horse town, reading a paper, in Afrikaans, to find out the latest episode; gripping!
 
Aussie politics has never been so entertaining.

It just keeps getting better and better.
Or worse and worse, depending on your perspective.

BTW, backstabbing is always in season.
There are already early signs of a palace coup but the time is not yet ripe.
 
I should add that a Democrat is a "liberal" as opposed to a "conservative". Different countries have different meanings.

Confusin' innit? Our 'right' is called the Liberal Party. Long story short and simple for those who came in late... originally there were the Tory, fiercely right rich and toffs Party and Labor for the rest of us. Then a middle of the road, middle class representing one was formed that wasn't either. It represented employers and small business people, so well right of Labor, but long short of Tory. At the time Liberal was the best description compared to the far right stance of the Tories.

The Tories vanished into history so our Labor/Dems and Liberals/Reps aren't really as poles apart ideology wise as they appear to be in the US.
We fight over their hairstyles because in most things their policies are interchangeable.

History ramble
It's always been an irreverent and largely egalitarian society here. With a few loathed snobby exceptions, the highest in the land, the academics,the filthy rich, the famous, were as likely to be, and expected to be, found sharing a beer with the plumber and butcher at a local barbie as at a black tie dinner. Business dealings etc were separate classes, socialising was not.

It's changed gradually over the last few decades, more due to the change in media than in character traits though I think. I've been at gatherings where looking at us from outside we all appeared to be working class 'bogans' in casual attire and it was impossible to pick the 3 millionaires from those who could barely cover their mortgage. They'd grown up together, or had been mates for many years and the change in circumstances made no difference to that on either side. We didn't give any credence to wealth or society status, just to character. Before paparazzi type media there was very little 'class consciousness' here and multis and movie stars were accorded the same degree of familiarity as Joe up the road.

Any pretensions were, and are, cut down to size ruthlessly. We didn't need the Tories. We'd 'crushed' the aristocracy in our own way and they were just one of us with slightly different political bias or they got very lonely.
So 'Liberal' is as right wing as we needed to get. Still damned confusing though.
 
Ours is slightly different.
our Tories are Consevative and to the right.
originally they were opposed by the Whigs, or liberals, to the left..ish.
then along came Labour, to the left, and the Liberals started fading away, merged re-invented themselves, and.......ended up in a coalition with ...the Conservatives.....at present.
to be continued in 2015....
 
I am not sure....I find it very difficult to cope with the Republican far right, tea party etc...and your left isn't as left as our left.....
 
Politics is just a game CeeCee, I can't get that excited about either side's ideologies and don't get why others do. I just enjoy ripping into them as a word exercise. But I've been on political forums that were a steaming mess of loonys frothing away as if Politicians were worth having a stroke over. They all seemed to take the abuse as par for the course, and I suspect enjoyed the fights or they wouldn't have kept coming back. Don't recall any threats of law suits over it though, those who can't take the heat just drop off the forums. As I did eventually, frothing isn't my style, I don't care enough about it all, it wasn't abuse that tired me of it, it was the mental abyss of the average poster that scared me most on those forums.

Politics is fun to argue over, it's not important enough to fight over. (I view religion in the same vein, but most don't.)
 
How true Di, whoever it is.....and wherever it is, nobody seems to be able to tell the truth, including the Pope!
 
We, I think, are trying to understand everybody's different systems...it saves confusion, because your Liberals are not the same as ours!

I certainly can't be bothered to argue over it! But I bet the US want our NHS! Free at the point of delivery!
 
Catching up on replies I missed between answering CeeCee and finally getting around to posting, I really have to try harder to keep up.

I've been a swinging voter, depending on the circumstances of the time. 'Born' Labor/Democrat then shifted to 'lite right' Liberal/Republican in later life. I'll swing back again when and if I feel that's the thing to do. I've been anti Labor lately due more to the fleas who have corrupted it's purpose and agenda than against it's original ideology. It no longer represents the people it was formed to represent. Simple as that. I'm not pro-Liberal so much as just see them as the better of 2 bad options. Guess in the US I'd be a reluctant Republican.

I know nada, zero and zot about UK or NZ politics. Sorry bout that Brits and Fern, never interested me, too much like ours I guess.

Don't think the Tea Party would go over well here. We get the occasional odd ball extremist pop up among the Libs but they are just shuffled quietly to a corner and vanish from the Party's pre-selection process next round of elections.

I'm glad we can talk about our different types of Government if only to reassure ourselves that we aren't the only ones afflicted with dubious at best politicians. It's kind of comforting somehow.
 
We, I think, are trying to understand everybody's different systems...it saves confusion, because your Liberals are not the same as ours!

I certainly can't be bothered to argue over it! But I bet the US want our NHS! Free at the point of delivery!

Yes, I bet, we have Medicare that covers us much the same for Drs and hospital, but we have to pay an income tax levy to cover it. The US don't like paying taxes and then wonder why they don't have some of the 'freebies' we enjoy. No free lunches.
 
Awww, had to luv Bill. He was great entertainment value, plus he was the quintessential politician. He did that sooooo well. Still does. No idea how good or bad he was as POTUS from the local viewpoint, but internationally he was a hoot. Kinda liked the guy. But then I kinda like Hilary too, just because she's good at doing politics and seems to have kept a grasp of reality in dealing with Bill's exploits. She handled that well. Impressed me anyway.
Don't think I share her political views at all, just admire her personal hutzpah.
 
Well if I was an American I`d be a republican for sure... just like you CeeCee and Falcon... well supposedly your still the same CeeCee,, well you have heard our politics from our aussie posters no need for me to say any more.. I have my views but I keep them to myself ..I remember that forum your talking about is it the same one I think it is..lol I once was told to keep my views to myself and worry about my own country and leave their country alone. in other words don`t make any comments lol so I haven`t well I try not too ..and I must say too I met Bill when he was out in this country..he was ever so nice, gave me a hug and all .. but that was before I knew about his sneaky affairs lol..
 


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