Students Can Opt Out Of Tests Now A Days-With Retribution

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Students can opt of some standardized testing now a days(I wish I had that option decades ago). Apparently opting out is a dirty little secret no one is supposed to know or talk about.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ry-upset-by-schools-reaction/?#038;#038;#038;

This is much more honest way for students not to make a mockery of a standardized non grade affecting test. When I was young and didn't want to take a test, was bored, tired or disinterested I would play games with the standardized tests including choosing the same letter choice or see what cool patterns I could make with different letter choices.

Still think a lot of these tests come down to money and not education.
 

So we can continue our slow decline to the stupidest country in the developed world..

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QuickSilver said:
So we can continue our slow decline to the stupidest country in the developed world..

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So forcing these students to take these tests that they are already scoring poorly on helps by?

How about not kow-towing to a lot of these 'tests'. I hope this gives incentive for more people home school or go to private schools. When it gets to the point where I regularly see stories of seeing teachers and school officials cheating or rescoring tests something is horribly wrong. Decades ago I never heard stories of cheating, maybe they did I don't know but if test scores are that bad something is not being taught besides academic competence.
 

QuickSilver said:
Don't know... We used to be number one... now look.. You tell me.
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PART of the reason we used to be number one is that many of the countries that have surpassed us were third world or recovering from World War II. Now that they have their act together maybe, in academic testing anyway that is the natural order of things since the playing field was leveled.

Also the US education system wants a cookie cutter system which easy for the system & teacher but does not benefit the students. The US tends to lack in science and math because they have been stopped for decades from forcing students to take some of the math and science that is a minimum requirement in many of these countries. Too many are written off as a liberal arts or vocational students too early in their pre college education(they are over tracked). This makes for lazy teachers and students since those who are naturally talented take those subjects.

Also the last several decades have seen the largest employers/companies/downsize so why would a student think about harder math and science if they see no future with it. The value of numbers and sciences needs to relayed to students not pursuing a science career in high school. No one can predict the future so student should take just enough that if they have to take a math or science course at work or years out of high school they shouldn't look at it as this strange pain in the butt thing.

Then you get to these standardized tests(if I recall most mandatory tests I had were from late grade school through early junior high) I don't recall the 11th and 12th grade tests many schools mandate now. Test for this and that. But this is why a base/standard curriculum is needed more than ever. Some say common core I say basic math and science. History, social studies, etc has gotten so biased and fought over that the basics have been lost in a high school education. The only way to improve writing is getting students to read and write about what they read or know about while constantly working on vocabulary.

*Does that chart/study have a date or source?
 
At least we're not as dumb as Australia. :playful:

Ever since the shift from real achievement to "self esteem" we've seen test scores go down. That and the PC modifications to such standardized testing as the Stanford-Binet are the culprits.
 
Apparently some feel American teachers are mediocre in that they learn to teach the subject but never really learn the subject itself.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgeleef/2013/10/24/a-key-reason-why-american-students-do-poorly/

This falls in line with what I experienced never having good math teachers or professors until college because they could trouble shoot a student and problem to the point where and why a student was getting it wrong. In jr high & high school they mostly went back a chapter, gave extra problems with little or no information on what was going wrong.
 

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