Study Says Covid-19 Has No Natural Ancestor And Was Created by Chinese Scientists.

Sunny said:
The "lie" being referred to was invented by Rand Paul, the super right-wing Senator from Kentucky, who obviously has it in for Dr. Fauci. Rand Paul is notorious for this kind of stuff; the truth is a concept far from the world he lives in. "Facts" exist only to bolster his own political fortunes.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rand-paul-dr-fauci-lied-congress-china-virus-research
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Sorry but Rand Paul is just one of a number of people who found that Fauci lied. The fact that he flip-flopped so much suggests he is either a ribald liar, political hack or a blithering idiot. It's only hard for Fauci-fans to grasp this concept.
 

JonDouglas said:
Sorry but Rand Paul is just one of a number of people who found that Fauci lied. The fact that he flip-flopped so much suggests he is either a ribald liar, political hack or a blithering idiot. It's only hard for Fauci-fans to grasp this concept.
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There is no proof of your assertion, only politically motivated opinion pieces. Only those seeking the truth will grasp this concept.
 
Nathan said:
There is no proof of your assertion, only politically motivated opinion pieces. Only those seeking the truth will grasp this concept.
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LOL, there you go again, trying to label people as political. There's an old saying, "Physician heal thyself." Good luck with that.
 

Nathan said:
Yes, only blithering idiots would buy into Rand's mindless rantings.
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I am guessing they have these in your size. To some he's the patron saint of "stay home and double-mask up."

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No idea if this is true or not-and I am not a fan of the Daily Mail-but when Covid first came to light China was quite desperate to get foreigners in the Wuhan area out of the country.Always been suspicious of that.
And I have always been suspicious of just how quickly it spread around the planet.
I’ve always suspected this virus did not occur naturally.If this report can be proven I would be delighted.
Edit...this story has been picked up by several British newspapers including the broadsheets.So it may have some traction.
 
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I have always liked Dr Fauci however I have also lost some confidence in what he says, but here's why, he may know ahead of time about certain aspects of this virus and the vaccines, maybe not 100% positive but he knows the direction that maybe a certain mutation, or an effect may bring about. But if its a negative outcome, he is not allowed to openly express that to the public, his hands are tied by higher ups. That old "lets not cause panic yet"

He is human also, humans make mistakes large and small. I'm sure the man has lost many sleepless nights worrying about this virus, about how to curb it, lessens its effects etc.

Is he making money from the vaccines? Maybe so, but I doubt he is rubbing his hands together in glee about it, instead I think he wringing his hands in sorrow over lives lost. Just my opinion.
 
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@Becky1951, Thank you for your thoughtful, balanced comments. As with any human, Dr. Fauci has his faults. Evidently there are those who have a specific agenda for painting Dr. Fauci in as negative a manner as possible.

At the conclusion of this Covid-19 pandemic, Dr. Fauci will go his way, we will all go in our own directions, and the forces of darkness will always be looking for the next opportunity.
 
Pepper said:
Are you also apologizing for removing your original post here and substituting it? Gosh, I hate when that happens.
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Oh, it's you again. Surely you have something better to do than interrupt two old farts having a Fauci fight. Go away and let us battle to accessorizing death.
 
JonDouglas said:
Oh, it's you again. Surely you have something better to do than interrupt two old farts having a Fauci fight. Go away and let us battle to accessorizing death.
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I want to apologize for that last remark concerning the edit. It was mean, I didn't have to say it, and I'm sorry.
 
Pepper said:
I want to apologize for that last remark concerning the edit. It was mean, I didn't have to say it, and I'm sorry.
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Apology accepted but only if you either stay off the Fauci accessory battlefield or find us something better to fight about/with.
 
And the Blithering Award goes to JonDouglas! Congrats, JD!

And the next award, the Sci-Fi prize, goes to the creative gentleman who revealed to us the truth that children are being kidnapped and sent to Mars to be trained as child sex slaves, requiring NASA to respond (managing to keep a straight face) that this is not true, there are no human beings on Mars at all.

https://nypost.com/2017/06/30/nasa-clarifies-we-dont-have-child-sex-slaves-on-mars/
 
Sunny said:
And the Blithering Award goes to JonDouglas! Congrats, JD!

And the next award, the Sci-Fi prize, goes to the creative gentleman who revealed to us the truth that children are being kidnapped and sent to Mars to be trained as child sex slaves, requiring NASA to respond (managing to keep a straight face) that this is not true, there are no human beings on Mars at all.

https://nypost.com/2017/06/30/nasa-clarifies-we-dont-have-child-sex-slaves-on-mars/
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LOL, running low on things to do, something of substance to post or people to insult?
 
Interesting article entitled Death Toll Exceeds a Million in Chinese Vaccine-Reliant Latin America. Intro snippet below.

In a statement released on May 21, the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) said that as of May 21, nearly 89 percent of deaths in Latin America and the Caribbean occurred in Brazil (44.3 percent), Mexico (22.1 percent), Colombia (8.3 percent), Argentina (7.3 percent) and Peru (6.7 percent). Three percent of the deaths were concentrated in Central America and one percent in the Caribbean.​
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As of May 31, Brazil had more than 462,000 deaths attributed to the epidemic, the second highest death toll in the world after the United States. India, with more than 329,000 deaths, ranks second in the world, followed by Mexico with more than 223,000 deaths.​
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Currently, the PAHO has delivered more than 12 million doses of vaccines procured through the World Health Organization’s COVID-19 Vaccines Global Access initiative to Latin America and the Caribbean, with an additional 770,000 doses being shipped to these areas.​
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According to the data of the PAHO, several Latin American countries, including Chile, El Salvador, Brazil, and Uruguay, rely almost entirely on vaccines produced in China.​

More at source.
 
Paco Dennis said:

Daily Mail​

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  • Overall, we rate Daily Mail Right Biased and Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor information sourcing.
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Daily Mail is a mixed bag. In addition to tabloid celebrity trash, they are often the first to break legitimate, factual news.

Saying again. ...It's not the source, it's verifiable content. It's intellectually lazy to wholeheartedly embrace or reject a source. Analyze each article, compare with other sources and look for kernels of truth in today's polarized media.
 
Newsweek: How Amateur Sleuths Broke the Wuhan Lab Story and Embarrassed the Media

For most of last year, the idea that the coronavirus pandemic could have been triggered by a laboratory accident in Wuhan, China, was largely dismissed as a racist conspiracy theory of the alt-right. The Washington Post in early 2020 accused Senator Tom Cotton of "fanning the embers of a conspiracy theory that has been repeatedly debunked by experts." CNN jumped in with "How to debunk coronavirus conspiracy theories and misinformation from friends and family." Most other mainstream outlets, from The New York Times ("fringe theory") to NPR ("Scientists debunk lab accident theory"), were equally dismissive. (Newsweek was an exception, reporting in April 2020 that the WIV was involved in gain-of-function research and might have been the site of a lab leak; Mother Jones, Business Insider, the NY Post and FOX News were also exceptions.) But in the last week or so, the story has burst into the public discourse. President Joe Biden has demanded an investigation by U.S. intelligence. And the mainstream media, in an astonishing about-face, is treating the possibility with deadly seriousness.​
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The reason for the sudden shift in attitudes is clear: over the weeks and months of the pandemic, the pileup of circumstantial evidence pointing to the Wuhan lab kept growing—until it became too substantial to ignore. The people responsible for uncovering this evidence are not journalists or spies or scientists. They are a group of amateur sleuths, with few resources except curiosity and a willingness to spend days combing the internet for clues. Throughout the pandemic, about two dozen or so correspondents, many anonymous, working independently from many different countries, have uncovered obscure documents, pieced together the information, and explained it all in long threads on Twitter—in a kind of open-source, collective brainstorming session that was part forensic science, part citizen journalism, and entirely new.​
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Well, darn. Those pesky amateurs are at it again, mucking up the bureaucrats' best BS strategy; however, I don't think the media is embarassed. They did what they were told.. Speaking of strategy, word on the street is that the administration is currently working on an exit strategy for certain individuals. Under the bus with dignity and honor?
 
Another voice heard from - WSJ: The Science Suggests a Wuhan Lab Leak. Below is the gist of the article.

But the most compelling reason to favor the lab leak hypothesis is firmly based in science. In particular, consider the genetic fingerprint of CoV-2, the novel coronavirus responsible for the disease Covid-19. ​
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You'd have to think the powers-at-be (i.e., Fauci and the CDC) would have known about the genetic footprint. If not, they're incompetent. If so, they were most likely trying to cover something up by pushing the bat cave theory. If someone has a better explanation, let's hear it.

Edit Update: Someone sent me a link to this video, which makes a reasonable attempt to discuss this issue in some detail, including the topic of genetic fingerprinting.

 
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Is the United states responsible for Covid 19?
The united states funded 'gain of function' research in the wuhan lab because it was too dangerous to do on home soil.
President Obama banned 'Gain of function 'research in 2014.
Fauci restarted it 2017, it lead to the lab modifying bat viruses so that they could spread to humans, hence the term 'gain of function'.

Vanity Fair has published a major expose on this subject, there is a lot of evidence now.
It is going to get ugly.
 

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