Surgeon catches cancer from patient in first of it's kind case

The 2013 review added: 'The low frequency and very variable stage of cancers mean that definitive risk calculations are impossible.'

However, the authors continued, the data is 'highly likely to underestimate the true incidence.'

Using the limited data available, authors of the 2013 report found cancers known to have been transmitted from donor to recipient on at least one occasion include, breast cancer, colon cancer, liver cancer, lung cancer, melanoma, ovarian cancer, prostate cancer and renal cancer.
This is strange. But it needs to be proved. What about giving a blood transfusion from a leukemia patient to a person who wants to commit suicide? If the suicidal one gets leukemia also, the scientists might consider that transmission is possible. A win-win situation for science and the suicidal one. I am serious.
 

This is strange. But it needs to be proved. What about giving a blood transfusion from a leukemia patient to a person who wants to commit suicide? If the suicidal one gets leukemia also, the scientists might consider that transmission is possible. A win-win situation for science and the suicidal one. I am serious.
we're talking about the same disse being caught by someone else through an open wound... Leukemia and siced are not the same disease...,for astart suicide isn't even a disease, it's an action...
 
This is not the first time the subject of contagious cancer has been raised. Also, some dementias are con

we're talking about the same disse being caught by someone else through an open wound... Leukemia and siced are not the same disease...,for astart suicide isn't even a disease, it's an action...
No Holly, it is the possibility of contagion. If a surgeon who operates a cancer patient gets the cancer through transmission of open wounds, it is more than likely that cancer cells from a blood cancer patient can transmiss by blood transfusion. If not, it is not proven.
 

No Holly, it is the possibility of contagion. If a surgeon who operates a cancer patient gets the cancer through transmission of open wounds, it is more than likely that cancer cells from a blood cancer patient can transmiss by blood transfusion. If not, it is not proven.
ok...don't argue with me, I have simply reposted the report here... go and look for it yourself..argue with the experts.. *jeez*
 
ok...don't argue with me, I have simply reposted the report here... go and look for it yourself..argue with the experts.. *jeez*
That's okay. I am not a physician. But I've read for decades that cancer is not transmissible. It simply must be proved. And my suggestion would be a possibility, although I concede that it might be unethical. But the forced Covid vaccinations in some countries were unethical too, but nobody cared.
 
Well once again, you all believe the white coats or the trillion dollar cancer researchers, funded by the pharma industry.

Cancer was non existent (in minute/small numbers 75 years ago. Cancer is self inflicted. Poor diet, poor health, poor aerobic and anaerobic ability creates it. As well endless research has said it can be caused by external factors as per the NIH article...https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4734938/

These basic assumptions are:

Cancer is triggered by an emotional conflict shock, in combination with negative biological factors, such as accumulations of chemical and microbial toxins.

Conventional cancer therapies do not address these underlying conditions, and this explains why they have not been shown to be successful.

Tumors are not the cancer, only a symptom of it and relatively harmless. Instead, most cancer mortality is due to the activity of the ‘cancer microbe’.

The decisive factor influencing the ultimate outcome is our expectation.

A key aspect in the development and progression of cancer is the inability of cancer cells to produce energy aerobically by oxidizing food. Instead, glucose is anaerobically converted into lactic acid. The more cancer cells have lost the ability to use oxygen, the more malignant they are and vice versa. This gives us the opportunity to make cancer cells less malignant, and tumors dormant, or regressing them by normalizing the oxidative energy metabolism.

The three main factors causing a deterioration of aerobic energy production in specific parts of the body are food allergies, chemical toxins (e.g. pesticides and heavy metals) and endotoxins. Endotoxins are produced by pathogenic microbes, especially the so-called cancer microbe, which has been isolated from malignant tumours but is absent from benign tumors. In addition, growth hormones produced by the cancer microbe strongly stimulate cell division.

Furthermore, there is commonly a deterioration in the lipid (fat-related) composition of the cell walls that allows toxins to enter the cells, and prevents waste residue from being removed. The main cause of this deterioration is the habitual consumption of heated or oxidized fats, and a deficiency of omega-3 fatty acids as in fish oils and linseed oil.

The combination of these factors provides the biological basis for creating autoimmune diseases and malignant tumors. Which disease develops, and in which part of the body, depends on additional factors, and especially on the nature of any emotional shock, as demonstrated by Dr Hamer. The spread of malignant cancer is further promoted by a weak immune system and chronic inflammations.

Toxins, for instance, can be removed with a variety of cleansing and detoxification procedures, suitable foods and supplements help to improve the cellular energy production, and unheated fats strengthen the cell walls. A high intake of protein-digesting enzymes (proteases) helps to break down and eliminate tumors.

You can increase your vitality by living in unpolluted natural surroundings, being outside as much as possible, using high-vitality raw food, good sleep, breathing exercises, and guided imagery.

Human cancers commonly have a strong emotional component as shown in The New Medicine. In addition to experiencing the after-effects of emotional shock, cancer sufferers do not sufficiently express their emotions and may even fail to be consciously aware of their emotional needs. This greatly suppresses the life-force, especially if there is an underlying feeling of fear, helplessness or hopelessness. Without much improvement on this level, long-term survival chances are not good.

A famous German Doctor PG Seeger has completed the worlds most cancer research experiments. No one else, no university, no doctor even comes close to this day.

His statements on cancer after years and years, plus 1000's of experiments states clearly that;
-The virulence of cancer cells depends on the nutritional status of the host.

The German cancer researcher P.G. Seeger demonstrated in thousands of experiments that the virulence of cancer cells depends on the nutritional status of the host. Another interesting study found that viruses breeding in hosts that are deficient in protective nutrients, such as selenium or vitamin E, tend to mutate and change from benign into very virulent and lethal forms. With sufficient levels of these nutrients someone was immune against the benign form of the virus but not against the mutated form that came from a deficient host.
Most of the influenza epidemics that periodically sweep the world with new virulent strains originate in selenium deficient parts of China. Furthermore, the African HIV epidemic appears to have emerged in northern Zaire were many people are selenium deficient. The lesson from this is that poor nutrition breeds deadly viruses.

People in Western society are rarely healthy. Real health - the perfect functioning of all parts of body and mind - is so rare that people mistake the temporary absence of disease symptoms for health. Formerly, people suffered mainly from violent, but short infectious diseases; now they are afflicted with chronic degenerative diseases for a lifetime.

The main factors causing widespread health degeneration are as follows:

As a result of this metabolic weakness and the overuse of unsuitable food, toxins and metabolic residues accumulate in the body. Toxins (toxic waste products from our chemicalized food) accumulate mainly in the fat tissue. Metabolic residues consist of protein debris, mucus, fatty sludge and organic acids.

PROTEIN DEBRIS accumulates when we eat more protein than we metabolize. Small protein fragments clog up the basement membrane through which nutrients move into cells and waste is being removed. Also tiny blood capillaries and lymph channels become congested, contributing to a wide range of degenerative diseases.

MUCUS: Originates from the lactose (milk sugar) in dairy products, from gluten (in wheat products), refined carbohydrates, egg white, molds and food allergens. Mucus has a special affinity to mucous membranes, causing catarrh, ear and sinus problems, respiratory diseases and malabsorption of food.

FATTY SLUDGE: Mainly formed from oxidized cholesterol and polyunsaturated fatty acids, hydrogenated fats and trans-fatty acids but also by the interaction of chlorinated water with vegetable oils or body oils. It leads to poor circulation, senility and heart problems by clogging the blood vessels and congesting the lymph system.

ORGANIC ACIDS: General overacidity contributes to the accumulation of organic acids in the tissues and induce inflammations and mineral deficiencies. Overacidity results from insufficient cellular oxidation and by the formation of lactic acid after eating sweet food or food to which we are sensitive or allergic.

INFECTIONS

Wastes accumulate wherever the blood circulation slows down whether because of emotional blocks, injuries, or insufficient use of muscles.


Up to 30 per cent of the volume of cells in elderly people may be filled with waste material, usually called 'old-age pigments'. This is comparable to 30 per cent of a city or a household being filled with refuse dumps. Just as dumps become infested with rodents and insects, the waste accumulations in the body provide favorable breeding-grounds for microbes and parasites.

Infections are healing efforts of the body designed to destroy any foreign invaders in addition to reducing the heavy load of toxic and obstructive residues (mucus) accumulated in the body. The use of drugs in fighting these infections prevents this cleansing action and reduces our vitality still further, while the body's immune system - its ability to defend itself against foreign invaders - is simultaneously damaged.

If the body is still reasonably strong, it fights these invaders and simultaneously reduces the load of stored wastes. This is experienced as an acute (sudden and severe) infection, often in the form of a cold or fever. However, as the body becomes weaker and the amount of stored wastes increases the body does not fight any more. It will be content with limiting the invasion to a certain part of the body and chronic (low-key but long-lasting) infection results.

Finally, the immune system becomes too weak to limit the chronic invasion and it becomes more generalized as in autoimmune diseases, cancer and leukemia. However, it should be understood that this 'invasion' does not necessarily occur from the outside. Especially in the case of cancer, it is more an 'uprising of germs' created by the disintegration of diseased body cells - similar to a revolution spreading in a country with dissatisfied inhabitants. This is the so-called cancer microbe, a fungus-related pleomorphic organism also active in most autoimmune diseases and AIDS.

FOOD ADDICTIONS & ALLERGIES

Parallel health deterioration, closely linked to the weakening of the immune system, takes place with the development of addictions and allergies. These are extremely widespread in our society.

Whenever the body is confronted with a difficult food it enters a state of stress. The glandular system is induced to pour adrenal hormones into the bloodstream and this may be felt as an uplifting stimulation. Eventually, the body begins to crave this stimulation and this leads to an addiction to that particular food. In our society, these food cravings develop mainly for sweet and fried foods, bread, dairy products and red meats.

After many years of using addictive food the glandular system is markedly weakened and stronger stimulants are required. You then become addicted to alcohol, coffee, tea, tobacco or various drugs. Eventually, even these will not achieve the desired effect or only for shorter and shorter periods.

The body becomes chronically fatigued and disease symptoms begin to surface evermore forcefully. Some symptoms can be linked directly to incompletely digested foods that are absorbed through a weak intestinal wall this is then called a food allergy. Disease symptoms develop selectively in parts of the body with hereditary defects or in those weakened by subsequent misuse or injured by accidents.

As many have said on here and other forums posts...if you eat healthy, exercise, take supplements, stay focused on keeping the mind and body strong, a healthy body can overcome even the most debilitating things!​
 
Then the US surgeon general has this to say..........
"Alcohol is the third-leading preventable cause of cancer in the US, the Surgeon General’s office said, after tobacco and obesity. It noted the link between alcohol consumption and cancer risk is well-established for at least seven types of cancer: breast, colorectum, esophagus, liver, mouth, throat and voice box. And the risk remains regardless of what type of alcohol is consumed, and increases with greater consumption.

Increasingly, evidence has mounted against alcohol consumption because of its health risks, negating a decades-long perception that some alcohol – especially red wine – could benefit health.

Still, nuances persist: A report in December from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine concluded that moderate drinking – two drinks a day or fewer for men and one for women – may be associated with lower risks of cardiovascular disease. It also found moderate drinking was associated with a higher risk of certain types of cancer."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/03/health/alcohol-cancer-surgeon-generals-advisory/index.html

We had a friend, sweet man when sober a raving maniac when drunk, died of a fast moving cancer just as his parents did and they were drunks too.
 
We in a lot of trouble when kids realize 70 years away isn't all that far.
Time seems to speed up after one graduates. Being in constant motion &
time flies! It always seemed to drag, waiting for the final bell each school day.

Some seemed to get sick a lot more than others. Being sick thru the holidays was a bummer !
Maybe sanding the calluses off O our feet could help?

Ham & O foot calluses dust sammiches. ... :ROFLMAO::unsure: ...
 
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Dementias?... how so..please tell.... I had no idea

Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, same as Lewey-body dementia? (related to Mad Cow or wrongly folded proteins) can be transmitted through meat, medical procedures. It's rampant in our forests, they say both animal and plant life, also the soil, are contaminated. And Alzheimer's and other dementias are becoming more and more suspect. For those interested this subject should be thoroughly researched.
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Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, same as Lewey-body dementia? (related to Mad Cow or wrongly folded proteins) can be transmitted through meat, medical procedures. It's rampant in our forests, they say both animal and plant life, also the soil, are contaminated. And Alzheimer's and other dementias are becoming more and more suspect. For those interested this subject should be thoroughly researched.
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I had no idea that it could be transmitted from person to person. I have studied alzheimers for several years .. and never come across that.. so this is very interesting to me..
I have certainly heard of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease ... I had no idea that it was the same as lewey-body dementia... :unsure:
 
If people really care for their immune systems and keep them healthy, this need never happen because the cancer cells could not replicate in a body with a healthy immune system.
 
I've actually wondered about this. If a cancer cell from Joe gets into Bob's body, why would it not continue to grow? It seems like all the necessary ingredients would still be there.
A friend of mine said on her father's death his corneas were donated to another patient. But her father died of cancer of the lungs, could the cancer be transferred to that patient?
 
I had no idea that it could be transmitted from person to person. I have studied alzheimers for several years .. and never come across that.. so this is very interesting to me..
I have certainly heard of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease ... I had no idea that it was the same as lewey-body dementia... :unsure:
No Holly, I don't know that they are the same, but they are certainly related.
 
A friend of mine said on her father's death his corneas were donated to another patient. But her father died of cancer of the lungs, could the cancer be transferred to that patient?
the surgeon in this story was physically handling the tumour of the patient and he had an open wound on his hand .... unless the corneas were cancerous, I can't see how they could have affected the recipient
 
A friend of mine said on her father's death his corneas were donated to another patient. But her father died of cancer of the lungs, could the cancer be transferred to that patient?
This is not my post. How did my avatar get on here? lt's the second time that has happend. ldont want to take credit for some else,s thoughts.
 
I've actually wondered about this. If a cancer cell from Joe gets into Bob's body, why would it not continue to grow? It seems like all the necessary ingredients would still be there.
That sounds logical, right? It's exactly how researchers grow certain cancers in mice.

This surgeon's hospital needs to figure out asap why the ca cells were not 100% contained by the surgical team.

I understand about the open wound; that's a separate issue. Obviously, the surgeon didn't rub the tumor into the wound.
 

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