Suspect arrested for murders of 4 Idaho college students.

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I had been feeling that either the police were either inept or they were keeping pertinent information from the public. Glad to see it was the latter. But I still find it strange that the other occupants of the house were not harmed @Lewkat and now, why he asked if they arrested anyone else. The police chief sounded confident when reporting that he acted alone. I also wonder if his parents suspected he was the killer because he showed up at their home, probably shortly after the murders and I don't think the semester was over yet. He probably made some excuse as to why he was visiting for so long.
@SeniorBen I thought his face looked familiar; now I know why.
@WhatInThe Yeah, I saw a news report that said he's not fighting extradition because his lawyer wants him back so he can prove he's innocent and be exonerated.
 
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OneEyedDiva said:
I had been feeling that either the police were either inept or they were keeping pertinent information from the public. Glad to see it was the latter. But I still find it strange that the other occupants of the house were not harmed @Lewkat and now, why he asked if they arrested anyone else. The police chief sounded confident when reporting that he acted alone. I also wonder if his parents suspected he was the killer because he showed up at their home, probably shortly after the murders and I don't think the semester was over yet. He probably made some excuse as to why he was visiting for so long.
@SeniorBen I thought his face looked familiar; now I know why.
@WhatInThe Yeah, I saw a news report that said he's not fighting extradition because his lawyer wants him back so he can prove he's innocent and be exonerated.
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Just from a news story I read about 30 min ago on AP, it appears that he *did* complete the semester, and that his father had flown into WA from PA to drive back with him, cross country.

We're just going to have to wait for a while, seems like.
 

The man accused of the horrific slayings of four University of Idaho students was allegedly stalking them in the weeks leading up to the murders and wore gloves in public places after the killings.

Bryan Kohberger, 28, was fastidious about not leaving his fingerprints behind after the murders, even wearing gloves when he entered a grocery store, according to a friend of one of the police officers assigned to follow him there.

'He's not stupid and has been very careful,' the anonymous source said.

While Kohberger was under surveillance in Pennsylvania, according to the source, police witnessed him appearing to try and avoid leaving any more DNA or fingerprints behind by taking protective measures in public.

'A good friend of ours was one of the cops who has been following him the last couple days he,' the source explained of their connection to the surveillance on Kohberger in Pennsylvania.

'He followed him into a Giant (local grocery store) and wore gloves the entire time.'

They also allege that the prime suspect was stalking his victims ahead of the murders - with their cell phone locations matching up on several occasions.

'Not sure if they ever interacted - but his cell phone pings followed their every move for weeks.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-went-teaching-University-Idaho-murders.html

 
Sawfish said:
Just from a news story I read about 30 min ago on AP, it appears that he *did* complete the semester, and that his father had flown into WA from PA to drive back with him, cross country.

We're just going to have to wait for a while, seems like.
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Oh okay. Thank you. I hadn't seen that. Yes, pieces of the story are coming in bit by bit.
@Pepper..that is a reasonable explanation. I couldn't tell that by pictures of the house.
@hollydolly Well he was a criminology student who probably thought his "research project" prepared him on "How To Get Away With Murder".
https://www.thedailybeast.com/idaho...erest-reportedly-arrested-in-student-slayings
 
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What are the laws in the USA about suspects and the media? It seems this guy has already been decided as the culprit before he has even gone to trial? I hope it is him and they haven't just arrested the "oddball" because he seems, well, odd.
 
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The most trouble I'm having with this story is how one person alone could commit this horrible crime without anyone making sounds or alerting others. Some of the students had defensive wounds and fought back... so why weren't they screaming and alerting others? And two of them were a couple so I guess we can assume they were in the same bed... how could one person kill both of them plus two other people close-by without any sound or alerting? It's just bizarre and I sincerely hope justice is served.
 
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I saw that too. Makes one wonder because for one person to take out 4 with minimal struggle. Some witness ex residents etc say you can hear what goes on. But if the accomplishes had to subdue the victims wouldn't they leave bruises, marks discoverable in the autopsies?

What was the suspect's business in Pennsylvania again?
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That was my thought, too.
 
CallMeKate said:
The most trouble I'm having with this story is how one person alone could commit this horrible crime without anyone making sounds or alerting others. Some of the students had defensive wounds and fought back... so why weren't they screaming and alerting others? And two of them were a couple so I guess we can assume they were in the same bed... how could one person kill both of them plus two other people close-by without any sound or alerting? It's just bizarre and I sincerely hope justice is served.
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Good questions!!
 
Trish said:
What are the laws in the USA about suspects and the media? It seems this guy has already been decided as the culprit before he has even gone to trial? I hope it is him and they haven't just arrested the "oddball" because he seems, well, odd.
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What's going on here (US popular opinion), I think, is that the victims seemed to be young, full of life, and enjoying living, and in a single hour were extinguished like candleflames.

Many people emotionally attach to this (me, too, in a way--my daughter graduated three years ago after having gone to a school a continent away) and very many want a sort of sense of normalcy, probaby what they'd see as "justice", restored.

So they are all over this guy prematurely.

Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. We'll see.
 
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That's really the only thing that makes sense, I guess. Maybe it will all come out when he gets back to Idaho and they're allowed to release some of the information that's locked now.
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This idea of being in a near-drugged slumber takes a bit more thought...

At least the two main girls, K & M, were awake and calling on cel phones until about 30 min or so before the earliest supposed time of death. And while it's true they had been drinking from about 10 PM to 1:30 AM, they did walk three blocks to a food cart, got some food, and rode home in a sort of Uber-like arrangement the university has for plastered kids, arriving home at approx 1:45 AM.

Then they called until about 2:56 or so, if we can trust sources, and time of death was between 3-4 AM.

Yep, they could have been asleep, all right, but at least some of the alcohol had worn off, and they might not have been asleep all that long.

A lot to think about, and we've got flimsy source info at this point.
 
JaniceM said:
Just because someone "has 'the right'" to do something does not always mean it "is right" to do it.
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I agree, but that horse has been out of the gate for a long time...
Pepper said:
Screwing with the free press is the worst thing that can happen, IMO
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Absolutely! And expecting discretion in releasing a popular story just isn't realistic today. Too many news outlets, too much competition to expect that.
 
JaniceM said:
Unfortunately that's too often true.
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Hah!

I can remember when my wife and I were getting to know each other, getting comfortable with each other--obviously before we were married!--and we saw something on TV and she turned to me and said, kinda as if it was a crystaline revelation:

"People here have no shame."

She's of Japanese descent, from Hawaii, so not traditionally Japanese, but still she adheres to individual responsibility and personal reputation much more than is currently common, and especially on the mainland. So to her, dodging responsibility and damaging one's own reputation is, well, *shameful*.

Yeah, well me, too. She was dead center on the money.
 
Pepper said:
Screwing with the free press is the worst thing that can happen, IMO
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It is what's happening now, with a vengeance.

And growing up, did you ever think you'd *ever* see a serious debate in the US over whether or not free speech was good?

Boy, not me.

You've really got to be fast on your feet to make it thru these last few years, it looks like.
 
JaniceM said:
they should not have the right to present errors, leave out relevant information, etc.
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You are right of course, however I don't see a way to control that... When I see a lot of it in a media outlet I try to avoid the outlet all together, that may be our only real means of limiting it.
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News has become part of the "circuses" part of the ol' "bread and circuses" thingie...
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Yes it has. However we have a long history of this kind of thing. 100+ years ago it was called yellow journalism. Some of the things newspapers printed in the 1800s were awful, even by today's standards.
 

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