"Talk To Your Doctor About...."

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I know these drug ads are old news, & I know drug companies have to make back their investment in drug studies & advertising before making a profit, but am I the only one who gets a chuckle at them? "Talk to your doctor about adding _______ to the drugs you're already taking."

You're a patient - not a doctor, with little or no medical education.

Your doctor spent at least 4 years in medical school & passed exams before becoming a doctor & being qualified to prescribe drugs.

So...why would you have to "talk to him" about prescribing more drugs? Wouldn't he already know what drugs you need?

I just had a copper re-pipe in my house. I didn't give the plumbers any directions....they all seemed to know what to do.
I didn't instruct the electrician, either.
 

This is said in ads wherever ads are placed. It is something the manufacture of these little and these big pills and other medications hope you will asked your doctor about since there are competing medications for most illness, the drug manufacturer hope you will remember theirs and say, "Hey, doc, what bout this so and so medication? Is it really as good as they say?"
or something similar. Or they will say, 'Talk to your doctor." Reminding doctors and patients the doctor is the final authority (Makes the doctor feel good. Most often the doctor will know little of any drug until the pharma sales rep introducess it to the doctorand tells him how it works. Pharma companies work hand in glove with doctors to keep them informed since much of this stuff was not around when our doctors were in school.
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Ugh, one of my pet peeves. I was just yelling at the TV a couple of hours ago... the stupid commercial said something like, "tell your doctor if you have an infection" and I was hollering, "my doctor should be telling ME that I have an infection!!" Stupid pharmaceuticals. :mad: It's not like they don't already have us by the short hairs.
 

drifter said:
This is said in ads wherever ads are placed. It is something the manufacture of these little and these big pills and other medications hope you will asked your doctor about since there are competing medications for most illness, the drug manufacturer hope you will remember theirs and say, "Hey, doc, what bout this so and so medication? Is it really as good as they say?"
or something similar. Or they will say, 'Talk to your doctor." Reminding doctors and patients the doctor is the final authority (Makes the doctor feel good. Most often the doctor will know little of any drug until the pharma sales rep introducess it to the doctorand tells him how it works. Pharma companies work hand in glove with doctors to keep them informed since much of this stuff was not around when our doctors were in school.
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If Pharma companies work hand in glove with doctors to keep them informed, shouldn't THEY be the ones to talk to doctors about new drugs? Why would a patient need to even mention it? Pretty silly, in my view. It's almost like they're trying to get patients to ASK for more drugs.
 
@win231
They do talk to doctors and doctors have usually a number of choices of medications he can
prescribe. That's how doctors get their information about new drugs through
Pharma sales reps. But the Pharma companies advertise them on tv so you will also know
about them and ask your doctor about them. Maybe you are on another drug but the ad tells
you this one is better, you might just asked about it. There are all kinds of goodies exchanged
between doctors and Pharma companies for prescribing their drugs. Pharma sales reps are
absolutely essential to a doctor and doctors prescribing Parma's medications are essential to
Pharmas. It's like you scratch my back; I'll scratch yours. Manufacturers must have a delivery
system and people who make it work well must be rewarded. Sorry I wasn't clear.
 
applecruncher said:
Also, it might be a CYA thing....just in case...drug companies can say "we advise people to talk to their doctors". 🤨
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Nothing wrong with telling patients to "talk to their doctors." That means "Give your doctor the information he needs so he can help you." What's wrong (and ridiculous) is "Talk to your doctor about adding drugs to the drugs you're already taking." That shouldn't be anyone's decision but the doctor's.
 
I hate those drug ads, and I agree that it's wrong to use patients to sell their pharmaceuticals. The doctor should tell you which drug you need and prescribe it for you.....but those new drugs on the TV ads, with a new name every few days out there, the doctor likely knows little if anything about that drug. All he has is the booklet that the drug pusher left in his office. Years back I remember one of those pharma salesmen coming in while I was still talking to the doctor, luckily (for him) I was dressed. :rolleyes:
 
What cracks me up is the long list of possible side effects (including death!) that they are legally required to list with each ad. If you really listen to those ads, why would anyone in their right mind want to take those medications?
 
"Tell your doctor if you have high blood pressure" hell that is the first thing the nurse checks before the doctor comes into the room!!!
 
Ken N Tx said:
"Tell your doctor if you have high blood pressure" hell that is the first thing the nurse checks before the doctor comes into the room!!!
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Steven Tyler (big rock star - "Aerosmith") was a guest on Dr. Oz. He said, "Doctors are worse than street pushers. I was at my doctor for my regular visit. My doctor KNOWS that I just got out of drug rehab & trying to stay clean & he says to me: "Hey, Steve...are ya sleeping OK? Because I can give you something to help you sleep." My own doctor is pushing drugs on me, knowing I'm a drug addict just out of rehab.

Of course Dr. Oz pretends to be shocked & says, "This really infuriates me."
 
"Talk to your doc", that's in the early stages of a drug's life. In the later stage it's "talk to your lawyer". We've all heard something like this, " If you or a loved one has taken the drug, X, you may be entitled to compensation." Maybe, it would be better to skip all the experimentation, the marketing and distribution of drugs, and just go right to compensation, it would save billions.
 
I tell my doctor what course of action I am thinking of pursuing for any given malady that may be darkening my days. I then get his ideas about the same. Usually, I'm better informed about a specific condition in my life, than my GP. If you trust that your doctor is an expert on every illness out there, good luck to you.

I was the one who told my (then) GP about the natural statin, Red Yeast Rice. He actually had his nurse call me, the next day, to tell me that he'll never doubt me, again. He had done his own research. He was my GP for thirty years, until Obamacare stopped that. I think about going back to him, now that I've got Medicare, but the system I'm in now is computerized, and very streamlined. I don't want to give it up.

You should never trust that your doctor knows more than you about specific issues in your life. Yeah, the internet has lots of misinformation on it. You bet! However, if you do your own research, carefully, you should, at least, go into your doctor's appointment armed with a fairly decent amount of knowledge about what's ailing you.

I have caught my present doctor giving me bad info, recommending a bad drug. He's cool when I challenge him. If your doctor is not, get a new doctor!
 
I was a R.N., so I dealt with doctors most of my life. I would say that they are a honorable lot- there's always one SOB. But what I find happening is that doctors are no longer in control of the practice of medicine. It's insurance companies, who hold all the power. If an insurance company says it won't pay for X, unless you own Facebook, you aren't going to get X. When I go to a MD's office, the tests they do, and the info they want is totally what the latest directive of insurance companies require. When was the last time, you had a heart to heart with your insurance company to talk about......................
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I was a R.N., so I dealt with doctors most of my life. I would say that they are a honorable lot- there's always one SOB. But what I find happening is that doctors are no longer in control of the practice of medicine. It's insurance companies, who hold all the power. If an insurance company says it won't pay for X, unless you own Facebook, you aren't going to get X. When I go to a MD's office, the tests they do, and the info they want is totally what the latest directive of insurance companies require. When was the last time, you had a heart to heart with your insurance company to talk about......................
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If a doctor is "honorable," he will do what is best for the patient, regardless of an insurance company's suggestions.
Concluding that doctors are an "Honorable lot with one SOB" would require extensive research & access to information that we don't have.
Pushing drugs on celebrities is not honorable & most doctors who do this are not prosecuted.
Michael Jackson had no trouble finding a group of doctors who sold him all kinds of dangerous drugs. Only the doctor that actually killed him was prosecuted; the others got away with it.
And one honorable cosmetic surgeon put it best during an interview: "Any reputable doctor with any sense of right & wrong would NEVER continue to do procedures on someone's face who already had too many procedures...regardless of the patient's request. But the temptation of a patient with lots of money to spend is obviously too much to resist."
 

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