The CDC recommends relaxing of covid rules and regulations.

I am still waiting on the answer to my original questions.
“Why does the vaccine work for some people but not others?” ‘Why did vaccinated people die?”
And most of all, “Why didn’t they keep working on a vaccine that was even more effective. but safer than the initial vaccine?” People were still getting sick and dying, so why didn’t the pharmaceutical companies keep working on a better vaccine?
 
Moon Rat said:
I am still waiting on the answer to my original questions.
“Why does the vaccine work for some people but not others?” ‘Why did vaccinated people die?”
And most of all, “Why didn’t they keep working on a vaccine that was even more effective. but safer than the initial vaccine?” People were still getting sick and dying, so why didn’t the pharmaceutical companies keep working on a better vaccine?
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The notion that "The vaccine works for some people but not others" is a faulty one. When people who are vaccinated don't get Covid, or get Covid but recover (like most do), they will often credit the vaccine. We've been seeing that with flu shots for years. I've never had a Covid or Flu vaccine. My only flu was 40 years ago. If I did believe in flu shots & got one every year, I might credit them for not getting the flu, but I'd be mistaken; my immunity came from getting the flu once. I may have had Covid in the past & passed it off as a cold & recovered.

They don't need to spend more money working on a safer or more-effective vaccine because they're profiting enough with the ones they're using now. That's why the exaggeration about the mortality & the fear campaign were so important.
 

They don't need to spend more money working on a safer or more-effective vaccine because they're profiting enough with the ones they're using now. That's why the exaggeration about the mortality & the fear campaign were so important.

That is mostly true. But at the very least, the vaccine has proven to be semi-effective. Even though drug companies have made billions from the vaccine, why wouldn't they want a safe and 98% proven effective vaccine like polio? The 30-40% that hasn't taken the jab would be more likely to do so if they knew the results would be more effective, like the Polio Vaccine. The Feds should have made the drug companies stay on the vaccine to make a better effective dose. Not just to produce one that is "good enough."

I missed the polio era, but still was vaccinated for it when I started school because my district had not yet lifted the no need to do so mandate as of that time. I believe some school districts today still require polio protection for new students, but there is NO federal mandate.

I have had 2 friends die from covid. My one friend's wife, who was not even allowed to be with her husband while he was dying was a mess for several months after his death. They told her that the patient in most cases actually suffocates and that has to be a slow agonizing death.
 
Moon Rat said:
They don't need to spend more money working on a safer or more-effective vaccine because they're profiting enough with the ones they're using now. That's why the exaggeration about the mortality & the fear campaign were so important.

That is mostly true. But at the very least, the vaccine has proven to be semi-effective. Even though drug companies have made billions from the vaccine, why wouldn't they want a safe and 98% proven effective vaccine like polio? The 30-40% that hasn't taken the jab would be more likely to do so if they knew the results would be more effective, like the Polio Vaccine. The Feds should have made the drug companies stay on the vaccine to make a better effective dose. Not just to produce one that is "good enough."

I missed the polio era, but still was vaccinated for it when I started school because my district had not yet lifted the no need to do so mandate as of that time. I believe some school districts today still require polio protection for new students, but there is NO federal mandate.

I have had 2 friends die from covid. My one friend's wife, who was not even allowed to be with her husband while he was dying was a mess for several months after his death. They told her that the patient in most cases actually suffocates and that has to be a slow agonizing death.
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A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.
Of course, those facts have been "editorialized" to sell Covid vaccines.
 
It was an interesting experience to watch. For 2 years it seems that everyone became some sort of human sheep. They were told what to do, how to do it and what would happen if they didn't. Where I live there are still a lot of these sheep still around. They haven't all gone away. They believe and live by what the TV tells them to do. They are totally unable to think for themselves. Sad, really!
 
Packerjohn said:
It was an interesting experience to watch. For 2 years it seems that everyone became some sort of human sheep. They were told what to do, how to do it and what would happen if they didn't. Where I live there are still a lot of these sheep still around. They haven't all gone away. They believe and live by what the TV tells them to do. They are totally unable to think for themselves. Sad, really!
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not only sad but also terrifying to me that so many did not question the many inconsistencies and half truths they were using....... What was a real eye opener was the CEO of Pfizer ........
saying out loud that he and many others were "actually shocked by how many people refused to play along" and asked pointed questions that they did not have answers to.
 
Most people who died, were already sick, so, like the flu, COVID exacerbated the problems. The politicians wanted the cause listed as COVID, and the health community complied. Others, who were not sick, developed blood clots and shot emboli either to their heart, lungs or brain. That was and still is being studied.
 
Lewkat said:
The politicians wanted the cause listed as COVID, and the health community complied.
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The politicians made it an incentive to list as COVID and the medical community used billing codes so everything was covid to cash in....

We LOST the ability to really study this disease and really have reliable data for future ....
we created anxiety and mistrust as well as in many cases permanent division among some ...........
people who felt the need and somehow thought they had the right to DEMAND others do exactly as told ............
I know several people whose BS has now been debunked but I will never forget how they treated others with different view points and will never be friendly with that specific type again...........

it is a shame that so many tried to capture "emergency funds " before the TRUTH..... and DAMN the consequences all under the pretense of caring
 
So I did not see this in the news at all. Bill Gates admits covid vaccines not very effective, covid primarily affects the elderly... like the flu.

Educated people knew this after it hit Italy. Doctors and scientists knew this very early on. But for the sake of profits and politics evil people did not respect the real science and did what they did, and blocked the truth.

At the end he double talks and says we should have been on alert quicker.

I'll try to find the whole interview.

https://www.kusi.com/bill-gates-say...-the-flu-and-that-the-vaccines-are-imperfect/
 
win231 said:
Some people who haven't accomplished much use this opportunity to show that "I'm better 'n you 'cuz I'm vaccinated." :)
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What? Let me think about this, let me throughly digest it, let me reach an understanding of this statement. Yup. I got it. In all of my 76 years of life I have heard many a nutty statement; but this is the nuttiest. It takes the cake. 🎂. There you go @win231, you are a winner 😂
 
Aneeda72 said:
What? Let me think about this, let me throughly digest it, let me reach an understanding of this statement. Yup. I got it. In all of my 76 years of life I have heard many a nutty statement; but this is the nuttiest. It takes the cake. 🎂. There you go @win231, you are a winner 😂
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Congratulations. It only took you 3 months to "throughly digest it?" Who's the nut?
 
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win231 said:
Congratulations. It only took you 3 months to "throughly digest it?" Who's the nut?
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You 😂. I’ve haven’t even been back to the forum for three months. But I see you are still obsessed about vaccines. Have another slice 🎂.
 
There is an uptick in Covid here, especially among children, ever since school commenced in September.
So many cases that serious elective surgeries are being postponed.

Masking protocols need to be put into place again, particularly on transit and in schools.
 
Pinky said:
There is an uptick in Covid here, especially among children, ever since school commenced in September.
So many cases that serious elective surgeries are being postponed.

Masking protocols need to be put into place again, particularly on transit and in schools.
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I actually think hand washing is really important to both not getting Covid or the flu.
 
Today's paper reports a big upsurge in both covid and flu. They are begging people to get boosters for both. Otherwise, it will be a pretty miserable, grief-stricken winter.

One tentative bright spot: a new flu vaccine may be on the horizon (being tested now on animals) that protects against all variants of flu. So we may soon be rid of the nuisance of annual shots; it won't matter if the virus keeps mutating.
 
We both went for the 3rd Covid shot, today .. I also got the flu shot for seniors. Now I have 2 sore arms,
but, I think I'll live.

The place we went to, is in a shopping mall. It was full of patients, many seniors. Decorations abounded,
and there was Caribbean music playing .. perhaps supplied by the Caribbean nurses who were singing
along to it. It was a rather pleasant and jovial experience! Upbeat, and got a lollipop for behaving :)
 
I got the first 3 shots, have not had 4th yet. May or may not get it. I did catch Covid....while in rehab center after my hip surgery. Go figure
 
Jeni said:
There will be still some push back upset that the CDC is recognizing the inevitable ......
the fear machine did a big job on many and simply put have created division and hard feelings between some people that is not going away after they decide to try and wind down the fear machine.
I think the long term damage will plague us for many years
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absolutely---- yet there are the koolaid drinkers.....next
 

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