The Derek Chauvin Trial
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Many cities are now preparing for civil unrest as we await the verdict which should be by 5 pm EST. It would be nice if justice is served but I won't hold my breath waiting for it on this one. After all we have seen over the years with african-americans being killed by police and those police not being held accountable it would be amazing to see justice served yet I truly doubt it will happen.
Murrmurr
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I'm pretty certain he'll be judged guilty. Prosecutors presented a really good case.
AnnieA
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I hope he is found guilty and given a harsh sentence but she needs to shut up because she's fanning racism in people who don't know many if any black people personally. Having always lived in Mississippi side by side with black friends, teachers, coworkers and increasingly family members, I know firsthand that most black people do not act like her. I worry that she's being seen as representative of African Americans by other ethnic groups who don't have much contact with black people.
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AnnieA
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Hoping and praying so.
AnnieA
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I feel so sorry for bystanders who couldn't help.
hollydolly
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This has been my thoughts throughout.. here in the UK you could attempt to pull those cops off if you thought they were killing someone... but in the USA you would likely be killed...
I can't even imagine how frustrated those bystanders were
StarSong
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I pray you are wrong. This was beyond egregious, the prosecutions case was formidable, and the defense team had little to say.
StarSong
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Sorry to say, peaceful vigils and solemn prayer-ins haven't moved the ball forward one inch for American Blacks. If Chauvin is let off the hook, Black Americans will see that verdict as exactly what it is - abject racism.
To add to my comment Chauvin, as an experienced police officer never should have used the knee to the neck and I do believe he knew better. If justice is served he will be found guilty of the highest offense of murder they have there and serve a very lengthy term in prison. I do hope justice will prevail yet I have my doubts.
StarSong
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I'm not in favor of civil disobedience, but I recognize and understand fury over obvious patterns of horrific injustice.
That said, I have confidence that Chauvin will be found guilty.
helenbacque
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I think he was guilty of second degree murder. I think he was putting on a show for his fellow officers "See, this is how we do it, boys"'
However, I doubt that is what jury comes back with
However, I doubt that is what jury comes back with
I hope my initial post was wrong, too, and have added to it more of my thoughts. I guess I am clouded by what I've seen in America all my life, unfortunately. May justice prevail and
Chauvin be found guilty with a very long prison term.
hollydolly
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Demonstrators are already crowding outside the court....
hollydolly
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Just been announced that sentencing will not happen for quite a few months..if he's found gulity
StarSong
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Good point. Sentencing is rarely decided immediately, but if he's found guilty he'll be remanded into custody.
I think it is wrong for any political person at any level on either side of the aisle to make comments that can be viewed as violent. If violence occurs then that person usually says that it not what I meant and takes no responsibility. People hurt or business ruined didn't have anything to do with the decisions made. Many times business destroyed are owner operated just trying to make a living. And then who want to rebuild in that environment.
hollydolly
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I bloody hope so..it would be a travesty if he was to continue to remain on Bail
StarSong
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It was a travesty that he was permitted to be out on bail from the get-go. I've gotten whiplash from one shock after another with this case.
Yes but each of the charges he could be found guilty of has an estimation of the amount of time that he might be given. I think the state, too, has added some "aggravating" terms too which could add to the estimated sentence.
hollydolly
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yes but the sentencing on each or all will take months.. they've just stated that on Court TV
hollydolly
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..and me..I think most of the world has too...
Murrmurr
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I live in a predominantly Black Neighborhood. I'm mixed-race - my parents were Italian and Irish and my grandmother was Black. 90% of the people in the apartments where I live are Black and only a couple of them are mixed-race. I'd estimate that 1/3 of my neighbors here share Maxine Water's opinions and attitude, and they view me as White. They don't talk to me, don't reciprocate when I say Hi, how ya doin'? or whatever, and they'll block the walkway so I have to step off it when I pass, if they happen to be there. It's unfortunate, but I know where it's coming from and I don't let it get to me at all; just is what it is.
But here's the thing, only about half of the kids of that 1/3 share their parents' anti-White attitude. I shoot hoops and play soccer with them, and they even come over to hang out with my grandkids when they're here. And we all have a good time.
I think this is very encouraging.
Yes, I know that's the way it always goes but like I said we can still estimate even if it's not the same thing as a judge doing it.