The dilemma of alcohol abuse in free modern era societies

VaughanJB said:
"Good, but my gout is really playing up." This guy was in his 40's, and we'd just ordered our first beers. Think about that.
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it is a myth that alcohol is always the trigger for gout - many people have different triggers or no identifiable triggers
 

January said:
it is a myth that alcohol is always the trigger for gout - many people have different triggers or no identifiable triggers
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Perhaps. But I suspect, in this case, lifestyle was likely a cause. :D

I mean, I'll be frank here, I had nights out with those guys that I barely remember.

Deals were made.

But damn.
 
Drinking alcoholic beverages can be a pleasant experience. One can associate it with good times, good friends, relaxation. As the frequency increases at some point it is no longer a choice but a need. Some recognize that tendency before it becomes a problem. Others do not.
 

January said:
I agree.

Certainly support people who are alcoholics and promote responsible alcohol usage - but alcohol in moderation is not a risk and most people drink sensibly and no reason for that to be demonised.

If anyone wants to be a teetotaller that is perfectly fine - but so is sensible in moderation drinking
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For me alcohol in moderation is no problem. Smoking is another story. I quit many decades ago but know I can't have just one.
 
sounds like the difference between Heaven and Earth?? - I have worked in the alcohol and drug treatments for years - weak and compulsive minds is what it's all about - I have nurtured some hopelessly dependent persons
 
Warrigal said:
Don't mock people who find strength through prayer. My son is addicted to alcohol but is too stiff necked to surrender to any power higher than himself. He will die an alcoholic.
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well god bless ya sister - you may be finding some relief from pray but doesn't sound like it's helpin ya son? - let us know when it worked heh?
 
Babs2u said:
Drinking alcoholic beverages can be a pleasant experience. One can associate it with good times, good friends, relaxation. As the frequency increases at some point it is no longer a choice but a need. Some recognize that tendency before it becomes a problem. Others do not.
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Spot on Babs. It begins with social drinking but can become problematic for people who have an addictive personality. Before beginning to drink no-one knows whether or not they have such a personality although sometimes it is obvious in close relatives.
 

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