The level of awareness vary by individual

Mr. Ed

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I believe people’s level of awareness varies by individual. Some people report seeing ghosts or an unexplainable awareness of information unseen, or past life.

I don’t understand how these things manifest themselves to the few, but I believe it true.
 

I wonder how my life would be if I had a gift as mentioned in this thread? If could see what is not seeabble would I be labeled a madman? How do gifted people cope with being different?

Skeptics and religious organizations condemn people who do not fit the designated mold. The mold as described in the Bible. In my opinion, the Bible holds too much power and authority over people who drink and feed themselves with its contents..

Religion encourages biblical study and participation in religious activities to be immersed in the spirit. No wonder church people are blind. All they see are things they surround themselves with. Fear and control are set Into place to ensure the future and growth of religion.
 
Heard a news report that modern evangelicals have no use for churches, the Bible, and who knows, probably Jesus himself, especially if he starts with that love one another crap. Their preference is to see themselves as a group targeted for discrimination. Can't further comment on the context on which I heard this.........
 
Heard a news report that modern evangelicals have no use for churches, the Bible, and who knows, probably Jesus himself, especially if he starts with that love one another crap. Their preference is to see themselves as a group targeted for discrimination. Can't further comment on the context on which I heard this.........
Many so called Christians endlessly profess their 'love' of Jesus, but don't embrace His teachings.
 
Heard a news report that modern evangelicals have no use for churches, the Bible, and who knows, probably Jesus himself, especially if he starts with that love one another crap. Their preference is to see themselves as a group targeted for discrimination. Can't further comment on the context on which I heard this.........
Starting after an event here in the U.S. about 7-1/2 years ago, I've read a lot of articles about the same thing. There've been more than a few articles about how evangelical churches here in the U.S. have been firing their pastors (or reverends or whatever they're called) due to the pastors not being "warlike/conservative" enough.

I recall one pastor relating how this happened; more and more church members had been coming to him with concerns about how someone had said something to them along the lines of about how Jesus said to turn the other cheek. "Pastor, Jesus never said a stupid thing like that, did he?!" And when the pastor said, "Actually Jesus did say that, Matthew 5:38-40,", he'd get a ferocious scowl and then a few days later, be told he was fired.

I saw a news story about 6-1/2 years ago with an interviewer asking a protestor here in the U.S. why he was using Jesus as an excuse for the violence he was advocating for and she quoted the above thing and some other things Jesus said. The guy stared at her for a moment and then said, "Oh, we don't worship that Jesus! We worship the bada$$ Jesus!"
 
It is no wonder Christian vigilantes are surfacing now in accordance with the current political atmosphere. As elections draw near, expect more violence and disruption of the status quo.
Right or wrong there will be no stopping it until one overcomes the other, the pickup the pieces to start again.
I don’t believe in Jesus, however it angers me these trouble makers are using faith as a means for violence. There is no oversight what people say and believe, someone could claim a preposterous notion that came from god. Who will doubt god spoke to them? This is why I dislike religion,
 
Heard a news report that modern evangelicals have no use for churches, the Bible, and who knows, probably Jesus himself, especially if he starts with that love one another crap. Their preference is to see themselves as a group targeted for discrimination. Can't further comment on the context on which I heard this.........

Don't believe everything you hear on the news. I'm surrounded by evangelicals in the Bible Belt who are by no means persecuted here, go to church, read their bibles and then go out into communities to give time, energy and money in charitable endeavors.
 
Don't believe everything you hear on the news. I'm surrounded by evangelicals in the Bible Belt who are by no means persecuted here, go to church, read their bibles and then go out into communities to give time, energy and money in charitable endeavors.
Yes, I know, and glad to hear it. I was discussing a phenomenon that I can't go further into, and so could not explain it's context.
 
In my view, awareness is often a misleading term, because we can be aware of a stimulus, but it's how we interpret that stimulus that can make a world of difference. So when we say we are aware of certain things we encounter, it's really more about the interpretation, and unfortunately that's the weak link.

Most likely the perception (awareness) of the stimulus isn't all that different between individuals, but if we include interpretation into awareness, then it turns into a real circus. To say one person is more aware than another just means that they have drawn more connections or associations, but those associations and connections may not be worth a fake nickel.
 
In my view, awareness is often a misleading term, because we can be aware of a stimulus, but it's how we interpret that stimulus that can make a world of difference. So when we say we are aware of certain things we encounter, it's really more about the interpretation, and unfortunately that's the weak link.

Most likely the perception (awareness) of the stimulus isn't all that different between individuals, but if we include interpretation into awareness, then it turns into a real circus. To say one person is more aware than another just means that they have drawn more connections or associations, but those associations and connections may not be worth a fake nickel.
"fake" is redundant here...
 
I believe people’s level of awareness varies by individual. Some people report seeing ghosts or an unexplainable awareness of information unseen, or past life.

I don’t understand how these things manifest themselves to the few, but I believe it true.
Check out Skinwalker Ranch. Lots of unexplainable events investigated by lots of experts.
 
"fake" is redundant here...
When I Jokingly said that in the phrase "fake nickel" that "fake" was redundant, I was just pointing out that the nickel is basically worthless (due to bad government decisions, inflation, etc.). Fifty years ago, a nickel bought a cup of coffee. Today it buys you 1/5 oz of coffee at Starbucks. What a value!

I was hoping that humor would win out, but I see that you have a penchant for the pedantic and precise.
So, humor aside - you're right, a fake nickel is worth less that a real nickel. You win.

Also, I'm not up to speed on all the latest studies of connections and associations in psychology but I am surprised that their values are now measured in nickels.

P.S. I have no idea what you are trying to convey with the $20 reference. Maybe the Beverly Hills rate?
 
When I Jokingly said that in the phrase "fake nickel" that "fake" was redundant, I was just pointing out that the nickel is basically worthless (due to bad government decisions, inflation, etc.). Fifty years ago, a nickel bought a cup of coffee. Today it buys you 1/5 oz of coffee at Starbucks. What a value!

I was hoping that humor would win out, but I see that you have a penchant for the pedantic and precise.
So, humor aside - you're right, a fake nickel is worth less that a real nickel. You win.

Also, I'm not up to speed on all the latest studies of connections and associations in psychology but I am surprised that their values are now measured in nickels.

P.S. I have no idea what you are trying to convey with the $20 reference. Maybe the Beverly Hills rate?
Well, you made no mention that you were joking, so I assumed you were trying to be some sort of grammar police. It seems now you are clarifying what you meant, so I won't bother with explaining the $20 reference to you, or the phrasing. It's water under the bridge (And please don't take that literally either).
 
Heard a news report that modern evangelicals have no use for churches, the Bible, and who knows, probably Jesus himself, especially if he starts with that love one another crap. Their preference is to see themselves as a group targeted for discrimination. Can't further comment on the context on which I heard this.........

Many have decided to pursue a Christian nation naively assuming that would mean what they have in mind.
 
I think people submit things to shows like Paranormal Caught on Camera who fake things or have good computer editing skills.

I don't know. My niece apparently would see a boy in their house when she was young.
 
Not meaning to politicize this thread but @MarkD said it well. Many people don’t know what want and what they think they want is not the way they picture things. What if we had a Christian nation? May I remind you of the Christian Crusades or the Normalization of Native Americans, African Americans, Asian populations. All of these cultures had one thing in common, they were not white Christian people, so White American Christians set out to persecute and change their native heritage to be acceptable in god’s eyes and in theirs.
Funny thing about missionaries, assuming they are called to serve in the mission field. Have missionaries ever considered they are not wanted in the field because they attempt Normalize cultures into something else but not as it is pictured according their views.

The false concept god will fix everything is short-sighted and narrow-minded. But suppose we lived in Christian nation, by doing so look

“The new survey finds that nearly 8 in 10 people who say the U.S. should be a Christian nation also say the Bible should have at least some influence on U.S. laws, including slightly more than half (54%) who say that when the Bible conflicts with the will of the people, the Bible should prevail,” researchers wrote.


More than 6 in 10 Christians (62%), including 81% of white evangelical Protestants, 65% of Black Protestants and 47% of Catholics, think the U.S. should be a Christian nation, compared to just 16% of non-Christians,

Republicans also are at least twice as likely as Democrats to say that America should be a Christian nation (67% vs. 29%) and that the Bible should have more influence over U.S. laws than the will of the people if they conflict (40% vs. 16%),” researchers wrote. “Sixty-three percent of Americans ages 65 and older say the United States should be a Christian nation, compared with 23% of those ages 18 to 29.”

There’s less of a gap between Christians and non-Christians and Republicans and Democrats on a separate question about whether America’s founders “originally intended” for the country to be a Christian nation. Sixty percent of U.S. adults believe that they did

After asking a series of yes-or-no questions about the country’s character, researchers had survey participants respond to an open-ended question about what the phrase “Christian nation” means to them.

Responses made it clear that Americans are not at all on the same page, according to Pew.

“Some people who say the U.S. should be a Christian nation are thinking about the religious makeup of the population; to them, a Christian nation is a country where most people are Christians. Others are simply envisioning a place where people treat each other well and have good morals,” researchers noted in the survey reported.

The most common response was something along the lines of a Christian nation being one that’s generally guided by “Christian beliefs and values.”

Only 18% of U.S. adults said a Christian nation has Christian-based laws and governance, and it was much more common for opponents of the Christian nation concept to share this definition than others, researchers said.

More than three-quarters of U.S. adults (77%) said these faith groups should not endorse political candidates. Two-thirds said churches and other houses of worship should keep out of political matters.

Most Americans (64%) also agree that the U.S. is not currently a Christian nation.

“A large majority of the public expresses some reservations about intermingling religion and government,” researchers wrote.

Pew’s survey comes amid widespread debate about religious freedom, including the Supreme Court’s approach to this right. More liberal Americans increasingly fear that Christians have an unfair advantage over others in the political realm, while conservatives often argue that people of faith are under attack.

The new report captures these tensions and shows that few Americans are happy with the status quo.

Pew found that majorities of all major faith groups — and 72% of U.S. adults overall — think “their side” has been losing more often than winning in the political realm over the past few years.

A Christian nation would become Totaltarian society where religion, specifically Christianity would be upheld as the main source for laws and punishment. If the nation adopts the Ten Commandments over the Consitution and Bill of Rights, imagine the consequences for sin? Punishment methods would revert back to Biblical proportents where public stoning, hanging and crosses would become the norm again.

People only want in a government what is pleasing to them. To suggest having a Christian nation is a false idea that romantically seems good and wholesome because you fail to recognize the whole picture and ramafications of a Christian nation. Wake up world.
 
Not meaning to politicize this thread but @MarkD said it well. Many people don’t know what want and what they think they want is not the way they picture things. What if we had a Christian nation? May I remind you of the Christian Crusades or the Normalization of Native Americans, African Americans, Asian populations. All of these cultures had one thing in common, they were not white Christian people, so White American Christians set out to persecute and change their native heritage to be acceptable in god’s eyes and in theirs.
Funny thing about missionaries, assuming they are called to serve in the mission field. Have missionaries ever considered they are not wanted in the field because they attempt Normalize cultures into something else but not as it is pictured according their views.

The false concept god will fix everything is short-sighted and narrow-minded. But suppose we lived in Christian nation, by doing so look

“The new survey finds that nearly 8 in 10 people who say the U.S. should be a Christian nation also say the Bible should have at least some influence on U.S. laws, including slightly more than half (54%) who say that when the Bible conflicts with the will of the people, the Bible should prevail,” researchers wrote.


More than 6 in 10 Christians (62%), including 81% of white evangelical Protestants, 65% of Black Protestants and 47% of Catholics, think the U.S. should be a Christian nation, compared to just 16% of non-Christians,

Republicans also are at least twice as likely as Democrats to say that America should be a Christian nation (67% vs. 29%) and that the Bible should have more influence over U.S. laws than the will of the people if they conflict (40% vs. 16%),” researchers wrote. “Sixty-three percent of Americans ages 65 and older say the United States should be a Christian nation, compared with 23% of those ages 18 to 29.”

There’s less of a gap between Christians and non-Christians and Republicans and Democrats on a separate question about whether America’s founders “originally intended” for the country to be a Christian nation. Sixty percent of U.S. adults believe that they did

After asking a series of yes-or-no questions about the country’s character, researchers had survey participants respond to an open-ended question about what the phrase “Christian nation” means to them.

Responses made it clear that Americans are not at all on the same page, according to Pew.

“Some people who say the U.S. should be a Christian nation are thinking about the religious makeup of the population; to them, a Christian nation is a country where most people are Christians. Others are simply envisioning a place where people treat each other well and have good morals,” researchers noted in the survey reported.

The most common response was something along the lines of a Christian nation being one that’s generally guided by “Christian beliefs and values.”

Only 18% of U.S. adults said a Christian nation has Christian-based laws and governance, and it was much more common for opponents of the Christian nation concept to share this definition than others, researchers said.

More than three-quarters of U.S. adults (77%) said these faith groups should not endorse political candidates. Two-thirds said churches and other houses of worship should keep out of political matters.

Most Americans (64%) also agree that the U.S. is not currently a Christian nation.

“A large majority of the public expresses some reservations about intermingling religion and government,” researchers wrote.

Pew’s survey comes amid widespread debate about religious freedom, including the Supreme Court’s approach to this right. More liberal Americans increasingly fear that Christians have an unfair advantage over others in the political realm, while conservatives often argue that people of faith are under attack.

The new report captures these tensions and shows that few Americans are happy with the status quo.

Pew found that majorities of all major faith groups — and 72% of U.S. adults overall — think “their side” has been losing more often than winning in the political realm over the past few years.

A Christian nation would become Totaltarian society where religion, specifically Christianity would be upheld as the main source for laws and punishment. If the nation adopts the Ten Commandments over the Consitution and Bill of Rights, imagine the consequences for sin? Punishment methods would revert back to Biblical proportents where public stoning, hanging and crosses would become the norm again.

People only want in a government what is pleasing to them. To suggest having a Christian nation is a false idea that romantically seems good and wholesome because you fail to recognize the whole picture and ramafications of a Christian nation. Wake up world.
Very true. And the Founders of the U.S., being students of history and therefore well aware of how many wars had religious causes, wisely put it front and center in the very First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution:

"Amendment I​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Get that? "No law." None. N - O - N- E. So that means no scripture of any religion, no explicit displays of any religion in any government offices. Displays in stores trying to sell stuff for the holidays? Okay by me; I don't give a sh*t what most stores do. But in official government offices? Enough already with the unconstitutional displays. Enough.
 

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