The Myth of Osteoporosis, Creating a "Disease" to Sell More Prescription Drugs

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Years ago I was urged by a doctor to get a bone scan and was diagnosed with "Osteopenia". They wanted me to increase my calcium supplemental intake and come back for another scan. Well, knowing that calcium can block arteries and cause strokes, I didn't increase it at all, in fact I stopped taking any calcium supplements. Instead I've been using vitamin D3, vitamin k2 and exercise for bone health. Interesting article here, we're not "diseased", we are just aging.

Full article here: http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/arb...nto-a-disease/


Osteoporosis Myth: The Dangers of High Bone Mineral Density

By Sayer Ji
GreenMedInfo.com

The present-day definitions of Osteopenia and Osteoporosis were arbitrarily conceived by the World Health Organization (WHO) in the early 90′s and then projected upon millions of women’s bodies seemingly in order to convince them they had a drug-treatable, though symptomless, disease.

Osteopenia (1992) and Osteoporosis (1994) were formally identified as skeletal diseases by the WHO as bone mineral densities (BMD) 1 and 2.5 standard deviations, respectively, below the peak bone mass of an average young adult Caucasian female, as measured by an x-ray device known as Dual energy X-ray absorptiometry.

This technical definition, now used widely around the world as the gold standard, is disturbingly inept, and as we shall see, likely conceals an agenda that has nothing to do with the promotion of health.

Deviant Standards: Aging Transformed Into a Disease

A ‘standard deviation’ is simply a quantity calculated to indicate the extent of deviation for a group as a whole, i.e. within any natural population there will be folks with higher and lower biological values, e.g. height, weight, bone mineral density, cholesterol levels.

The choice of an average young adult female (approximately 30-year old) at peak bone mass in the human lifecycle as the new standard of normality for all women 30 or older, was, of course, not only completely arbitrary but also highly illogical. After all, why should a 80-year old’s bones be defined as “abnormal” if they are less dense than a 30-year old’s?

Within the WHO’s new BMD definitions the aging process is redefined as a disease, and these definitions targeted women, much in the same way that menopause was once redefined as a “disease” that needed to be treated with synthetic hormone replacement (HRT) therapies; that is, before the whole house of cards collapsed with the realization that by “treating” menopause as a disease the medical establishment was causing far more harm than good, e.g. heart disease, stroke and cancer.

As if to fill the void left by the HRT debacle and the disillusionment of millions of women, the WHO’s new definitions resulted in the diagnosis, and subsequent labeling, of millions of healthy middle-aged and older women with what they were now being made to believe was another “health condition,” serious enough to justify the use of expensive and extremely dangerous bone drugs (and equally dangerous mega-doses of elemental calcium) in the pursuit of increasing bone density by any means necessary.

One thing that cannot be debated, as it is now a matter of history, is that this sudden transformation of healthy women, who suffered no symptoms of “low bone mineral density,” into an at-risk, treatment-appropriate group, served to generate billions of dollars of revenue for DXA device manufacturers, doctor visits, and drug prescriptions around the world.

 

above article is inaccurate at best and wrong in a couple of places. an 80 year old is only defined as low, if they are below the standard for an 80 year old.

parathyroid hormone is extremely efficient in calcium and phosphorous absorption, unless there is some type of cancer involved vit d3 doesn't do much, however there are 190 metabolites of d3 and some make thyroid more efficient. K2 is very important in bone density, but hard to get, but the most important ones are testosterone, thyroid, and the proper ratio of bio -identical hormones, which the author confuses with synthetics. Over 50,000 women dies last year alone because of low estradiol.
 

No Judi, because it's not that important to me, I wouldn't have gotten the first scan if I wasn't talked into it by the doctor. I avoid any x-rays and radiation whenever I can. My mother and my mother in law both suffered with broken hips in their old age. My mother in law took an oyster calcium supplement daily, and my mother didn't take any.
 
Rt3, I appreciate your opinion, but I know that you are involved with Cenegenics and a big fan of hormone therapy. I personally would not be interested in using hormones synthetic or not. Also, I have no problem with normal aging and the effect it has on ones body. Point is, bones in an elderly person would not be the same as a young person. It is not a disease that needs treatment.
 
opinion based on 30 years of pharmacist, Doctor of Pharmacy and 10 years in bio-identical hormones, (please don't confuse the two) licensed in 10 states, and 2 clinical licenses.
I'm not sure what not the disease needs treatment means. I worked in the non end of hormones until I saw the amazing things they could do. I am not writing this internet to specifically sway you one way or the other, nor do I represent any commercial interest, but simply to direct other readers and in a dialog manner give some foundation to some of the pros and cons. Over that period of time I have talked to literally thousands of people who have had their life turned around-- can you say that?
bones would not be the same in an elderly person compared to a younger person has no meaning. what ever the shape or condition of the bones are in-- doesn't mean one has to accept it. I don't mean to be mean or rude, --- but opinion untempered by fact is ignorance.
Have you ever asked someone who is on hormone therapy-- if they were willing to give it up?
aging is most specifically a disease that needs treatment, and the search and discovers will go on with you or without you.
 
No, lol, I can't say that I've talked to literally thousands of people who have turned their lives around. All I'm saying is that aging is a very natural thing that doesn't need a 'cure', unless of course you have the need to seek one. Let the "search and discovers" go on without me, it doesn't bother me at all, and I'm sorry if I upset you...didn't mean to, really.
 
Osteoporosis Drugs Doing More Harm Than Good

Here's more information. I didn't go for the second scan because I didn't want to subject myself to more radiation, also, regardless of the result, I didn't plan on taking any prescription drugs for bone loss...

Fosamax Linked to Serious Bone Problems

Fosamax, again a drug used to strengthen bones, is associated with so many detrimental bone side effects it boggles the mind.
Ironic is an understatement.

Even reports of thigh fractures are not new. ABC News recently reported that the Food and Drug Administration asked Merck (the maker of Fosamax) to “add information about the report of femur fractures” to the medications’ package insert back in 2008!
More than a year later, they finally did.

Not surprisingly, Merck also tried to hide the fact that Fosamax is causing jawbone death, a disease now known to oral surgeons as Bisphosphate-Related Osteonecrosis of the Jaw (BRONJ) or “Fossy Jaw” -- a nasty side effect of Fosamax and related drugs that essentially causes your jawbone to rot and decay.

Bisphosphate drugs have also been associated with:

  • Serious eye inflammation and possible blindness
  • Liver damage
  • Atrial fibrillation
  • Increased risk of ulcers
  • Esophageal cancer
  • Renal failure
  • Skin reactions
  • Hypocalcemia (blood calcium levels are too low)


How Osteoporosis Drugs Kill Your Bones


Bisphosphonate drugs like Fosamax, Actonel and Boniva, are problematic because they stay in your bone indefinitely and disrupt the normal bone regeneration process.

Healthy bones maintain their strength from a continual process of bone breakdown and bone rebuilding. Osteoclasts are the cells that break down your bone, and osteoblasts are the cells that rebuild it.

Fosamax and similar drugs poison your osteoclasts, permanently killing them, so the normal bone repair process is halted. Your bones will indeed get denser. However, denser bones are NOT stronger bones, which is the part they don’t tell you. In fact, eventually your bones become weaker and more prone to fracture.

Why?
Because bone is a dynamic structure that requires the removal of unhealthy bone and REPLACEMENT with new bone to stay strong. Fosamax does NOT build any new bone. It only kills the cells that break bone down, so your bone is not benefiting from its natural regenerative process.

For women who have been taking this drug for five or more years, their bones have literally lost the ability to regenerate, and this is why many be faced with more brittle bones and fractures.

SOURCE (full article)...http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...s-drug-implicated-in-thighbone-fractures.aspx

 
The health scares are really blatantly disgusting. My latest favorite is "Non-24" the circadian rhythm disorder.

It's funny TG, I've never heard of this disorder before, but since you mentioned it, last night I noticed a commercial on the radio last night for a pharmaceutical drug to treat it...https://www.hetlioz.com/?gclid=COeO8OPR-b0CFecWMgodp0QAHw . I wonder why people have to use this drug with harmful side effects, when they can just buy over-the-counter Melatonin, which has been safely used by many shift workers and travelers who have their rhythms out of whack. Soon Melatonin will probably be off the shelves, and an expensive prescription will be needed.
 
Of course, thanks to people like ol' Al Fleming we enjoy life-saving penicillin and more. But, one cannot deny the obvious and blatant money grubbing of the pharmacon cartel.
 
It's funny TG, I've never heard of this disorder before, but since you mentioned it, last night I noticed a commercial on the radio last night for a pharmaceutical drug to treat it...https://www.hetlioz.com/?gclid=COeO8OPR-b0CFecWMgodp0QAHw . I wonder why people have to use this drug with harmful side effects, when they can just buy over-the-counter Melatonin, which has been safely used by many shift workers and travelers who have their rhythms out of whack. Soon Melatonin will probably be off the shelves, and an expensive prescription will be needed.

Had been hearing for awhile on the radio while driving home after work. At first, there was no mention of what it was about; just to ask your doctor. Then, lately, they finally started mentioning the "wonderful" cure . . . with, now get THIS, the side effect of causing nightmares. Great. I can't sleep and now I get to enjoy nightmares instead while destroying my liver...
 
opinion based on 30 years of pharmacist, Doctor of Pharmacy and 10 years in bio-identical hormones,

rt3, I highly respect your education, career and experience and if I'm ever found on the ground near death please shoot me the juice. But would you not agree there is collusion within the medical fields to push chemicals down our throats?
 
(quote from SeaBreeze
Years ago I was urged by a doctor to get a bone scan and was diagnosed with "Osteopenia". They wanted me to increase my calcium supplemental intake and come back for another scan. Well, knowing that calcium can block arteries and cause strokes, I didn't increase it at all, in fact I stopped taking any calcium supplements. Instead I've been using vitamin D3, vitamin k2 and exercise for bone health. Interesting article here, we're not "diseased", we are just aging.)


I have osteoporosis and take calcium and vitamin D daily, also walk as often as I can. The bones in my lower back
are thinning and weak and my mother suffered from the same condition so I presume it is hereditary.

I had never heard that calcium can block arteries and cause strokes. Now I am afraid because having a stroke is one of my
worst fears. I am not afraid of being dead, but I am afraid of being half dead and having no quality of life.
 
Lets face it, we are all doing the best we can to remain healthy and enjoy living a life we view as full of quality. Just like an old car, our bodies after time, don't run as efficiently as before. We each have had different life experiences and make independent choices about the health care options offered by the medical community. Knowledge is absolutely a great thing to possess, for making the best decision available. But in the end those choices are personal and I respect each individual's decision to select what treatment, care, or lack thereof, that is best for themselves in any given situation.
 
Raw Reserve from Whole foods contains the highest amt. of k2 Ive found yet (reasonable cost.) butter and meat from GRASS fed cows contains the highest amts. also
vit. k2 is much better than vit. D for bone density.

Don't really know what you mean by collusion. You will have to define it. It your talking about Ricco act or racketeering, or controlling the vertical distribution the answer is no.
If your talking about having board meetings, talking with other pharmas and maximizing profits, I will say your definition is naïve and somewhat simple.
If you talking about destroying and raping the earth as bad as the energy companies, I can hear you, but they don't do that either.

the term osteo simply means bone, blast, clast , and porisis are simply conditions-- don't but so much into it.

the greatest medical advance yet made is called PCR or polymerase chain reactions. these allow the synthesis or organic materials with medicinal uses. You can't by any standard of any argument contend that synthetic insulins are not a boon to those in need.

During the synthetic phase of drug development (70 thru 90) it was thought that we could go into the lab, with knowledge about the physiology and construct drugs to help those folks who had serious needs. As the side effect profiles became more known, the restrictions of on drugs official use also grew. It is the pressure from the consumer that causes off label use not the medical field. this is particularly true of hormones, (HGH and test. especially).

Current research is showing Ca supplements to be less beneficial in bone density than previous thought
Current research is showing testosterone to be far more beneficial in bone density than previous, especially in women.

Calcium, magnesium, and, zinc are still a good supplement especially if you have leg cramps and headaches.

The calcium buffer system, and the ratio of that is the most important one in your body, due calcium channel ion activity and the role thyroid plays in it.
 
Don't confuse Vit. K and k2, Vit.K increases clotting time and is found in most folates containing vegtables.
 
1-to make a decision about one's health using the knowledge at hand is good
2-to make a decision contrary to a better decision is sad.
3-to have someone else make a decision based on number 2 is a tragedy
 
I agree that K2 is the preferred form of the vitamin to take, I've been using Nature's Plus organic whole food k2 (m7) dose is 120 mcg., gluten-free and vegan. I agree that Magnesium is very good for muscles and leg cramps, I use the supplement Mag Citrate and the Magnesium Oil for topical application for quick relief from cramps like charleyhorses.
 
All these are interesting.. I`d rather try to get all supplements from fresh foods rather than take vitamins and supplements.. but magnesium , zinc tablets I do take for zinc is a good immune system booster I take it when I get a head cold and it really helps.. magnesium is great I`ll have to find foods that are rich in them so I don`t have to take tablets I`d love to get off taking my blood pressure meds its got that hydrochlorothiazide.. which I know is a diuretic.. and I also know it makes the muscles in the legs weak .. one of the side effects of it is that plus tingling and numbing in the fingers.. my doc says it doesnt cause that but searching on the net says that so , ahh well ! I`ll keep looking to see what I can do . to go with out.. not game to just go cold turkey.. as the saying goes..but its great to have a place where you can discuss these sort of things.. thanks so much ..
 
Calcium and magnesium work together if you don't have a balance they won't work correctly. A calcium build in the arteries is caused by a lack of magnesium and not to much calcium. Most people in fact are calcium deficient but doctor in their misguided thinking when they see calcium build up in veins or as stones they want you to cut out calcium. Well all that calcium in the arteries and stones came from your bones and teeth and not what you ate. In fact you need more calcium to put back in your bones and teeth but it needs to be with the other co factors like magnesium, copper, and vitamin D.
 
I would agree with the idea of them (who is them anyway, lol) making things up to sell more drugs, or for whoever to make more money. On the other hand, I think growing old can be a "disease" in itself, our bodies are depleted because things, just wear out. So I believe there are "good" things we can put back to help with aging more comfortably. One is the gelatin thing I read about recently, but I am always looking for healthy ways to "put back" what is diminishing, not using drugs.

There are a lot of healthy ways to remedy illnesses, or aching bones etc. but I for one, in younger years, was too lazy to look into alternatives, it was way easier to pop a pill for something. It was easier than trying to find a preventative for something. I believe I am carrying a pacemaker around because of a drug called Seldane I took for about 2 years to remedy allergies. I couldn't prove it, I waited too long after the fact. I didn't even know Seldane had been taken off the shelves/banned, whatever, after I had already stopped taking it.

I always have to say though, that I do believe in good, conventional medicine, just not in a pill for everything.
 
All these are interesting.. I`d rather try to get all supplements from fresh foods rather than take vitamins and supplements.. but magnesium , zinc tablets I do take for zinc is a good immune system booster I take it when I get a head cold and it really helps.. magnesium is great I`ll have to find foods that are rich in them so I don`t have to take tablets I`d love to get off taking my blood pressure meds its got that hydrochlorothiazide.. which I know is a diuretic.. and I also know it makes the muscles in the legs weak .. one of the side effects of it is that plus tingling and numbing in the fingers.. my doc says it doesnt cause that but searching on the net says that so , ahh well ! I`ll keep looking to see what I can do . to go with out.. not game to just go cold turkey.. as the saying goes..but its great to have a place where you can discuss these sort of things.. thanks so much ..

Hi Rainee,

You and I are very much on the same page. I wanted to tell you about apple cider vinegar, but I am betting you know about it's help with colds/sinus infections? It worked miracles on me, and only a tablespoon in water.

I just liked what you had to say, there are going to be times when we "have" no choice but to take a drug/prescription, but meanwhile, we can be searching for those alternatives for ourselves, our GPs don't generally prescribe non-prescription things, although I have had a doctor do that.

I so wish health insurance covered chiropractors, and I can't think of the name of doctors that prescribe natural herbs or nutrients. I know we are up against it in that respect as well though, getting healthy things from gardens, just read a post on soil lately. We can't win for losing seems like. Denise
 


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