The Walking Dead, Am I Alone?

hmm. If there's going to be more of this in the second half, I won't be watching. I was into an hour of fun zombie entertainment with some fake guts. I'm not into watching a sociopath dominate through fear and inflict unthinkable torture.
 

Wait, the guy who was with Carol in the car when the Saviors stopped them and threatened them and Carol shot them, and she left him in the car, and he staggered away... was he the same guy who caught her up and was shooting her arms until Morgan shot him??? I'm still in the middle of it here so I don't know what happens.
 
Wrigley's said:
hmm. If there's going to be more of this in the second half, I won't be watching. I was into an hour of fun zombie entertainment with some fake guts. I'm not into watching a sociopath dominate through fear and inflict unthinkable torture.
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I know what you mean, I'm not liking what they've done with the show even though I realize it's as the comic is similarly written. Kirkman was saying they wanted to knock Rick back down shatter his confidence, that's what this was about. Really how many times do they need to show how easily Rick can unravel? There's nothing new in that theme to me that's just being sadistic toward that character and the fans, much worse so than the Negan nonsense. I already know how Negan ends in to a degree, so, I don't even care about his story anymore, but this what they're doing with Rick and torturing others I've had enough.

I peeked the comics to get an idea of negan's fate. Not that anything will be exact, I just wanted an idea how long he would have control over Rick's people.
 
Well lets all agree we knew the cliff hangar was coming. Not happy about it. What I really want to know is who are those two guys in the protective pads on horseback are? The one offered his hand in greeting to Morgan.
 
Stupid things people do in a apocalypse part infinity.

From a tactical standpoint stopping the RV surrounded by high ground even though hills not the greatest move because one is now fish in a barrel. It does provide some visual cover from a distance but my guess the enemy already know those roads for security reasons. Also when everybody got out of the RV a couple of people should've went to the rear of the RV to look for someone sneaking up the rear and give reserves for a forward firefight.

As far as who bit the dust for laughs and giggles I will say Rick. Negan already sent extorted prisoners back to kill the leader of the Jesus people. Negan asked for the leader right away but lectured the entire group. He also threatened removing Carl's eye and feeding it to Rick(would that be a maimed/dead Rick?). Tactically speaking a sudden loss of leadership can leave a group/organization rudderless yet compliant. Also throw in the the 'last day on earth' references it very well could be Rick. And of course revenge because Negan not emotionally but was selfishly/tactically upset about the loss men/soldiers(to be exploited later on?)

Carol and Morgan saved by guys in armor? Shiny armor at that.

The multiple High Noon standoffs-eh.
 
Holy Mother Of Pearl! Last night was something. Thought provoking, gut wrenching, and just darn right messy. I have to say one thing, I thought the acting of all our faves was abso-freaking-lootly amazing when they stepped into that lit ring of whistlers. The deer in the headlights look on all their faces and the sheer panic was intense!

And as for who met up with "Lucille" Wow it could play out anyway eh. First I would like to say, the producers are amazing, they follow the comic, yet they take some liberties. Glenn, he is slated to go. Carol, she was never meant to be in this for so long, things like this. Sooooooooooooooooo here is a few of my thoughts. If for the next few months the fan's out there "revolt" the producers can save face and kill off Aaron, remember he is not a huge fan fave, he is not a long timer with the group, he could be an easy fix to save face with the producers. However, if the producers really want to whip up a viewer frenzy they will kill off a "major". So with that being said, on talking dead, what's his name... producer said... they would justify what happened in the finally in next season. So if a major dies, it will be justified. Justified, hmmm do you think maybe one of our "major faves" has not been honest with us all along? If so who, and what are they all about, have they led this group down the Merry Path? Have we in viewer land all got attached to the bad guys? Remember in the past, there was a quote something like this about Ricks group "your are not the good guys". I mean really our faves are not good, they have killed a whole lot of people and for what reason? We have been lead to believe it has been for their own safety, and preservation, but is Rick's group out there for the greater good, or for their own selves? So person by person my thoughts. Glenn is due. But... if they keep Glenn he is part of a bonded pair/team, and if you have a pair/team, and you threaten of favor one, you generally get a better performance out of the others. So you would have 2 workers under you. So with the pair/team scenario, they would be smart to keep, Glenn and Maggie. Abe and the 2 gals (unless they throw him to the lions). Rick and Carl and Machone. This leaves Daryl, Eugene, and Aaron. They have no super bond to anyone else in the group, however they are strong able bodied males. So maybe they are kept. Maybe you kill the leader, Rick and they others comply. Maybe you kill the weakest by they way they look ? Maggie, Eugene or Carl?
Other thoughts, Why was Enid SO adamant to go along with the group? I don't trust her? She all but forced Maggie to eat those pickles, did Enid make her sick, is Enid a spy? Accomplice?
Am I the only one who did not quite understand the purpose of the "recipe" Eugene handed over to Rick? Did Eugene what the "bullet making recipe" to die with Rick (as in Eugene is the spy?) or did he want it to Live with Rick cause he knew he was going to die? To me that recipe seems very oddly out of place and significant.
Back to Bad Group Scenario, Morgan has never subscribed to the "Rick way", Carol is having a change of heart, Abe, was struggling with driving that motorhome last night as in, it looked like he was questioning Ricks decisions to press on. Aaron was wanting to shoot down that "librarian guy who was tossed over the bridge" Remember Aaron said I can try and shoot the chain and Rick said no? There have been a lot of members questioning the heartlessness of Rick Grimes. it makes me go Hmmmmmmmmmm
Just my thoughts
 
WhatInThe said:
Stupid things people do in a apocalypse part infinity.

From a tactical standpoint stopping the RV surrounded by high ground even though hills not the greatest move because one is now fish in a barrel. It does provide some visual cover from a distance but my guess the enemy already know those roads for security reasons. Also when everybody got out of the RV a couple of people should've went to the rear of the RV to look for someone sneaking up the rear and give reserves for a forward firefight.

As far as who bit the dust for laughs and giggles I will say Rick. Negan already sent extorted prisoners back to kill the leader of the Jesus people. Negan asked for the leader right away but lectured the entire group. He also threatened removing Carl's eye and feeding it to Rick(would that be a maimed/dead Rick?). Tactically speaking a sudden loss of leadership can leave a group/organization rudderless yet compliant. Also throw in the the 'last day on earth' references it very well could be Rick. And of course revenge because Negan not emotionally but was selfishly/tactically upset about the loss men/soldiers(to be exploited later on?)

Carol and Morgan saved by guys in armor? Shiny armor at that.

The multiple High Noon standoffs-eh.
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The guys they encountered are from another group called the kingdom. This other group of peopl dess up in midevile wear and I guess live that lifestyle.
 
Fan reaction seems mixed.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/‘w...sary-cliffhanger’/ar-BBrkBnS?ocid=ansmsnent11

I was disappointed although I must admit I watch the same night encores because waiting in baited breath for the first telecast isn't my priority with the TWD. I think fan comments that this was a ploy for ratings and advertising dollars are pretty accurate. I also found it no coincidence the 2 of the four guests on Talking Dead were show staff probably put there to explain themselves just in case.
 
Aw! I shouldn't have been surprised that we are left "cliffhanging" by our finger nails until...when- October?

So who "got it"? My guess is Carl. Killing Carl would send maximum ripples through Rick's world, which apparently is what Negan wants. Also, Carl(like the Governor) having lost an eye, appears[in my view] to have been 'marked' for numbered days.

:shrug:
 
tnthomas said:
Aw! I shouldn't have been surprised that we are left "cliffhanging" by our finger nails until...when- October?

So who "got it"? My guess is Carl. Killing Carl would send maximum ripples through Rick's world, which apparently is what Negan wants. Also, Carl(like the Governor) having lost an eye, appears[in my view] to have been 'marked' for numbered days.

:shrug:
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I think the victim is going to be that guy (name?) who recruited Rick and Darryl way back to come to come to the Alexandria community a couple of years ago. He hasn't been much in any episodes since but insisted of accompanying Rick & co. on this mission. This way the writers get a cliffhanger without having to kill off a major sharacter which they know would cost them viewers. :eek:
 
chic said:
I think the victim is going to be that guy (name?) who recruited Rick and Darryl way back to come to come to the Alexandria community a couple of years ago. He hasn't been much in any episodes since but insisted of accompanying Rick & co. on this mission. This way the writers get a cliffhanger without having to kill off a major sharacter which they know would cost them viewers. :eek:
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yes Aaron
 
The lazy/sleezy writers and/or producers apparently didn't even have the new season/opener partially filmed which means they 'could' change their minds at the last minute. The dead character's actor hasn't even been informed yet. Next seasons filming starts with in weeks. They could alter their ending due to fan reaction or maybe they did write it out.

http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-wal...-confirms-finale-death-hasnt-been-filmed-yet/

Cheap ending, nothing but cliff hanger designed for speculation and associated hype.
 
WhatInThe said:
The lazy/sleezy writers and/or producers apparently didn't even have the new season/opener partially filmed which means they 'could' change their minds at the last minute. The dead character's actor hasn't even been informed yet. Next seasons filming starts with in weeks. They could alter their ending due to fan reaction or maybe they did write it out.

http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-wal...-confirms-finale-death-hasnt-been-filmed-yet/

Cheap ending, nothing but cliff hanger designed for speculation and associated hype.
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This is the kind of thing that gets under my skin with much of today's series that I watch, the playing it by ear,this is extremely annoying especially if you watch shows that have sort of a clue based theme when they first started, then midway through the writers completely change who they felt their characters are or who did what and when. Of course they should have the right to switch things up,but, sometimes they go overboard. Noe twd writers not having even filmed or possibly chosen who got Lucilled, that's real life torture for the poor actors.
 
I'm one of the at this point not trying to figure out who it is, just don't feel like playing the game the whole thing just sucks. I'm over it. Well till they actually film the scenes and it gets leaked that is:playful:
 
AprilT said:
I'm one of the at this point not trying to figure out who it is, just don't feel like playing the game the whole thing just sucks. I'm over it. Well till they actually film the scenes and it gets leaked that is:playful:
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Yes, I've exhausted all my curiosity for now, the looong wait for season 7 blunts the fervor. I'm "up" for the start of Fear the Walking Dead this Sunday; have caught up on the FTWD webinars, as so good-to-go.

I'm still waiting for a FTWD casting call, haven't heard a thing, may have to sign up with other agencies. :shrug:
 
Well I think it is Glenn, why? Cause you hear Maggie scream and that would tear down Rick pretty good. Given the length of their relationship and what the characters have been through. But I guess they thought it would be a good idea to end it how they did. Regardless of how many complaints they are getting now. I have to say though I am getting tired of the make Rick strong, bring him down yet again. Oh and has anyone thought of why Morgan built the cell? I think it will hold someone pretty significant.
 
Yes the cell will indeed hold someone significant. ;). And I agree, what is turning me off big time is the constant building and destroying oo Rick. To make matters worse that is what Kirkman said the whole point of the story was about and will continue to be about early on.. Sickening.
 
AprilT said:
Yes the cell will indeed hold someone significant. ;). And I agree, what is turning me off big time is the constant building and destroying oo Rick. To make matters worse that is what Kirkman said the whole point of the story was about and will continue to be about early on.. Sickening.
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But when I think about it (which is more often than I'm comfortable with), it's a good direction to take - reshaping Rick til he's more down-to-earth and human (humane) again. Alexandria could have gotten him to that point but then there wouldn't have been much story-telling left.

Although "The Cleavers of post-apocalyptic new suburbia" sounds kind of interesting.

Despite what I said earlier, I'll watch the opener....at least.


Curse you, Jared, with your stupid comic books! :playful:
 

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