This will tell me a lot about if you like rodeos or any western related stuff

Ronni said:
Is that what you want, what you feel is lacking, that folks come to your defense if someone goes after you?

Folks have gone after me too, (I think you were one of them but I might be wrong) about having tattoos for example. My experience here is that more folks are against them than are for them. I have zero expectations that everyone will agree with me, or come to my defense if someone doesn't. I am perfectly capable of defending my position about the things I post about, nore do I have expectations that what I post will be commonalities with everyone else. How boring that would be!

I'm trying to figure out what you need, CR. What your expectations are about what we as a forum should provide for you. Is it discussion about the subjects that interest you? Being defended if someone goes after you?
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Well, I sure got "racked over the coals" over my thread about tattoos. Some understood why wife and I don't like them, while others had their own things to say about it. When I done the thread, it was out of curiosity aka the word "why?". When I was doing the thread, I didn't give it a thought of the "backlash" I could get. Anyway, whenever I've looked at the cable tv show, Gangland, the word "why" always comes to mind. The same network goes into prisons and talks to guards and prisoners also.

Then, I done this thread, not giving it a thought that there would be those that don't like rodeo at all and would have things to say to me as well as about it.

I remember doing a thread, but not sure if it was on this forum or not, with a title "When To And When Not To, Do A Thread". Sometimes it can be really, really hard to know "yes" and "definitely not".
 

treeguy64 said:
Appreciate your reply. I'm sure you have interesting stories to tell. While you may not find any kindred spirits, here, I'm pretty sure we, as a group, would be interested in hearing about some of your past experiences. If all you want to do is complain, as others have said, over and over, again, then you're probably well advised to ride off into the sunset. It's really your choice.
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BUT, how does a person know when a thread they do, ends up pissing some folks off??? The thread might not sound like complaining in the beginning, but, somehow, somebody can take it that way. Guess some threads should be really thought about before being done. Right?
 
hollydolly said:
Cody relax... chill out.. don't take everything so seriously..

Most of us like you, you're not a dislikeable person , I've told you that in the past , but I echo what everyone else says, you can't just keep harping on the same subject all the time, knowing that most are not interested..

Would you continue to read an posts of mine for example which were only about riding my bike, or baking a cake, and demanding everyone else should like my posts, over and over again?..well you wouldn't...so you need to diversify and be interested in other people's lives to appear interesting yourself to others..

yesterday we went boating in the local river ..only in the little motorboat not the Narrowboat that you know well.. and I took a 6 minute Video, just of the peace and calmness as we went along the river . I haven't added any music or anything to it, it's in its raw state ... so sit back , enjoy and relax....


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Sorry, Holly, but, like anyone on here, I take some things very seriously. You just happened to be much more "agreeable" towards folks than I am. My wife is like that. My brother, my SIL (wife's sister) and my wife's female friend, would much rather talk to her than me on the phone. Now why? Because I will disagree with them on things that I feel that I know better about. They don't like that. Now, my wife, she simply goes along with whatever they say. Have had both SIL and wife's friend hang up their phone on me, because they didn't like what I was saying. IOW, not agreeing with them.
 
Aunt Bea said:
That's a decision that only you can make, do what is best for you.

"Some trails are happy ones,
Others are blue.
It's the way you ride the trail that counts,..." - Dale Evans
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True, but there are those that I'd really, really miss on here. Avatar is gone, but still wondering about the "leave" thing. Unfortunately, like some others, I really do spend more time than I should on the forum or even on the computer itself.
 
ClassicRockr said:
True, but there are those that I'd really, really miss on here. Avatar is gone, but still wondering about the "leave" thing. Unfortunately, like some others, I really do spend more time than I should on the forum or even on the computer itself.
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Go ahead admit it, deep down in your boots you really love us!!!:):playful::eek:nthego:
 
..I'm glad you enjoyed the video Cody ( given I posted it because you like Boating).. you're very welcome..even though you made no mention of it at all..

That's exactly the point we're all trying to make, you want people to be interested in everything you are, but you show no interest in anything other people do if it doesn't match your own, that's just not how it works!!
 
ClassicRockr said:
BUT, how does a person know when a thread they do, ends up pissing some folks off??? The thread might not sound like complaining in the beginning, but, somehow, somebody can take it that way. Guess some threads should be really thought about before being done. Right?
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I hear you, CR, and I'm not trying to be patronizing, here.

The one thing that unites us, here, is that we are all getting on, in age. As such, we do have some topics that we are all interested in: those that deal with aging and how to cope with the many challenges involved, therein.

When anyone posts something, there will always be those who share the original poster's position, and those who don't. That's not a bad thing. It makes for intellectual exchange, such as that may be, in here.

There must be forums dealing with rodeo issues. Have you checked the professional rodeo sites? I would never post, in here, about the pros and cons of single rope vs double rope ascents into trees. I would go to my arborist site, for that.

Anyway, I don't think you're a bad guy, CR, I just think you need to understand that everyone has opinions, and just because they may disagree with you, does not mean they're attacking you, unless you're attacking them.

Decide what you want to do, CR, and then do it. You hate Florida? Leave it. You want to post about rodeos, and find those who love it, find a rodeo site. You hate tattoos, write about why, as you've already done, several times, and then leave it alone. Don't keep posting about those three things, over and over, again. Everyone here likes you, to some extent, I believe. However, everyone, you included, soon grows tired of single, or double/triple, issue posters, over time.

Again, only you can decide what you really want to do, and I sincerely wish you the best, whatever you decide.
 
I never saw Cody's tattoo thread before so I went over to read it. I gotta say that it's strange how seem people can't help but draw negativity to themselves. Cody, the way you generalize people and lump them into certain negative categories based on your beliefs is a big mistake, you're your own worst enemy. If you want things to change be more open minded to different people and different things. Give an honest go at having a period of 24hrs without saying anything negative about anyone or anything. After you reach 24hrs, shoot for 48hrs and so on. Eventually you might find yourself seeing life in a different light. Try looking for the positives in people and life in general, I think you'll find you have more in common with a lot of different people than you think you do.
 
treeguy64 said:
I'm in Texas. I can ride and shoot. I do not patronize rodeos, as they're a spectacle of animal cruelty that need to be done away with. I watched all the old westerns on TV, still do. I have a few Stetsons, a pair of Ariats, a few western-cut shirts. The actual Spaghetti Westerns were great. TGTBATU is one of my favorite flicks. So????
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^^^ Couldn't have said it better myself. It's really disgusting how we allow animal cruelty as long as there's profit in it.
 
ClassicRockr said:
True, but there are those that I'd really, really miss on here. Avatar is gone, but still wondering about the "leave" thing. Unfortunately, like some others, I really do spend more time than I should on the forum or even on the computer itself.
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Why all the (repeated) drama about leaving? If you get irritated by something, just leave until you get over it. All the drama of removing the avatar, trying to get people to beg you to stay or whatever is the point of this thread... good grief. Repeated dramatic exit threads are tedious and silly.

Most of us go through cycles on a forum; we post a while then take a break. And we can do it without drama. Give it a try. Stay or go; it's up to you.
 
C'est Moi said:
Why all the (repeated) drama about leaving? If you get irritated by something, just leave until you get over it. All the drama of removing the avatar, trying to get people to beg you to stay or whatever is the point of this thread... good grief. Repeated dramatic exit threads are tedious and silly.

Most of us go through cycles on a forum; we post a while then take a break. And we can do it without drama. Give it a try. Stay or go; it's up to you.
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^^
:clap:. Exactly.

The large number of people feeding into such nonsense over and over and keeping it going ... wow. :rolleyes:
 
Well, I still like rodeos. I did not read the thread about tattoos, but I love them. Daughter and son both have them, and are "mainstream" people. I have no dog in this fight, as my son explained about fourms, come or go as you will. It's not like we live next door to each other.
 
ClassicRockr said:
BUT, how does a person know when a thread they do, ends up pissing some folks off??? The thread might not sound like complaining in the beginning, but, somehow, somebody can take it that way. Guess some threads should be really thought about before being done. Right?
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ClassicRockr said:
Well, I sure got "racked over the coals" over my thread about tattoos. Some understood why wife and I don't like them, while others had their own things to say about it. When I done the thread, it was out of curiosity aka the word "why?". When I was doing the thread, I didn't give it a thought of the "backlash" I could get. Anyway, whenever I've looked at the cable tv show, Gangland, the word "why" always comes to mind. The same network goes into prisons and talks to guards and prisoners also.

Then, I done this thread, not giving it a thought that there would be those that don't like rodeo at all and would have things to say to me as well as about it.

I remember doing a thread, but not sure if it was on this forum or not, with a title "When To And When Not To, Do A Thread". Sometimes it can be really, really hard to know "yes" and "definitely not".
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Easy

Cease comparing and categorizing folks that aren’t like you

It’s inflammatory (you should know that by now)

As it stands, you feed yer own problem
Much like Traveler, of whom (you may have noticed) took you under his convoluted wing and made you his protégé during yer tattoo tirade


OK, yer a cowboy

Tell some cowboy stories
Some rodeo stories
Some boating stories

If you get negativity from that, it’s their problem
 
My daughter`s quarterhorse was sent for training with a guy who was close friends with Ed Cohn,who was very well known in rodeo in California. Ed liked my daughter`s horse and put some time in on her as well. Thought she wold make a great cutting horse. When we picked her up,Ed was there and said "Well,she might have had a rope over her head a time or two while she was here." But she only used her for trail riding.

Just Googled Ed Cohn-I see he`s still involved in rodeo. https://www.roperssportsnews.com/9-uncategorised/1121-senior-gold-card-team-roping-in-salinas

This was nearly 30 years ago we sent her for training.
 
ClassicRockr said:
Well, I sure got "racked over the coals" over my thread about tattoos. Some understood why wife and I don't like them, while others had their own things to say about it. When I done the thread, it was out of curiosity aka the word "why?". When I was doing the thread, I didn't give it a thought of the "backlash" I could get. Anyway, whenever I've looked at the cable tv show, Gangland, the word "why" always comes to mind. The same network goes into prisons and talks to guards and prisoners also.

Then, I done this thread, not giving it a thought that there would be those that don't like rodeo at all and would have things to say to me as well as about it.

I remember doing a thread, but not sure if it was on this forum or not, with a title "When To And When Not To, Do A Thread". Sometimes it can be really, really hard to know "yes" and "definitely not".
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BUT, how does a person know when a thread they do, ends up pissing some folks off??? The thread might not sound like complaining in the beginning, but, somehow, somebody can take it that way. Guess some threads should be really thought about before being done. Right?
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Why do you spend so much time wondering when or whether or not to post a thread? Is it because you only want to post things that people will agree with you on? Or because you don't want backlash? Or because you don't want to be challenged? What is it that makes whether or not to post this or that such a problem to you? I am genuinely inquiring, here.

The folks here are an extremely diverse lot, with opinions that span an enormous spectrum. It doesn't matter what you post about, some will agree, some will disagree, and some just won't care. That's the nature of forums and topics on them.

I don't ever worry about whether or not my topics will be well received. I just share what's on my mind. I am genuinely curious about something so I'll ask a question. Or I find something interesting so I post about it. Or I'm excited about some aspect of my personal life, and I want to share it. Personally, there is never any angst or concern about "should I post this or not?" because I'm not in the least invested about it being well received, or that I will be liked as a result of posting, or because I want to get lots of replies or whatever. I just post, from a very personal perspective, and don't litter my posts with a lot of generalities like "everybody knows" or "people who do this or that are wrong" or "no one wants to hear about this or that." Those kinds of generalized statements are inflammatory, vague and challenging.

For example, I am not upset with you for saying that you, personally, don't like tattoos. There's no reason on earth why you should, or have to, and it would be completely off for me to dislike you or attack you because you don't like ink. What actually annoyed me about that whole debacle were your generalized, negative statements on the subject, the kind of "everybody thinks" approach you tend to use, and with which you seem to try and bolster your position.

I'm not attacking you here. I am honestly curious about what brought you to this point, why you seem to struggle so much with what to post, and then why you seem to be taken by surprise at the response you get.

And just as one final think, an added perspective for you, I'm a ballroom dancer. I've posted about that before. If you think interest in Western stuff is in limited supply here, try finding folks who are as passionate and knowledgeable about ballroom dancing as I am! :lol:
 
I know as much about ballroom dancing as I do about rodeo. Nothing. I like to watch both, however. I do know about tattoos. I love tattoos so I am going to have to find the post and read it. If I didn't have very thin skin which can't be tattooed, I would be covered in them. I have a scar, from when I fell on my face, I'd like to cover with a tattoo.
 
I know a bit about this topic.
In the hill country of Tx, Central Texas 1950''s and 60's all 'good boots' came from Mexico.
Drive to Mexico 50-100 miles in to interior, you could buy a hand made pair of boots: measure foot, built bottom of boot while you waited,
to assure proper fit, you then departed.
You don't rush a custom made pair of boots
You returned week or so (two trips required) while boot maker built rest of boot. A custom pair of boots for $50.00 and up. You could get a cheaper pair, but not the custom made boots.
That's a large expenditure for a working cowboy , the two drives to the border, then the trip of bookmaker, food, gas money, boots...
The talk was, 'Us go down there, buy the boots, pitch a week long drunk, run whores-prostitutes are difficult to locate in the villages
in the interior. This was the era where women were not allowed in cantina's, a few prostitutes were allowed in at night; cantina's were a
male gathering place, females were frowned upon.

Most of us would drive to border town, purchase a semi-pair of boots for $20-25 bucks, about the same quality of American mass produced
boots. Border towns know full well what their products cost in America, don't anticipate ' a steal.'

Headgear, purchased in border towns, don't recall any custom made hats...
A working cowboy's hat is smeared with oil, grease, dirt... accumulated filth..., it is a dirty job, certainly not glamorous, but it also signifies that
this is a real cowboy. Some, a very few, had their Saturday Night Hat for courting...

I have a lot of stories, facts, but their from the 50's 60's.
 
Big cities have good rodeos because the purse attracts the big names.

Prefer smaller rodeos, there is a small rodeo in Mesquite, Tx which has had a rodeo for forever.. (It got on the circuit around the 60's)
The owner, (Gary?) Gay started from scratch-he was the real deal. He was well respected by stock providers-the stock providers are the
men that own and provide the stock you see in the rodeo. If you are going to have a good rodeo you have to have good stock.
Stock providers are a tightly knit group, piss 'um off, your going to have nothing but nages, old give out bulls...
Remember, transportation of stock to rodeo is big expense, the closer the stock is the greater the profit margin.
Yes, rodeos are to preserve heritage, but you cannot have a rodeo that loses money.
Cowboys appeared for peanuts until the 70's-80's, probably longer

Back to this Mesquite, Tx Rodeo. The old man (Gary?) Gay lived next door to his small rodeo, is it any wonder that his son, Donnie Gay
started riding before he could walk.
Donnie Gay, grew up to be a bull rider. He was the prototype for small men riding bulls. He is about 5'8' if that, 150 pounds or so.
Won at least one belt as the best, I don't think he ever won a second belt. He is very well know and respected for his talent.

There is a bone-chilling video of him being caught up in his halter being slung around by a 1500-1600 pound bull.
He and father hung out at Waffle House close to Rodeo, friendly folk.
The circuit guys know each other personally or by reputation, another close kitted group.
I'm sure that's all changed now. The Mesquite Rodeo has turned into a big event, the Dallas Folk, flock to see real cowboys...

A big bull will run up to 1800 pounds. No way would I 'd crawl on to the back off something that big, that mean; I'll leave that too the
real cowboys. I kind'a think their nuts, but the money has become good, soooooo .

Two years ago, the Champion All Around poke broke the million dollar barrier in Oklahoma Finals, still you measure what baseball and
football players it is not enough. Their all too many hands in the pot. Rodeo's require many individuals, all have to be paid.

Any day now you'll see the horses, bulls, calves... demanding a cut-- Ha
 
Ronni said:
Why do you spend so much time wondering when or whether or not to post a thread? Is it because you only want to post things that people will agree with you on? Or because you don't want backlash? Or because you don't want to be challenged? What is it that makes whether or not to post this or that such a problem to you? I am genuinely inquiring, here.

The folks here are an extremely diverse lot, with opinions that span an enormous spectrum. It doesn't matter what you post about, some will agree, some will disagree, and some just won't care. That's the nature of forums and topics on them.

Ronni:
I have not read the post your responding to, the second paragraph above is something I've grappled with, has resulted in a great deal of
curiosity.

Wish I'd said that, thought about it-"Na, too much trouble."
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hollydolly said:
You're all talking to the wind, the OP of this thread no longer posts here
Damn!
Curious, how did you find that out. I went to his 'about' and other, before I started...

Gary O is seeking females for his Taproom post, I think you would be great
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