Tiny Homes

We have a tiny house in our property. Ron and one of his daughters built it several years gi so she could live in it for a year to save money to buy a home, which she did. Now we rent it out to another of the kids.

We were going to Airbnb it but the codes here are ridiculously restrictive for airbnbs so renting it month to month works just as well.

We’ve also discussed the idea that if Ron predeceases me, I could live in it rent free and rent out the main house for a lot of
money!
 

I lived and worked in a 300 square foot house for 8 or 9 years. It was perfect for one person, along with desk and shelves for my business.

Near the end of that time, my boyfriend moved in. Two people being together in a small space wasn't a problem. His hoarding of stuff was a problem.

Lots of people live in small bachelor or studio apartments. The main advantages of having the same square footage in a free-standing structure are privacy and quiet.
 

If someone ever considers buying a tiny home, be sure it can actually be moved now or in the future if you’re selling. All kinds of rules around these things, height, width, weight and if they’re even permitted where you want it.
 
Mobile teenee tiny homes can be great too.
Really frees up the creature within 🐸 to get out and see the world.
But does not include a bathroom though in balance an AC isn't necessary.

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Murrmurr said:
"We cannot just let people plunk down tiny houses without basic utilities and plumbing" but laws allow homeless people to throw up a tent or cardboard shelter and crap on the side of the road everywhere except on private property.

Then of course, there's the argument about private vs public property.

For example, I lived in a house owned by my son and, as required by city ordinances and bylaws, home owners are responsible for maintenance and repairs to the section of sidewalk that runs from one side of the home owner's property to the other, as well as the strip of grass (his had a big elm tree on it) between that section of sidewalk and the street. So I mowed, edged and watered that grass strip, and pruned its elm tree as needed, and when a root from the elm caused the sidewalk to crack and become uneven, the city insisted I fix it. So I dug out and removed the offending root, removed the broken bits of sidewalk, bought the cement and some soil and sod, and patched it all up. If I hadn't, my son would have been heavily fined. ...Oh, and I had to buy the freakin' permits, too. (my son paid for those)

BUT if a group of homeless people decided to pitch 5 or 6 tents along that strip or even on that sidewalk, the city would tell me and my son to leave them alone, and that they have the right to live there....suddenly that's public property. How in the hell do they have laws and ordinances that make home owners physically and financially responsible for maintenance and repairs of public property, under the threat of fines and charges for non-compliance, yet the home owner has no say about people living on it.

Same with public parks. People in the community pay taxes, the taxes pay for up-keep of public parks, but the tents crop up, and the tent people pee and crap wherever, pile their "collectables" here and there, and do their drugs right out in the open. And in no time, the public can't use the freakin parks their taxes maintain. Especially kids.
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Well, I am not an expert on crap, but I see no difference between the crap and pee of a 150 pound dog and the crap and pee of a person. Then there is the crap and pee of birds, squirrels, wild predators, deer (yes, we get deer in our neighborhoods in Utah,) cats-domestic and feral; and every other dang animal in the world that we share our parks and spaces with on a daily basis.

Cows, the poop of cows is ruining the world. My apartment complex, which caters to dogs reeks from the smell, especially when it rains.

Homeless people are not necessarily jobless people. Anyone with a job pays taxes.

Most parks sit empty a great deal of the time. In the drought states, they take a huge amount of water to keep green. I say, get the homeless out of tents and build tiny houses in all these parks on trailers-where people can keep their few belongings. This way the tiny houses can be moved -more or less to the areas they are needed.

Put in portable outhouses and water stations. Lay down gravel everywhere to avoid water wastage. The homeless deserve homes.

Oh, and the mice and rats 🤮.
 
Make tiny house neighborhoods. Small home, small yard. Available to buy. Oh no, that won't work. We need apartments built for a landlord to rent and more Mcmansions.
 
Remy said:
Make tiny house neighborhoods. Small home, small yard. Available to buy. Oh no, that won't work. We need apartments built for a landlord to rent and more Mcmansions.
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There are 2 or 3 tiny home villages in Los Angeles specifically for homeless people, and last I heard, they were working out really well. It's "transitional housing" - a place to live until you find permanent housing. Meanwhile, state workers are supposed to help the residents get sober if needed, obtain regular income, and build or rebuild their credit so they can qualify for a permanent rental home.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Well, I am not an expert on crap, but I see no difference between the crap and pee of a 150 pound dog and the crap and pee of a person. Then there is the crap and pee of birds, squirrels, wild predators, deer (yes, we get deer in our neighborhoods in Utah,) cats-domestic and feral; and every other dang animal in the world that we share our parks and spaces with on a daily basis.

Cows, the poop of cows is ruining the world. My apartment complex, which caters to dogs reeks from the smell, especially when it rains.

Homeless people are not necessarily jobless people. Anyone with a job pays taxes.

Most parks sit empty a great deal of the time. In the drought states, they take a huge amount of water to keep green. I say, get the homeless out of tents and build tiny houses in all these parks on trailers-where people can keep their few belongings. This way the tiny houses can be moved -more or less to the areas they are needed.

Put in portable outhouses and water stations. Lay down gravel everywhere to avoid water wastage. The homeless deserve homes.

Oh, and the mice and rats 🤮.
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I know enough about crap to know that cats and humans are among the few animals who will bury theirs, but you can only rely on cats to do it.

There are more and more working homeless (and more who are students, too). They pay taxes if their income is over something like $32K/yr. So I'm pretty sure most working homeless get a tax refund every year. But I think it's safe to say that when housed taxpayer's kids show mom or dad the needles they found in the park, or get a needle user's crap on their shoes, they aren't at all happy about where their taxes are going.

And I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say that most tax payers would rather see a solution to the problem of homelessness than see homeless people mucking up their neighborhood parks.

(i'm glad to see u back, Aneeda)
 
Murrmurr said:
There are 2 or 3 tiny home villages in Los Angeles specifically for homeless people, and last I heard, they were working out really well. It's "transitional housing" - a place to live until you find permanent housing. Meanwhile, state workers are supposed to help the residents get sober if needed, obtain regular income, and build or rebuild their credit so they can qualify for a permanent rental home.
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It's good to hear they are working out. And places like that are needed.

I also mean tiny houses, which depending on who's stating it, is 500 square feet or smaller. And that's totally livable. Built for people to buy and own.
 
Pinky said:
I'm wondering what measurements constitute a "tiny home"? Will have to look that up!
Some of the houses in these videos, really don't appear to be all that small.
They are all really nice.
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Depending on differencing opinions, I've seen 500 square feet and smaller. I don't think some 150 square foot place with a sleeping loft is livable. But 350 to 500, absolutely. I think my apartment which is larger, also has a poor floor plan with wasted space. A well planned out 500 square foot home is livable.
 
Murrmurr said:
I know enough about crap to know that cats and humans are among the few animals who will bury theirs, but you can only rely on cats to do it.

There are more and more working homeless (and more who are students, too). They pay taxes if their income is over something like $32K/yr. So I'm pretty sure most working homeless get a tax refund every year. But I think it's safe to say that when housed taxpayer's kids show mom or dad the needles they found in the park, or get a needle user's crap on their shoes, they aren't at all happy about where their taxes are going.

And I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say that most tax payers would rather see a solution to the problem of homelessness than see homeless people mucking up their neighborhood parks.

(i'm glad to see u back, Aneeda)
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Except there have been homeless among us (the human race) since JC, and before JC. Tax payers do not want a solution or there would be a solution. I remember when we went to LA, when I was a child in the 1950s, and there were plenty of homeless street people then. As there are now.

So, your limb is broken, don’t fall into the poop. 😊
 
Alligatorob said:
Human waste carries more pathogens that make humans sick than that of other animals. It's all offensive, but human is more dangerous to us.
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Not so sure, dog poop is fairly bad, but deer mouse droppings are the worst-they will kill you quickly.
 
I like the idea of tiny house living. I'm not sure if I could pull it off at 400 sq ft. Maybe at 600 sq ft.

I looked into it and there are a few tiny house builders in my state, but the problem is there aren't really any tiny house communities. They're building one in a major city, but it's exclusively for those who are homeless. So, if I want to live in a tiny house, I'd have to move to another state, which I don't want to do. If I wanted to move to Florida, Tennessee, or Georgia, I could find a community. Also, availability in an established community is limited. There are waiting lists to get in.

You can find communities that rent tiny houses or somewhere you can bring or build your own. Also, there's the lease or buy the land thing. I don't like the idea of renting because they can boot you out at any time, or leasing land. I'd rather buy the land.
katlupe said:
They are increasing. The tiny home owners have started working together changing laws and regulations in various places. I think the key is they have to keep the wheels on.
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The video you posted about the tiny community in Oregon is similar to living in a commune. If your tiny house doesn't have an oven or washer/dryer, it's nice to have a communal space where these are available for all to use.

Who knows, maybe before I'm completely decrepit, they'll have tiny house communities in my state where I can also buy the land. I think that affluent communities might be resistant to allowing the building of tiny houses in their area. I don't think I have to explain why. Of course, there are other areas where they could be built. I'm hopeful, but I'm not holding my breath.

Bella ✌️
 

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