Tipping - was this a hint/nudge?

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Ahhhhh, the tipping culture........


SCENARIO 1
Few weeks ago I ordered a pizza and paid by credit card. After getting my cc info, the guy said "Do you want to leave a tip for your driver?" I paused and said I'd take care of that when I got the order (and I did). But what if the delivery had taken a long time and if the driver had been rude? If a person leaves an advance tip, they're kind of stuck.

Some might say they were just trying to make it easier in case I didn't have any cash. But, I dunno, it still seems like "asking for a tip", which I don't like.


SCENARIO 2
This happened to a friend:
She decided to try a different hair salon. The stylist apparently was rather chatty, and was talking about an earlier customer (not by name), and suddenly he said "...and she's one of these people who leave a $2 tip".

I asked how she felt about the service, and friend said he did a decent job, and she left a $5 tip which (she said) is about what she usually tips for that service.


Thoughts?
 

I'm a generous tipper, but I do "adjust" tips if the service is not good. All of our kids worked as waiters/waitresses during their college years so I understand what a service person has to endure.
 
C'est Moi said:
I'm a generous tipper, but I do "adjust" tips if the service is not good. All of our kids worked as waiters/waitresses during their college years so I understand what a service person has to endure.
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Clarification - I'm not against tipping, although I do think it's gotten out of hand.
I'm also a generous tipper, if the situation merits it. I know servers/delivery people have tough jobs.
The issue is asking for a tip. I don't like that.

I'm also not fond of seeing "Tip Jars" at the register of take-out places.
 

I agree about the pizza delivery and don’t think they should ask the customer for a tip, it’s up to your discretion

I think the stylist comment about a previous clients tip was mean and unprofessional, so I would have been inclined to say “Here’s a tip for you, don’t discuss your clients with each other, you won’t be seeing me again”
 
Here's one for you. The lady that does footcare for a friend charged $22 and most will give $25 cash so she asks if they want the change....hint, hint.

Now her price went up to $25 and most will hand a twenty and a ten and she still asks if they want the change. I think most are too embarrassed to say No.
 
applecruncher said:
I posted this in wrong forum. Sorry. I'll ask SB to move.
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I doubt she will - she likes where she lives. ;)

I run into the same thing with pizza delivery. I always tip cash - there's just something wrong with tipping by credit in that situation. I want to make sure the poor delivery person gets that tip.

As for the salon - I'm totally dumb about the customs there. Not very nice of the stylist to mention other customers' habits, though.
 
I'm wondering if the pizza shop splits tips and by placing the tip on the CC it helps to assure that the kid on the phone gets his cut. I would say no and tip at the door.

In scenario two I think that it is wrong for a service person to discuss another customers business. I would probably leave a dollar tip to make my point.

Our state is looking at passing a bill to increase wages of service people and eliminate the need for tipping. IMO it is probably a good idea.
 
Service people definitely earn my tips. I was shocked when I first found out what servers made !

Seems like the tipping habits have extended wayyyy too far ! Tipping has come to be "expected" by some people who do nothing more than hand you something.
( Like the tip jars at a take out window )
 
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applecruncher said:

SCENARIO 1
Few weeks ago I ordered a pizza and paid by credit card. After getting my cc info, the guy said "Do you want to leave a tip for your driver?" I paused and said I'd take care of that when I got the order (and I did).


SCENARIO 2
The stylist apparently was rather chatty, and was talking about an earlier customer (not by name), and suddenly he said "...and she's one of these people who leave a $2 tip".
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Usually for pizza we pay cash and give a cash tip. We do order delivery from a good Chinese restaurant sometimes, and pay with credit card over the phone. They never ask over the phone about the tip, I can write it in when the food is delivered because the receipt still needs a signature, but I always leave it blank and give my tip in cash. Just a thing with me, I figure the worker would rather have cash in pocket for a tip.

I don't like the mouth or the attitude of that chatty stylist at all, not sure what I would have said to him at that moment, can't say I ever experienced a hairdresser trashing other customers, very unprofessional and rude.

I agree about the tip jars at take-out counters, I'm already driving to the restaurant to pick up my order, tips are for deliveries or in-restaurant service waiters, IMO.
 
At our local restaurant, they automatically add a 15% tip to the bill, to save us the trouble. It's a seniors community, don't know if that has anything to do with it. Customers are always free to add more if they want to, of course, and usually my friends and I do add a dollar or two.

Nobody seems to mind, it's generally considered a welcome convenience.
 
applecruncher said:
Clarification - I'm not against tipping, although I do think it's gotten out of hand.
I'm also a generous tipper, if the situation merits it. I know servers/delivery people have tough jobs.
The issue is asking for a tip. I don't like that.

I'm also not fond of seeing "Tip Jars" at the register of take-out places.
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I don't mind the tip jars, but the hinting or asking would put me off for sure.
 
I tip if I get good, attentive service in a restaurant. I tip a driver who gets me safely to my destination. I tip a workman who does what we discussed him doing, but goes the extra mile. I tip a musician who plays my request. I do NOT tip salespeople who ring up my purchase at a counter, unless they have to do something extra, for me. Anyone who hints around at a tip would get one only if he/she deserved it, along with my tip that it's very uncool to talk about tips with a client.
 
Sunny said:
At our local restaurant, they automatically add a 15% tip to the bill, to save us the trouble. It's a seniors community, don't know if that has anything to do with it. Customers are always free to add more if they want to, of course, and usually my friends and I do add a dollar or two.

Nobody seems to mind, it's generally considered a welcome convenience.
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We're veering off-topic. That often happens in discussions about tipping. Again, the issue is asking for a tip. However...

The only time I've known of a restaurant to automatically add 15% is when there is a group and it's on one check. To add a tip such as you've described is presumptuous. Convenience? For who? Tipping is optional. Seniors are capable of deciding if they want to tip and how much.
 
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applecruncher said:
Ahhhhh, the tipping culture........


SCENARIO 1
Few weeks ago I ordered a pizza and paid by credit card. After getting my cc info, the guy said "Do you want to leave a tip for your driver?" I paused and said I'd take care of that when I got the order (and I did). But what if the delivery had taken a long time and if the driver had been rude? If a person leaves an advance tip, they're kind of stuck.

Some might say they were just trying to make it easier in case I didn't have any cash. But, I dunno, it still seems like "asking for a tip", which I don't like.


SCENARIO 2
This happened to a friend:
She decided to try a different hair salon. The stylist apparently was rather chatty, and was talking about an earlier customer (not by name), and suddenly he said "...and she's one of these people who leave a $2 tip".

I asked how she felt about the service, and friend said he did a decent job, and she left a $5 tip which (she said) is about what she usually tips for that service.


Thoughts?
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I’m a hard liner when it comes to tipping
…and somewhat old school
When/if a percentage is suggested, I become a bit resistant
If it’s required, and not shown on their website or somewhere previous to or while making a reservation, that’s pretty much my last visit
It appears chintzy to me, and my mind travels places in regard to where that money actually goes

I consider a tip or gratuity strictly between me and the waiter/waitress, or service person
Be it valet, waiter, barber, or even some kid busting his/her hump at any retail outfit

A kid, that’d built up quite a sweat changing out my tires, refused a 20 I tried to hand him. Mentioned something about company policy
I tucked it in his shirt pocket, saying ‘fine, consider it a loan between you and me’

I sometimes tip more than the price of whatever I’m buying, if I see someone giving it their all

It’s a feel good
Both ways

Wife asked me once, while leaving a Denny’s type restaurant, ‘how much did you leave her?’
‘Not enough’
I’d left her a hundred dollar bill
All during the meal she did nothing but hustle, no visiting, no idling, with the exception of scanning her area to see where her service was required
Her uniform was a bit frayed
Her smile was as worn as her shoes

Looking back thru the big azz window from the parking lot while opening the door for my lady, I think I noticed her crying
Was tough to hold my own emotion
The meal was ‘OK’
The place was, well, a Denny’s type
The experience
was priceless

Unexpected giving can be the best feeling in the world

However
I will stiff anyone slacking
Anyone, anywhere
It’s between me and that person

Sorry, AP, I write
Sometimes with passion if it’s something of which I have deep conviction

"...and she's one of these people who leave a $2 tip".
The stylist has zero class
Same amount I’d tip
With a parting shot of, ‘this’ll buy you some food for thought before chatting with your next customer about your clientele's tipping traits’

"Do you want to leave a tip for your driver?"
‘Yes, and if the pizza is hot by the time he gets here, he’ll get one’
 
On a cruise ship, gratuities are added and you pay for them upfront before you ever get on the ship. Good service or not, there is little choice other than you can challenge it at the end of the cruise.
 
applecruncher said:
Ahhhhh, the tipping culture........


SCENARIO 1
Few weeks ago I ordered a pizza and paid by credit card. After getting my cc info, the guy said "Do you want to leave a tip for your driver?" I paused and said I'd take care of that when I got the order (and I did). But what if the delivery had taken a long time and if the driver had been rude? If a person leaves an advance tip, they're kind of stuck.

Some might say they were just trying to make it easier in case I didn't have any cash. But, I dunno, it still seems like "asking for a tip", which I don't like.


SCENARIO 2
This happened to a friend:
She decided to try a different hair salon. The stylist apparently was rather chatty, and was talking about an earlier customer (not by name), and suddenly he said "...and she's one of these people who leave a $2 tip".

I asked how she felt about the service, and friend said he did a decent job, and she left a $5 tip which (she said) is about what she usually tips for that service.


Thoughts?
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I agree with you about this asking (in one way or another) for a tip up front before services are rendered. In fact their are a couple of places I have been to that practice that that I only went to one time because of that. The worst ones IMO are the ones where you wait in line to place and pay for (where they encourage the tip when you sign the credit card receipt), then you take your number for your order, wait for your number to be called, then go back to the counter, pick up your order, get your own drink, find your own table, eat, and then bus your own table.
 
It doesn't bother me that they ask, nor if they have a tip jar. There's been some real issues about restaurant taxation here because different counties have different laws. When some restaurateurs want to go to a "no tipping" format, some of them have discovered local laws would cause a change to have the opposite effect of what they were trying to do.

It's a good reason to have a consistent state law passed, but the Legislature hasn't gotten around to it, not surprisingly.

Here it's common - not universal, but frequent - for large parties to be automatically assessed a gratuity charge. One restaurant did it for as few as 6 people, but most reserve it for the >10 groups.

My mother was a waitress for a number of years. It was the only job she could get. When we receive good service, which is most but not all of the time, I prefer to tip generously.
 
dpwspringer said:
I agree with you about this asking (in one way or another) for a tip up front before services are rendered. In fact their are a couple of places I have been to that practice that that I only went to one time because of that. The worst ones IMO are the ones where you wait in line to place and pay for (where they encourage the tip when you sign the credit card receipt), then you take your number for your order, wait for your number to be called, then go back to the counter, pick up your order, get your own drink, find your own table, eat, and then bus your own table.
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Sheesh. It's like the management/owner is saying "We don't pay our employees very much, so we want you customers to kick in some more money".

They can "encourage" all they want. Good luck with that.

OTOH I had some food delivered over the weekend and I tipped generously...the delivery was fast, food was hot, and employee was super nice.
 
If someone is doing foot care or any personal service as a self employed professional, IMO they SHOULD NOT expect or be given a tip beyond what they are charging for their service. Here's a hint from a former pizza del person. Better to charge the tip so if he gets held up & robbed for the cash he won't lose it. I add it on the charge slip at the door. I'm in & out of Supercuts in 20 min so no longer have any idea what "hairdressers" are like any more. I put $5 on the charge slip, drop to $ 3 if "wow, I never want to see that one again!"
Charging it lessens the chances of it getting stolen.
totally ignore counter tip jars. upscale restaurants, too complicated to have a firm rule.
 
For anyone that has groceries delivered to your home, how much do you tjp? I've read at least $10 or a percentage of the total bill. I know there is a delivery charge because the first order is no delivery charge.

I've never had the experience in a restaurant being asked for a tip ahead of time. I would tip anyway, though, just would vary it depending on the service. I know that restaurant workers have lousy pay and they work very hard. I have seen where some restaurants include the tip in the bill. That I really don't like.
 

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