Topless Pools

Feelslikefar said:
Berlin, Germany just announced that public pools will allow females to go topless.
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The background is that in December 2022 a female of 33 years was swimming topless at a public swimming pool. The staff asked her to cover her breasts. She refused and was expelled from the pool. She made a complaint and pointed out that the house and bathing rules do not specify any gender specific requirements but only require standard bathing attire. The ombudsman's office intervented with the result that swimming with nude upper body should be possible also for "female persons and/or for persons with female read breast" in the future.
Obviously "female read breast" includes all persons who don't look upon themselves as female.
But Berlin has quite a large Muslim community. We'll see what happens.
 
officerripley said:
I myself have no desire to be topless or nude in front of others because my body=yuck, but don't have a problem if others visit nude beaches or other areas. I doubt if the U.S. will ever get used to the nude human form though; way too much of that puritan/calvinistic/fire & brimstone religion in our past.
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I should've said the influence of that puritan/calvinistic/fire & brimstone religion still holds too much influence today in too many places here in the U.S.
 
Lavinia said:
Why? Why do some people want to display themselves? It's bad enough seeing fat, flabby bodies in swimsuits without being subjected to exposed breasts.
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I guess the same reason "others" want to body shame people for enjoying life naturally.

Maybe we should go back to swimming suits like these:
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Really, if it's not your thing it is very easy to avoid the areas. I don't think there should be laws banning simply nudity.
 
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How you view nudity depends on your mindset and how you perceive nudity. Some people view public nudity, even if it's only allowed in restricted areas, as lewd, obscene, or disgusting. I see it as none of those things. Everybody's got a body, and few of us look like models or movie stars. I can beat the drum all day about the difference between people who are exhibitionists who want to "display" themselves versus those who simply derive pleasure from communing with nature while naked, alone or with like-minded individuals, and that they have just as much "dignity, decorum, and decency" as their clothed counterparts, and I won't be able to change their perspective on it. That's fine with me.

I don't like okra, and no one can force me to eat it. 😜

Bella ✌️
 
I’ve skinny dipped when younger but never in public places. Nowhere where I could be seen. Now I have no such desire but still swim in lakes, rivers and oceans; never pools.
 
officerripley said:
I doubt if the U.S. will ever get used to the nude human form though; way too much of that puritan/calvinistic/fire & brimstone religion in our past.
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So in the US you have the right to bear arms but not to bare bodies!
"Second Amendment:" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 
horseless carriage said:
So in the US you have the right to bear arms but not to bare bodies!
"Second Amendment:" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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'Well-regulated' is the key word. Responsible gun ownership is one thing, but unfortunately there are too many idiots around so the general public are a menace to themselves as well as others.
 
horseless carriage said:
So in the US you have the right to bear arms but not to bare bodies!
"Second Amendment:" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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I think we are the only country in the world with the legal right to short sleeve shirts...
 
I remember years back the women of Ontario, Not all of them, but quite a few had a huge protests about women going topless on our Ontario streets... Till this day, I have yet to see a topless Lady waln down the streets... There was many more then one in this protests... So where are they? I believe 100 percent that you should be able to protest for anything as long as there are no riots or leuting... But where are all the topless women who participated in this protest??
 
NorthernLight said:
I think Europeans are more used to that kind of thing.

Did you know that it has been legal for women to go topless in the province of Ontario for about 30 years? I lived in Ontario for most of my life, including many years in Guelph. But I have never, ever, seen a woman go topless in Ontario, except at a privately owned nude beach.

https://www.guelphtoday.com/local-n...egan-30-years-ago-this-week-in-guelph-3960404
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NorthernLight, thank you for the link. This is quite interesting. I've never known about Gwen Jacob. In a certain way she was fighting for women's rights as her forerunners did, for example Amelia Bloomer regarding the dress reform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Bloomer
 
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