Ok. Thank you.
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Transitioning to Veganism/Vegetarianism
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Today I made my first gluten free vegan pizza with no yeast. It’s quick & easy. The dough is basically the same which I cut in half so I could make two.
Then I rolled it out on the cutting board but made a foolish mistake. I know @StarSong will figure it out.
Since I didn’t have any pizza tomato sauce, I added tomato pasta sauce which is too thin but the end result tasted really nice. The provolone vegan cheese treeguy suggested is great. I cut them into pepperoni shapes .... cause I’m silly
Here is a slice. The crust turns out like regular pizza dough even without gluten or yeast.
It’s soft and chewy. It’s baked on one of those round pizza pans with holes in them.
Then I rolled it out on the cutting board but made a foolish mistake. I know @StarSong will figure it out.
Since I didn’t have any pizza tomato sauce, I added tomato pasta sauce which is too thin but the end result tasted really nice. The provolone vegan cheese treeguy suggested is great. I cut them into pepperoni shapes .... cause I’m silly
Here is a slice. The crust turns out like regular pizza dough even without gluten or yeast.
It’s soft and chewy. It’s baked on one of those round pizza pans with holes in them.
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peppermint
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Are you a diabetic?.....I am not....
I suppose it depends on where you live as to how expensive fresh veggies are. But I am talking about when she was a teenager which was, hmm, over 50 years ago, lol. I grow my veggies during the summer.
What’s funny, and I didn’t read everything just glanced, both my GI guy and my husbands GI guy said not to take probiotics. If you do take them, you are supposed to rotate the different kinds. I simply stopped taking them.
Interesting.
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A doctor who specializes in intestinal issues.
Ok thanks.
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Let me add this, I have major intestinal issues. I’ve had two resections-portions of my bowels have been removed. My husband has had one blockage of the upper intestine but no resection. My sister-in-laws bowel exploded, blew a hole in her bowel, she was hospitalized for 9 months, and now wears a bag.
All these GI docs said no probiotics. It’s the GP’s that recommend them.
All these GI docs said no probiotics. It’s the GP’s that recommend them.
StarSong
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GI stands for gastroenterologists, or doctors whose training and experience focus on the gastro intestinal tract. IBS would be among their specialties.
I did, lol, which is why I took them; and my GP suggested them. But, if you read, it also tells you to change them out because apparently you can grow too much of one thing and not enough of another in your bowel. Too complicated for me to explain.
Thanks. Couldn’t think. I had a major shock last night, brain is still trying to function.
ok. Thanks for sharing.
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Yes I missed it. Thanks.
StarSong
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In doing some research this morning I find that there are two camps when it comes to prebiotics, probiotics and digestive enzymes. Some are strongly in favor and others think they're a waste of money unless one is recovering from a course of antibiotics - and are shaky about support even then.
Stripping out opinions and studies presented by people and companies with vested financial interest is always a challenge.
No surprise why it wasn't recommended to me by that doctor, who apparently falls into the "con" category.
Stripping out opinions and studies presented by people and companies with vested financial interest is always a challenge.
No surprise why it wasn't recommended to me by that doctor, who apparently falls into the "con" category.
I can only speak from personal experience and have no interior motive or monetary investment. A good probiotic definitely helps me and I have two digestive/ metabolism disorders. Perhaps trying them for yourself is the only sure way to find out.
I certainly don’t want to play doctor here.
I certainly don’t want to play doctor here.
What made you decide to change your diet and eliminate meat, dairy and all animal products?
Did your doctor tell you that you can’t digest them well and to stop eating them?
Yes.
StarSong
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No. Within a week, hubby & I watched two movies. Vegucated and Forks Over Knives. That's what turned us away from animal based foods. My IBS reducing considerably was a very unexpected, happy reward.
I saw a gastroenterologist during the height of my issues, a time when I was under tremendous business and personal stress, plus eating lots of meat and dairy. She took a detailed medical and family history and advised me that I have a genetic predisposition toward lower GI problems, they're probably somewhat mechanical, and also exacerbated by certain foods and/or stress. My father & grandfather were the same, as are two of my siblings and two of my children.
In the interest of not getting into graphic details, let's leave it at that.
Right now I’m feeling like I used to feel when I really cared about what I ate and enjoyed cooking, baking and food preparing. I’m no longer craving sweet stuff and now look forward to making and eating meals.
It has only been a week and I’ve already noticed lots of changes. Some of them we have already discussed but something else I’ve noticed is that my skin looks much better, my personal hygiene seems better and I’m starting to lose weight.
Starsong brought up a good point about kitchen hygiene and I’ve asked my husband if he could stop cutting meat on the wooden bread board I’ve had for 35 years. He agreed.
I’ve also put all my food items in a separate cupboard. It just makes things simpler and more organized for us both.
Today I had mixed bean salad which is completely vegan but I added some feta cheese made from sheep’s milk and it was delicious. I also made a Caesar salad with vegan dressing which is nice but then added artisan goats milk cheese and didn’t like it. It had hemp hearts added for added protein.
The feta cheese made from sheep’s milk taste like regular feta cheese only better. The artisan goats cheese tasted like ..... well.... goats.
Not that I’ve tasted goats but it tastes like the smell of goats which I don’t like so I threw it out. My husband tried the cheese and absolutely loved it and is going to stuff his steak with it tonight.
The bean salad is huge so I might give some to our neighbours since my husband doesn’t like it.
Bean salad has :
Cut green beans, yellow wax beans, pinto beans, kidney beans, black eyed peas, chick peas, black beans, niblet corn, celery, red onion, red pepper, cucumber, zucchini, green olives, black olives, baby corn cobs, water chestnuts and chopped cilantro.
Dressing: olive oil, white vinegar, apple cider vinegar, balsamic vinegar, thyme, cumin and dried oregano flakes.
The cheese is added last minute before I eat.
That way I can choice whether to eat vegetarian or full vegan which is perfectly fine with me.
The food enzymes made a HUGE difference in how I digest my food. Normally after eating the above meal I’d get bloated and have a lot of gas. Today I didn’t so am so glad I remembered about digestive enzymes. It opens the door to more food choices which is exciting stuff.

It has only been a week and I’ve already noticed lots of changes. Some of them we have already discussed but something else I’ve noticed is that my skin looks much better, my personal hygiene seems better and I’m starting to lose weight.
Starsong brought up a good point about kitchen hygiene and I’ve asked my husband if he could stop cutting meat on the wooden bread board I’ve had for 35 years. He agreed.
I’ve also put all my food items in a separate cupboard. It just makes things simpler and more organized for us both.
Today I had mixed bean salad which is completely vegan but I added some feta cheese made from sheep’s milk and it was delicious. I also made a Caesar salad with vegan dressing which is nice but then added artisan goats milk cheese and didn’t like it. It had hemp hearts added for added protein.
The feta cheese made from sheep’s milk taste like regular feta cheese only better. The artisan goats cheese tasted like ..... well.... goats.
Not that I’ve tasted goats but it tastes like the smell of goats which I don’t like so I threw it out. My husband tried the cheese and absolutely loved it and is going to stuff his steak with it tonight.The bean salad is huge so I might give some to our neighbours since my husband doesn’t like it.
Bean salad has :
Cut green beans, yellow wax beans, pinto beans, kidney beans, black eyed peas, chick peas, black beans, niblet corn, celery, red onion, red pepper, cucumber, zucchini, green olives, black olives, baby corn cobs, water chestnuts and chopped cilantro.
Dressing: olive oil, white vinegar, apple cider vinegar, balsamic vinegar, thyme, cumin and dried oregano flakes.
The cheese is added last minute before I eat.
That way I can choice whether to eat vegetarian or full vegan which is perfectly fine with me.
The food enzymes made a HUGE difference in how I digest my food. Normally after eating the above meal I’d get bloated and have a lot of gas. Today I didn’t so am so glad I remembered about digestive enzymes. It opens the door to more food choices which is exciting stuff.

Oh ok. I just remember you stating earlier in this thread that you can’t digest many oils or you get IBS problems but you also said that when you eat a proper vegan diet that you have no issues whatsoever so I was somewhat confused.
My main reason for asking if it was your doctor who suggested you change your diet and you confirmed that it wasn’t. You took your health and what you eat into your own hands.
That’s how I feel about adding things like probiotics and digestive enzymes. They aren’t drugs. They are made from food substances.
I don’t think I could watch ‘forks over knives.’ In fact I know I couldn’t but can imagine what it was about. Thank you for answering my questions.
StarSong
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To clarify, I eat a Whole Food Plant Based diet, which by definition includes no added oils because oils aren't whole foods. They're stripped out of olives, soybeans, corn, et. al., leaving the fiber and other components behind. Most days I eat some olives, nuts, avocados, or other high fat foods and my digestive system manages them well.
The bean salad you posted above looks so delicious that I'm going to give it a whirl, but without the cheese or oil. Going mostly oil-free is like giving up the salt shaker. For the first week or so everything tastes weird, but after a while your taste buds adapt.
Just to let you know, Forks Over Knives is centered on the health aspects of WFPB/vegan diets versus meat & dairy based eating. Vegucated is heavily focused on the cruelties of the livestock industry. Parts of Vegucated were difficult for hubby and me to watch, but we're so glad we did.
drifter
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Don't know if I could make such a drastic move. Only maybe if death was the immient option.
I'd be like Job, or maybe it was Kristofferson: Why me, Lord?