Trimming & Cutting Toe Nails

I'm not your hun so please don't call me that. And no, you never admitted they are infallible.
 

I have actually had several nail techs remove ingrown toenails. I shouldn`t have let them but I did. And the scariest part is that one of them had to quit working because he has AIDS. So I will never let one do that again. I trusted him,he did the best pedicures ever,and then it turns out he has AIDS. Not sure if he`s alive still or not-he had to move in with his parents and lives across the street from the high school baseball field so I would see him a lot during baseball season. Didn`t see him last year though and his car wasn`t parked in the driveway anymore....
 

Mrs. Robinson said:
I have actually had several nail techs remove ingrown toenails. I shouldn`t have let them but I did. And the scariest part is that one of them had to quit working because he has AIDS. So I will never let one do that again. I trusted him,he did the best pedicures ever,and then it turns out he has AIDS. Not sure if he`s alive still or not-he had to move in with his parents and lives across the street from the high school baseball field so I would see him a lot during baseball season. Didn`t see him last year though and his car wasn`t parked in the driveway anymore....
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I hear you Mrs. R, we sometime have to learn the hard way. Before I had been to a podiatrist, I would have thought a pedcurist (what they are called I think) I would have assumed they could do that. I didn't realize it is a "surgical" process (just a local, day surgery but still). I don't doubt there are some that may know how, pedicurists, but as I said, I like that person that has first accomplished a BD, and then 4 more years. Plus, I don't see the kind of quality in the salons, not like in older days. They are a dime a dozen, some of them, and very inexpensive. That's always tempting to people that are less fortunate.

I've seen some toes, and one thing I notice is how thick a nail can get, I think it really depends on the feet/toes. I'll stick with a podiatrist, and for now, I can trim my own;)

I'm sorry Mrs. R, I meant to say "removing ingrown toenails" is "surgical", or can be I should say. I know guys that have cut out their own, eeeeeeeeeeweeeeeeeee!!
 
Well I just have to add, that because some of these techs receive licenses doesn't always mean much of anything, I've been to a few of these training facilities and let me tell you, at least here in Fl, the requirements are quite lax unless complaints are launch against these organizations and or facilities, a quick spritz and wipe for equipment isn't sanitizing, it takes at least a good twenty minutes between uses to properly sanitize the equipment if they are following proper procedures of which very rarely what you see too many facilities do. My experiences with the NY schools were pretty good, but here in Fl is where I picked up some nasty nail problems. Never ever will I ever visit one of teaching academies for service again where they are supposed to be required to follow the utmost of cleanliness and safety, neither of which were high priority at these schools.

I too have worked in healthcare and I've seen the results of what a small nip can turn into and as I've said, not all techs are as upstanding and will make note if they make a nip, most ethical ones will, (good luck,) but some are too embarrassed to say anything so keep mum if you do as well and for the person without feeling in there appendages, well that may not, but, could lead to a serious problem.

And if you do have a medical issue, you certainly had better inquire of the facilities practices, only makes sense and serves one right if they don't because they think it's being intrusive when you are dealing with your health.

Lon, is the only opinion that really matters here, so I hope his opinion is one in which he will ignore anything that doesn't treat his condition with utmost seriousness and refer back to his docs for advice on how to proceed.
 
I should also mention that I have gotten sooo many ingrown toenails from getting pedicures. Obviously they were doing something wrong. I have finally had to tell them "Do NOT cut down into the corner of my nail please". They shouldn`t anyway,but like AprilT says,having a license doesn`t always mean much.
 
My niece is a "technician" I think she is called, but anyway, her job is the clean the operating room afterwards. You can bet she has a lot of responsibility. I can't see any salons going to that sort of length, although maybe there are some. I guess we are just taking our chances, hoping for reliable folks, maybe someone we know, or someone recommends.
 
I would never let a tech remove an ingrown toenail... NOR do I let them shave my calluses.. They cut my nails... shape them.. maybe trim the cuticles, give me a nice foot massage, and put on a nice fresh coat of pretty polish.. That's it.. anything else IMO is surgery and they shouldn't be practicing medicine without a license.
 
nwlady said:
My niece is a "technician" I think she is called, but anyway, her job is the clean the operating room afterwards. You can bet she has a lot of responsibility. I can't see any salons going to that sort of length, although maybe there are some. I guess we are just taking our chances, hoping for reliable folks, maybe someone we know, or someone recommends.
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They don't HAVE to go to THAT extreme... they are NOT doing surgery Denise...
 
They are no longer allowed to "shave callouses",if you`re talking about the razor thingies they used to use. At least here in California they aren`t. That was what the nail tech that cut my foot cut it with.
 
I may be a little "OCD" about the potential for coming in contact with bloodborne pathogens, perhaps because despite proper training and closely following universal precautions I did in fact contract HCV while working in a detentions/corrections environment. I am virus free now, but the TX was grueling, but how I view even going to the barber shop has forever been changed.
 
Mrs. Robinson said:
They are no longer allowed to "shave callouses",if you`re talking about the razor thingies they used to use. At least here in California they aren`t. That was what the nail tech that cut my foot cut it with.
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Yes... I know that.. Not in Illinois either.. they use a little cheesegrater looking thing.. and a pumice stone.. Much safer.. but not as effective I might add.
 
nwlady said:
Isn't that what the whole point is here, the fact that severe foot problems call for a podiatrist, because they do have to go to that extreme?
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Do you actually understand what goes into cleaning a REAL operating room? Doctor's offices are FAR from operating room clean.. They aren't any cleaner than a good nail salon. In fact some Doctor's offices are pretty scuzzy.
 
QuickSilver said:
Do you actually understand what goes into cleaning a REAL operating room? Doctor's offices are FAR from operating room extreme.. They aren't any cleaner than a good nail salon.
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Haven't you ever heard the saying "if you find yourself in a hole, quit digging". You are going way off track of what I am saying, but as you were so kind to encourage me, I will return the favor, keep trying.
 
:cool:I appreciate all the in put and concern folks. but really, it's no big deal nor is my PN. I just have to be carelful about cutting my toes or stepping on glass, ciggi butts etc. I have a toe nail fungus which is the real problem and it's made some pretty narly ugly looking toenails as well as making them hard to cut. I have tried all the over the counter products with out success and may look further into the Laser Treatment. In the mean time here is what I have done. I booked for this Friday with a Nail Salon for a pedicure almost next door to where I live. A number of my peers suggested the place and gave it high marks for sanitation care and results. Though they can't cure the fungus they can at least make my ugly toe nails cosmetically acceptable:D
 
Ok Lon, I enjoyed the thread, learned a lot. You've got some references goin on for the salon so I'm sure you'll be fine;) denise
 
nwlady said:
Haven't you ever heard the saying "if you find yourself in a hole, quit digging". You are going way off track of what I am saying, but as you were so kind to encourage me, I will return the favor, keep trying.
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A dog shaking an old rag comes to mind.. lol!! But that's ok Denise... feel free to post the last word... I didn't think it was a contest but apparently it's important to you.. Go ahead... get your last lick in.. I won't comment..
 
Lon said:
:cool:I appreciate all the in put and concern folks. but really, it's no big deal nor is my PN. I just have to be carelful about cutting my toes or stepping on glass, ciggi butts etc. I have a toe nail fungus which is the real problem and it's made some pretty narly ugly looking toenails as well as making them hard to cut. I have tried all the over the counter products with out success and may look further into the Laser Treatment. In the mean time here is what I have done. I booked for this Friday with a Nail Salon for a pedicure almost next door to where I live. A number of my peers suggested the place and gave it high marks for sanitation care and results. Though they can't cure the fungus they can at least make my ugly toe nails cosmetically acceptable:D
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Actually.. PN alone does not prevent wound healing.. Diabetes and Diabetic arthrosclerosis will.. Enjoy your Pedi... so tell me.. are you going for a nice shiny buffing or perhaps a little clear coat?.. Just tell them to be careful as you have PN and cannot feel cuts very well.. I'm sure they will do a fine job.
 
QuickSilver said:
A dog shaking an old rag comes to mind.. lol!! But that's ok Denise... feel free to post the last word... I didn't think it was a contest but apparently it's important to you.. Go ahead... get your last lick in.. I won't comment..
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Really, sometimes you say you're done but then you come back, but ok, here it is "the last word".

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QuickSilver said:
There's also some medication that can help systemicaly I believe... I forget the name.. An MD might prescribe it.
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As with many of prescription pharmaceuticals the doctor's are anxious to prescribe these days, be aware of all possible side effects and drug interactions. The prescription's effects are often worse than the condition is supposed to treat.

Lamisil for fungus toe nail infection comes to mind, with the liver and kidney side effects. A young gal where I worked was put on it, and had to be taken off when her doc saw the liver tests.

I've had an issue with nail fungus many years ago, and the over-the-counter topical product worked for me, but if not, I'd try any of the natural alternatives first, like Tea Tree Oil, etc.

Side effects

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