TX woman arrested after racist rant

Lavinia said:
Archaeology is proving that, in fact, the 'Red Indians' were not the first settlers in the land which is now known as America. It seems Europeans arrived first, so yes, 'native Americans' seems to apply to no one race of people.
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There was some evidence to this effect published a few years ago, but most scientists are skeptical.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...mericans-may-have-had-european-roots-5517714/
 

Handling these types of situations are just not as simple as people think they are. Even this woman that was threatening has rights, but when she threatened these ladies and put her hands on them, she put herself at risk of being arrested. Making a terroristic threat is taken very seriously by most police departments. In Pennsylvania, depending on the judge, she could be charged with a 1st degree misdemeanor or a 3rd degree felony. Either way, she is going to be arrested and will have to be bailed out. Both charges could include jail or prison time, plus a hefty fine. And then there are also attorney fees, which aren't cheap. People need to think before they open their mouth, regardless if they are sober or drunk. If they are out on the town with their lady friends, they need to have a dedicated driver to keep them inline.
 
911 said:
If they are out on the town with their lady friends, they need to have a dedicated driver to keep them inline.
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I don’t understand what you think the group of women did wrong? They were verbally and physically attacked by the one woman.
 
One thing is sure, the Mexican woman is receiving more hatred from the masses than anything she ever dished out. I'm seeing this all over the internet today and recent school shooters didn't receive hatred like she's getting. thousands of raging posts against her. All of a sudden racism against Hispanic people has reared it's ugly head and they're calling to build the wall again.

Those four Indian women were good looking, educated and with their friends, I can't believe they were the least big "terrified." If they were they would have gone to their cars instead of repeatedly shouting to the woman to make her turn back.

Today they are famous and on the receiving end of thousands of good wishes. People are learning, as they well knew, to get your phones ready if you encounter any rudeness or racism and you'll soon be the media's darling. I don't know. These moments when the irate mob rears it's head on the internet are far more frightening to me than some random drunk woman in Texas.
 
911 said:
Handling these types of situations are just not as simple as people think they are. Even this woman that was threatening has rights, but when she threatened these ladies and put her hands on them, she put herself at risk of being arrested. Making a terroristic threat is taken very seriously by most police departments. In Pennsylvania, depending on the judge, she could be charged with a 1st degree misdemeanor or a 3rd degree felony. Either way, she is going to be arrested and will have to be bailed out. Both charges could include jail or prison time, plus a hefty fine. And then there are also attorney fees, which aren't cheap. People need to think before they open their mouth, regardless if they are sober or drunk. If they are out on the town with their lady friends, they need to have a dedicated driver to keep them inline.
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she was arrested, and she's out on $10k Bail
 
Della said:
One thing is sure, the Mexican woman is receiving more hatred from the masses than anything she ever dished out. I'm seeing this all over the internet today and recent school shooters didn't receive hatred like she's getting. thousands of raging posts against her. All of a sudden racism against Hispanic people has reared it's ugly head and they're calling to build the wall again.

Those four Indian women were good looking, educated and with their friends, I can't believe they were the least big "terrified." If they were they would have gone to their cars instead of repeatedly shouting to the woman to make her turn back.

Today they are famous and on the receiving end of thousands of good wishes. People are learning, as they well knew, to get your phones ready if you encounter any rudeness or racism and you'll soon be the media's darling. I don't know. These moments when the irate mob rears it's head on the internet are far more frightening to me than some random drunk woman in Texas.
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I;m afraid the same thing happens here.. causing a kind of reverse racism hatred... because people ( altho' these people were certainly victims).. who might even be looked at the wrong way, start creating a much bigger deal and crying for sympathy all over Social Media, becoming minor celebrities for 5 minutes..
 
fuzzybuddy said:
Unfortunately, the Plano ranter/attacker is not alone. She accurately expressed the feelings of many native-born Americans. For those, almost any ethnic group can be classified as "them", and hated. I believe that sentiment is more widespread than we understand. And there is also a degree of hate we underestimate. There is no nation on earth that isn't plagued with this undercurrent of hate.
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She may not have been a native-born American. I believe she states in her rant that she is from Mexico.
 
DebraMae said:
So, I have trouble understanding this type of hate. What do you think is at the bottom of it? Is it fear? Ignorance?
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My personal feeling is that it is ignorance. I could be like my grandfather, who lived in the hills of North Carolina and never traveled or experienced other cultures. He was a blatant racist, but I still loved him because I understood that he didn't know any better.

My father chose to move us to Florida due to his career, where I experienced the Cuban culture and learned to appreciate that we are not all the same but we should all be respected. I have had the good fortune to travel to 5 continents in my career, so I think it has given me a better understanding of what makes us all the same, even with our differences. Now that I live in Texas, I have tremendous respect for Mexican Americans who are basically the backbone of our state. My husband is Filipino, so after 30+ years I have a greater appreciation for his culture as well.

Lastly, being gay I've seen that those who know a gay person or have a relative who is gay have more tolerance for us. That is most certainly overcoming ignorance rather than hatred.
 
Jules said:
I don’t understand what you think the group of women did wrong? They were verbally and physically attacked by the one woman.
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@911 will hopefully correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think he was referring to the E. Indian ladies, but rather to people like the racist ranter who accosted them. He was talking about people who feel free to spew nasty remarks and treats in general just before the part if his comment that you quoted.
 
911 said:
Handling these types of situations are just not as simple as people think they are. Even this woman that was threatening has rights, but when she threatened these ladies and put her hands on them, she put herself at risk of being arrested. Making a terroristic threat is taken very seriously by most police departments. In Pennsylvania, depending on the judge, she could be charged with a 1st degree misdemeanor or a 3rd degree felony. Either way, she is going to be arrested and will have to be bailed out. Both charges could include jail or prison time, plus a hefty fine. And then there are also attorney fees, which aren't cheap. People need to think before they open their mouth, regardless if they are sober or drunk. If they are out on the town with their lady friends, they need to have a dedicated driver to keep them inline.
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911, could you please explain what you mean in the last part of your quote? Why do they need a dedicated driver to keep them in line? What did these women do wrong? They were enjoying a dinner with friends, and the news item doesn't even mention anything about alcohol being involved.

The woman who attacked them in the parking lot is obviously mentally disturbed. And also obviously a racist. ("We don't want you? Go back to where you came from?")
 
Sunny said:
911, could you please explain what you mean in the last part of your quote? Why do they need a dedicated driver to keep them in line? What did these women do wrong? They were enjoying a dinner with friends, and the news item doesn't even mention anything about alcohol being involved.

The woman who attacked them in the parking lot is obviously mentally disturbed. And also obviously a racist. ("We don't want you? Go back to where you came from?")
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Please see my post #61 responding to Jules asking same thing. But when i read it i very much got the idea he was talking about people like the ranter who feel entitled to be unpleasant to people for no valid reason. I tagged @911 in that post too and hope he will clarify for us all.
 
Alligatorob said:
Yep, harder to dislike someone you know than a stranger...
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Not so sure about that, sometimes the more you know some people the more reasons they provide to dislike them. Usually more valid reasons than external factors like looks/color/ethnicity etc. For me its how they treat other people, especially if its clear they veiw those others less valuable humans than themselves.

But then I'm weird, i give every one a baseline 'fellow human' respect when i meet them. Display common courtesy to all as well. But they can lose my respect fast with certain behaviors. (See 1st paragraph.)
 

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