Update on antartica rescue

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In case you haven't already heard about it, wonderful news!

All 52 passengers who were stranded aboard an ice-locked ship in Antarctica for more than a week were rescued by helicopter early Thursday, officials said.

Woo Hoo!!!!!
 

SeaBreeze, that site has an agenda.

In their own words, it is "Exposing and combating liberal media bias".

That is not to say that they aren't being objective and telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth but I would like to see another independent source that confirms the objectives of the MV Akademik Shokalskiy.

The ship is rather luxurious by all accounts because it takes paying passengers http://expeditionsonline.com/vessels/expedition-ships/akademik-shokalskiy/

The purpose of this expedition, apart from the centenary of Douglas Mawson's expedition is clearly outlined here:

[We are going south to:


  1. gain new insights into the circulation of the Southern Ocean and its impact on the global carbon cycle
  2. explore changes in ocean circulation caused by the growth of extensive fast ice and its impact on life in Commonwealth Bay
  3. use the subantarctic islands as thermometers of climatic change by using trees, peats and lakes to explore the past
  4. investigate the impact of changing climate on the ecology of the subantarctic islands
  5. discover the environmental influence on seabird populations across the Southern Ocean and in Commonwealth Bay
  6. understand changes in seal populations and their feeding patterns in the Southern Ocean and Commonwealth Bay
  7. produce the first underwater surveys of life in the subantarctic islands and Commonwealth Bay
  8. determine the extent to which human activity and pollution has directly impacted on this remote region of Antarctica
  9. provide baseline data to improve the next generation of atmospheric, oceanic and ice sheet models to improve predictions for the future
http://www.spiritofmawson.com/the-science-case/
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It is a shame that they will be unable to collect all the data that they were seeking, because it would have been helpful to compare it with Mawson's. Still, in the Antarctic there are no guarantees of success.
 

Here's some more "Exposing and combating liberal media bias":

Ship Of (Cold) Fools Rescued At Last
An Icy Blast Of Scepticism Greets Climate Expedition

Rescuers in Antarctica have safely transferred all 52 passengers stranded on the ice-bound research vessel Akademik Shokalskiy. The Shokalskiy has been trapped since Christmas Eve. Its 22 crew are expected to remain on board to wait until the vessel becomes free. The ice-bound research vessel has been trapped since Christmas Eve. One of the aims is to track how quickly the Antarctic's sea ice is disappearing. --BBC News, 2 January 2014


Reporting on the environmental movement has always required a certain sense of humor. In an earlier age, explorers who so badly underestimated the expanse of polar ice would surely have perished. But the 74 passengers and crew of the Akademik Shokalskiy are thriving. In this season of new beginnings we have here a chance to appreciate the amazing technologies created by free people. For they allow us to laugh at the folly of our fellow humans, rather than having to mourn their passing. --Editorial, The Wall Street Journal, 2 January 2014


The aim of the Australasian Antarctic Expedition, led by Chris Turney of the University of NSW, was to prove the East Antarctic ice sheet is melting. Its website spoke alarmingly of “an increasing body of evidence” showing “melting and collapse from ocean warming”. As they are transferred to sanctuary aboard the icebreaker Aurora Australis, Professor Turney and his fellow evacuees must accept the embarrassing failure of their mission shows how uncertain the science of climate change really is. They cannot reasonably do otherwise. --Editorial, The Australian, 2 January 2013


Climate scientist Chris Turney’s team of embedded global media and paying science-minded tourists has spent the festive season trapped in sea ice instead of exploring what melting ice caps mean for mankind. Turney is lamenting that he has become trapped in his own experiment. But the bottom line is, once again, nature has drifted from the script. Unfortunately for Turney the take-out of the mission for a legion of sceptical bloggers worldwide has been “global warming scientists forced to admit defeat because of too much ice”. --Graham Lloyd, The Australian, 2 January 2014


Who pays for the rescue of the Akademik Shokalskiy? According to the Age: The operators of a ship stricken in the southern ocean are facing a multimillion-dollar expense bill, as a third vessel began a rescue attempt five days after the tourist ship became trapped in sea ice. Under the Treaty of the Safety of Life at Sea, vessels are required to respond to a distress message, with the costs incurred a matter for the ship owners after the event, the AMSA said. These can include fuel costs, crew costs and loss of revenue. --Paul Homewood, Not A Lot Of People Know That, 30 December 2013

Winter sea ice cover in the Antarctic has grown to its largest extent since satellite records began in the late 1970s, defying most climate models and muddying the waters of the global warming debate. The data runs contrary to the projections of many climate-change models. Scientists appear unable to definitively explain the phenomenon, but believe increasingly strong winds in Antarctica and an increase in rain and snow on the Southern Ocean are the most likely factors. Some fear the findings may fuel climate-change scepticism, given that sea ice is said to be the "canary in the coalmine" of global warming. --Matthew Denholm, The Australian, 24 October 2013


1) Antarctic Rescue Of Trapped Climate Expedition - BBC News, 2 January 2014

2) Stuck On A Ship Of (Cold) Fools - Editorial, The Australian, 2 January 2013

3) Carbon To The Rescue: Fossil Fuels Power Retrieval Of Trapped Climate Scientists - Editorial, The Wall Street Journal, 2 January 2014

4) An Icy Blast Of Scepticism - The Australian, 2 January 2014

5) Expedition On The Cheap? Did Organisers Negligently Put Lives And Property At Risk? - No Tricks Zone, 31 December 2013

6) Who Pays For The Rescue? - Not A Lot Of People Know That, 30 December 2013

7) And Finally: The Cold Reality True Believers Ignored At Their Peril - The Australian, 24 October 2013




1) Antarctic Rescue Of Trapped Climate Expedition
BBC News, 2 January 2014

Rescuers in Antarctica have safely transferred all 52 passengers stranded on the ice-bound research vessel Akademik Shokalskiy.

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The Australian rescue operators said the scientists and tourists were now all aboard the ship Aurora Australis.

They were flown there in groups by a helicopter from a Chinese ice-breaker.

The Shokalskiy has been trapped since Christmas Eve. Its 22 crew are expected to remain on board to wait until the vessel becomes free.
CCNet 02/01/14
Ship Of (Cold) Fools Rescued At Last
An Icy Blast Of Scepticism Greets Climate Expedition
 
All this talk about more sea ice and making fun of scientist does not change the hard facts that earth is warming as a whole and that the ice packs are shrinking at alarming and record breaking rates. I still believe the scientist over some Rupert Murdoch rag or highly bias corporate ran news media.
 
Not a one of us has said the world isn't getting warmer. We are saying, and history and science proves, that it is a cyclical event that has happened over and over. It is not a doomsday event as Al Gore lovers would have people believe.

Yes, if the earth warm significantly there will be many changes, some good, some not so good. Neither the scientists or the rags know exactly what the changes may be.

A rise in sea levels will be nowhere near the disaster Al Gories ( I made that term up) predict. It will only effect extremely low lying areas that probably shouldn't have been built there in the first place. New Orleans ??

People with enough common sense to adapt to changes as needed will survive much better than those who sit and holler for the government to do something.
 
But the question is Jackie what are you going to do with those hard facts? Knowing, believing,being right or wrong that the Earth is warming now or not, or was on the verge of a scientifically proven ice age back in the 70s that never happened doesn't matter much, because when it all comes down to it we either adapt to it or die when and if it comes. (or else goes away quietly like that scientifically embarrassing non ice-age)

What is the benefit of simply believing it, or even of knowing about it? How does it make it different for those that 'know' from those in the jungle who never heard of it? Same planet, same future.

Rupe's media didn't cause it, and Greenie biased media won't stop it. We could worry about sunspots and rogue asteroids too but there wouldn't be a damned thing we could do about them either. It doesn't matter who believes what about it, no winners or losers because the 'prize' is going to be the same for all of us, and none of us will have a say in it.
We just argue for the fun of it. We three have been at it for years and none of us have changed near as much as the climate.
 
People with enough common sense to adapt to changes as needed will survive much better than those who sit and holler for the government to do something.
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Bingo!
That's part of the con, that government wants us to believe they are somehow in charge of it and we should throw ouself behind whatever brainsnap scheme they come up with to 'fix' it.
 
Bingo!
That's part of the con, that government wants us to believe they are somehow in charge of it and we should throw ouself behind whatever brainsnap scheme they come up with to 'fix' it.
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And yet 'the government' is dragging its collective feet attempting to do nothing as fast as it can.
 
This one is, because they're stopping to have a think about it. But the last Greenie propped up one one fair busted a gut to get stuck into slapping a tax on 'carbon' despite having promised not to. "The science" was 'in!' Remember?
So are we arguing climate or politics, or is it really the same thing?
 
But it was very half hearted. It lacked bite. Too many free carbon credits for a start and overly generous compensation for what turned out to be very small increases in costs.

I checked my latest electricity bill. Approximately $2 per week was due to carbon pricing for two people.
Even so, it was having an effect on CO2 emissions.

So are we arguing climate or politics, or is it really the same thing?
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Evidence ( from social scientists) suggests that it is really all about politics.
Real science has been largely sidelined.
 
Even so, it was having an effect on CO2 emissions.
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Which set of figures are you basing that one on? The per capita one that says we're spewing more out than China or the real one, the one that is something like (I don't 'do' figures) point zero zero 3 of 1% of global emissions? Who measured it? Tim Flannery?

Ni, ni.:eek:fftobed:
 
Sorry but if these so called scientists are so bright then why did they get suck in the ice in the first place?
Maybe they all should have stayed on that ship/water and wait for the raising oceans that they claim is going to happen,that should free the ship.
I would have stayed on, till the ice melts, from this so called raising climate changes thats going to take place.
I know,I know I'm just so tired of hearing about those poor brilliant scientists souls stuck in the ice.
 


Can't quite make out the name on the ship... something like 'Lukxry Junket'??
The ship in the Irony cartoon was the "How's my Driving?" luv cartoonists.

Well, at least ours is still afloat. We at least seem to be aware of our limitiations. We can send her back to 'rescue' the Chinese one and send them a bill too. They've hit the Russian one for costs.
We're likely to get more cash out of Russia and China than the UN is managing at present. Could be a nice little earner.

Why did the Chinese one hang around there long enough to get locked in anyway?
 
SeaBreeze said:
I heard the Chinese vessel that tried to help by breaking into the ice is now stuck in the ice.
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The Snow Dragon is definitely now stuck in the ice also, after sending the rescue helicopter to save the passengers on the Russian ship.
All the rescued passengers were flown to the Aurora, to be taken to Tasmania, but now that ship has also been told to stand by, because they may be needed to help rescue the Chinese ship.
I would not hesitate to guess that those global warming scientists will certainly be glad to get back into warmer climates, after this unexpected end to their research trip.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/...-stranded-antarctic-voyagers-now-stuck-in-ice
 
I'm thinking about the population of Casey Base, still waiting on their supplies aboard the Australis. OMG what if they run out of beer?

Russia would pay dearly for that!

Is the all star cast of this extravaganza; Russia, China, the US, and the GW gurus, with li'l us in supporting role, and a brief cameo appearance from France, turning it all into a delicisiously farcical p*ssing competition?

Ice-breakers at 10kms, the drama, the tension, the big macho horsepower comparisons, the irony, the comic relief, the plot twisting subterfuge of changing the names of the characters from 'scientists' to 'passengers' ... can it get any better than this? I for one am just LUVVIN it!
 
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