Updates: CDC tells officials to be ready for vaccine by November

Nathan said:
While my comment was not intended to be critical of yours, you seem to have taken it as such. I never said that I was comfortable getting the vaccine "before the completion and full analysis of phase 3 trials", but when the vaccine IS available(after clinical trials) rest assured that I will "knock myself out" and go get vaccinated.
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You said, "Despite the leadership problems and the big pharma influence I am going to get the Covid vaccine, when available."

Since you quoted my post in yours, I had to presume you were directing your response to me.

After the completion and full analysis of phase 3 trials, presuming they prove good efficacy and a very high degree of safety, I expect to get the vaccine.
 

Aunt Marg, every vaccine has its share of horror stories. It is unfortunate that some people have a very serious, sometimes fatal reaction, no matter which vaccine it is. But millions of others never get a disease that would have killed or crippled them.

About the Covid-19 vaccine, I think everyone is being way too optimistic about how soon we will have a reliable vaccine distributed to everyone. Even after they test it, and decide it's safe and effective, it will take months, if not years to manufacture and distribute it.
 

We need to pay attention to Dr. Fauci. He tells it straight - takes the latest scientific data into account. I will get a shot when I know the bugs are out of the covid 19 vaccine. Last night on the news those in the know said the soonest that would likely be is the middle of next year.
 
StarSong said:
Wait for it. The CDC members who were pressured into making this announcement will be scratching their heads at how many Americans refuse the vaccination for months. If not longer.

The very name "Operation Warp Speed Vaccine" so clearly identifies the objective. Speed at the cost of safety and effectiveness.

My trust for the US federal government has sunk to less than zero, less than neutral. Agencies that were designed to be autonomous are puppets dancing on strings. Like the queen of hearts, any perceived slight or difference in opinions leads to the battle cry, "Off with their heads!"

Big pharma is just as bad, if not worse. Their commitment is to money, money, money.

My personal vaccination decision will be heavily influenced by responses by leaders outside of Washington. And I'm not the only one.
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Ok, so instead of telling people there is a new vaccine and it's your choice to get it , they should not say a thing ?Damned if you do, Damned if you don't? If Trump tries to get a vaccine out quick he's accused of endandering people cuz the testing wasn't long enough, and if the vaccine is delayed to do more in depth testing, he's accused of not acting soon enough? smh
 
Phoenix said:
We need to pay attention to Dr. Fauci. He tells it straight - takes the latest scientific data into account. I will get a shot when I know the bugs are out of the covid 19 vaccine. Last night on the news those in the know said the soonest that would likely be is the middle of next year.
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And again. It should be YOUR choice to get the vaccine now, or wait like you want to. We need to have our OWN choice!
 
Ladybj,

I believe the way the flu vaccine is currently made is from dead virus or particularly piece of the virus, and years ago it was made from live virus. If I remember correctly there are less side effects from using the dead virus. Your husband may be at less risk of problems due to this change.

in the early '80's when I worked in a hospital we got free flu shots, and the first year it was a two parter. I developed a little rash and the dr suggested it could be the shot and I shouldn't risk the second injection--just in case. I usually do get a flu shot, but I haven't had any reactions since then. I can't recall when I learned about the change in how the vaccine was made, so I don't know if there is a connection.
 
Phoenix said:
Trust Fauci. There are a lot of things I could say here, but this is not to be a political site. Please stop making it one.
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Great. So, if Fauci says "The vaccine is now safe & effective & everyone should get it tomorrow," you should demonstrate your trust by being first in line.
 
911 said:
I still remember getting my shots when I entered the Marines. They never told us what they were for and no one asked. Don't you find that strange that no one asked what they were shooting into our arms?
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Haha I'm sure that it would have been appreciated by the boot camp medical staff. They'd have probably pulled me aside and used one of the discarded rusty needles along with a good kick in the a$$.
 
win231 said:
Great. So, if Fauci says "The vaccine is now safe & effective & everyone should get it tomorrow," you should demonstrate your trust by being first in line.
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Sure I would, Win! Don't we put our trust in medical professionals all the time? Who else's advice should I listen to as to when the vaccine is safe and effective?

Why the mistrust of Fauci? What wrong advice has he ever given us, to entitle lay people to shout him down, every time he offers his professional advice?
 
DaveA said:
Haha I'm sure that it would have been appreciated by the boot camp medical staff. They'd have probably pulled me aside and used one of the discarded rusty needles along with a good kick in the a$$.
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Yeah, all that was said to us was, “Alright you bunch of #%$#, get your asses in line.”
 
You may be oversimplifying it, Sunny. Fauci's only one voice. Some folks look right to the top. You have opinion of the the president, VP, governor of your state (if he's in your political party) and then to be really sure, the head of your local militia group.

Then, and only then, if you have unanimous approval you can at least consider taking the "shot". :D
 
win231 said:
Great. So, if Fauci says "The vaccine is now safe & effective & everyone should get it tomorrow," you should demonstrate your trust by being first in line.
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No. I would wait and see. We need to trust the science. He reports what the science says and corrects himself as new informaiton comes along, then is denegrated for being honest. We are currently in a political climate that tells us that all the institutions we've trusted for so long can't be trusted. All we have to do is check all over the news to find the truth and that truth does not come out of the mouth of the one who should tell us the truth during this crisis.
 
Don M. said:
It seems to me that a "cure" is being rushed in time to influence the upcoming elections. Personally, I won't trust any vaccine until it has been given to a major percentage of the population...Without a bunch of side effects. Staying close to home and wearing a mask is sometimes a PITA, but given all the nonsense surrounding this virus, and the past history of many of the drugs, such inconveniences are liveable, when considering the alternatives.
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YES, YES, and YESSSSSS!!!!!
 
Phoenix said:
No. I would wait and see. We need to trust the science. He reports what the science says and corrects himself as new informaiton comes along, then is denegrated for being honest. We are currently in a political climate that tells us that all the institutions we've trusted for so long can't be trusted. All we have to do is check all over the news to find the truth and that truth does not come out of the mouth of the one who should tell us the truth during this crisis.
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JMO but I highly doubt we will find the truth in the news. The writing is on the wall if we pay close attention.. again JMO. My mom taught me great lessons in life.. may she RIP.
 
Tonight on the news the pharmaceuticals who are working on the vaccines assured everyone they will honor the science and the results of the testing and not yield to the political pressure to get them out before the election. Apparently one of the study subjects had some bad complications from it. The true information is out there. We just have to be vigilant about looking for it. We need to know the orientation of the one giving the news, and if they constantly lie, which is very apparent when we check, then we know better than to believe them.
 
Phoenix said:
Tonight on the news the pharmaceuticals who are working on the vaccines assured everyone they will honor the science and the results of the testing and not yield to the political pressure to get them out before the election. Apparently one of the study subjects had some bad complications from it. The true information is out there. We just have to be vigilant about looking for it. We need to know the orientation of the one giving the news, and if they constantly lie, which is very apparent when we check, then we know better than to believe them.
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Good luck in finding TRUE info. It's like a needle in a haystack.
 
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