US blocks UN Security Council demand for humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza

Paco Dennis

SF VIP
Location
Mid-Missouri
It is time now to speak out against the relentless destruction of the Palestinian people and their culture. At least give it a break so help can arrive. Enough is enough.

UNITED NATIONS, Dec 8 (Reuters) - The United States on Friday vetoed a proposed United Nations Security Council demand for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in the war between Israel and Palestinian militant group Hamas in Gaza, diplomatically isolating Washington as it shields its ally.

Thirteen other members voted in favor of a brief draft resolution, put forward by the United Arab Emirates, while Britain abstained. The vote came after U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres made a rare move on Wednesday to formally warn the 15-member council of a global threat from the two-month long war.


"What is the message we are sending Palestinians if we cannot unite behind a call to halt the relentless bombardment of Gaza?" Deputy UAE U.N. Ambassador Mohamed Abushahab asked the council. "Indeed, what is the message we are sending civilians across the world who may find themselves in similar situations?"

The United States and Israel oppose a ceasefire because they believe it would only benefit Hamas. Washington instead supports pauses in fighting to protect civilians and allow the release of hostages taken by Hamas in a deadly Oct. 7 attack on Israel.


Deputy U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Robert Wood told the council that the draft resolution was a rushed, imbalanced text "that was divorced from reality, that would not move the needle forward on the ground in any concrete way."

"We do not support this resolution's call for an unsustainable ceasefire that will only plant the seeds for the next war," said Wood.

The U.S. had offered substantial amendments to the draft, including a condemnation of the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks that Israel says killed 1,200 people and in which 240 people were taken hostage.


Britain's U.N. Ambassador Barbara Woodward said her country abstained because there was no condemnation of Hamas.

"Israel needs to be able to address the threat posed by Hamas and it needs to do so in a manner that abides by international humanitarian law so that such an attack can never be carried out again," she told the council.

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres attends a United Nations Security Council meeting












[1/6]United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres attends a United Nations Security Council meeting about his invoking Article 99 of the United Nations charter to address the humanitarian crisis in the midst of conflict between Israel and the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas at the UN... Acquire Licensing Rights Read more

'HUMAN PINBALLS'

Palestinian U.N. envoy Riyad Mansour told the council the result of the vote was "disastrous," adding: "Millions of Palestinian lives hang in the balance. Every single one of them is sacred, worth saving."


Israel's U.N. Ambassador Gilad Erdan did not address the Security Council after the vote, but in a statement said: "A ceasefire will be possible only with the return of all the hostages and the destruction of Hamas."

The United States favors its own diplomacy over Security Council action to win the release of more hostages and press Israel to better protect civilians in Gaza as it retaliates against Hamas.

However, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken acknowledged on Thursday that there was a "gap" between Israel's intent to protect civilians and what has happened on the ground. Gaza's Health Ministry says more than 17,480 people have been killed.

Israel has bombarded Gaza from the air, imposed a siege and launched a ground offensive. The vast majority of the Palestinian enclave's 2.3 million people have been driven from their homes.

"There is no effective protection of civilians," Guterres told the council earlier on Friday. "The people of Gaza are being told to move like human pinballs – ricocheting between ever-smaller slivers of the south, without any of the basics for survival. But nowhere in Gaza is safe."

A seven-day pause - during which Hamas released some hostages and there was an increase in badly needed humanitarian aid to Gaza - ended on Dec. 1.

After several failed attempts to take action, the Security Council last month called for pauses in fighting to allow aid access to Gaza, which Guterres on Friday described as a "spiraling humanitarian nightmare."


US blocks UN Security Council demand for humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza
 

I can barely turn on the news anymore because it’s heartbreaking seeing all the dead and injured civilians especially the children. They have nowhere to go and are basically trying to not get killed on a daily basis.

. They will all have PTSD if they survive. Illness is spreading and they are also starving and living in inhumane conditions. Over 17k civilians are dead. I am sick that our country isn’t supporting a ceasefire.
 
Guess they shouldn’t have started this, huh? Did you feel the same after 9/11? The IDF just found a terrorist cell in a tunnel UNDERNEATH A GRADE SCHOOL. The entrance was in a classroom. The scum that is radical Islam and the scum that support them need to be eradicated.
 

Your bombardment of thread after thread speaks volumes Paco. I am reviewing my opinion of your motives & intent. In the meantime, why not call for Freeing the Hostages and Letting My People Go. Then I might start responding to you again. Throw in some rape criticism while you're at it.

Yes, I love and care for Rwandans and Bangla Deshi's and everyone, Palestinians included. I was speaking of the Holocaust's impact on OUR society, Western Society, and the make up of this forum. There are no Rwandans here. Your flip attitude of sharing data not called for, and denying the impact of the European Holocaust has caused you to lose sincerity in my eyes. Basically, I've had it with you.

At least until the End of Chanukah. I'd like to enjoy something for a change. I've earned it.
 
Your bombardment of thread after thread speaks volumes Paco. I am reviewing my opinion of your motives & intent. In the meantime, why not call for Freeing the Hostages and Letting My People Go. Then I might start responding to you again. Throw in some rape criticism while you're at it.

Yes, I love and care for Rwandans and Bangla Deshi's and everyone, Palestinians included. I was speaking of the Holocaust's impact on OUR society, Western Society, and the make up of this forum. There are no Rwandans here. Your flip attitude of sharing data not called for, and denying the impact of the European Holocaust has caused you to lose sincerity in my eyes. Basically, I've had it with you.

At least until the End of Chanukah. I'd like to enjoy something for a change. I've earned it.
There are some things that the best of friends disagree upon. I know the extent of Arab terrorist savagery and condemn it. I have spoken of rape as being an act of horror and a war crime.

I have no personal stake in this conflict. I see it as a turning point in world domination power. I also see the occupation now as a concentration camp...not even a prison, where prisnors are takin care of. The continual destruction of Palestine is historic in proportion. I think this continued onslaught will not bring lasting peace, but more revenge killing.

When most of the world knows the history and feels this slaughter needs to stop now, and the handful of those who support the total elimination of Hamas, is the rest of the world uncaring and ignorant? Millions of competent people condemn Hamas and all terrorist behavior AND want the bombing to cease, for good. I am sure u can understand that.?
Ing
 
Why is it I feel like I have died and am standing at the pearly gates. God judges my moral character on one issue. Did you want the total destruction of Hamas? That is absurd.
 
I also see the occupation now as a concentration camp...not even a prison, where prisnors are takin care of. The continual destruction of Palestine is historic in proportion.
Do you not see that Hamas is doing that? ...to their own people.

And you don't seem to understand that Hamas will not stop, and believe they cannot stop, until Israel is annihilated. A ceasefire won't change that. The same as the situation in Ukraine: Russia would use a ceasefire period to rebuild and rearm its military, come up with better strategies, and attack again even if it took 5 years or more.
 
Why is it I feel like I have died and am standing at the pearly gates. God judges my moral character on one issue. Did you want the total destruction of Hamas? That is absurd.
The ONLY solution is the total destruction of Hamas, and all of its supporters. To believe otherwise is absurd.

btw, If you really are a Buddhist then you don't believe in God. o_Os

Or pearly gates....
 
Do you not see that Hamas is doing that? ...to their own people.

And you don't seem to understand that Hamas will not stop, and believe they cannot stop, until Israel is annihilated. A ceasefire won't change that. The same as the situation in Ukraine: Russia would use a ceasefire period to rebuild and rearm its military, come up with better strategies, and attack again even if it took 5 years or more.
Yes, I know of this narrative. I am not convinced that is what will happen. I am pretty sure that there is going to be revenge in the works for this slaughtering though. The mass majority of Palestinians are for peace not war. I don't agree that all Palestians need to punished for the crimes of a few.

Also war cimes are being committed by both sides. They are to be condemned. Why do I not here the condemnation of killing too many innocent women and children, in numbers that far exceed Oct. 7th?
 
Yes, I know of this narrative. I am not convinced that is what will happen. I am pretty sure that there is going to be revenge in the works for this slaughtering though. The mass majority of Palestinians are for peace not war. I don't agree that all Palestians need to punished for the crimes of a few.

Also war cimes are being committed by both sides. They are to be condemned. Why do I not here the condemnation of killing too many innocent women and children, in numbers that far exceed Oct. 7th?
Those condemnations are out there, but maybe you don't hear much about it because the reports are unconfirmed.

There are confirmed reports that the IDF offered women, children, and the elderly and disabled an escape route, but Hamas stopped as many escapees as they could, often with warning shots, sometimes actually shooting and killing them.

I don't think many people believe that ALL Palestinians should be punished for the crimes of their Hamas government. I believe most people understand that would be the same as punishing all Americans for their president's mistakes and poor decisions from the Pentagon, the CIA, Homeland Security, etc..
 
Those condemnations are out there, but maybe you don't hear much about it because the reports are unconfirmed.

There are confirmed reports that the IDF offered women, children, and the elderly and disabled an escape route, but Hamas stopped as many escapees as they could, often with warning shots, sometimes actually shooting and killing them.

I don't think many people believe that ALL Palestinians should be punished for the crimes of their Hamas government. I believe most people understand that would be the same as punishing all Americans for their president's mistakes and poor decisions from the Pentagon, the CIA, Homeland Security, etc..
I can't understand this meme of "if your not with us your against us". It is silly. Many millions of people want a ceasefire, and don't have an anti-semetic bone in their body. Me too.
 
I can't understand this meme of "if your not with us your against us". It is silly. Many millions of people want a ceasefire, and don't have an anti-semetic bone in their body. Me too.
Personally, I think Hamas would only take advantage of a ceasefire, just as Putin would....use the time to acquire more missiles and bullets and armed drones and copters and other killing stuff.
 
I think Israel should offer a ceasefire to get all the hostages back if hamas agrees of course. I am wondering when Israel has decided that they have killed all of Hamas. What are the parameters or are they just going to kill everyone. Who’s going to pay for and rebuild Gaza? I guess if they kill everyone there’s no need to rebuild.

I don’t know how anyone can not watch the news and not feel sick at the sight of all the dead and injured children. The poor hostages are going to have PTSD for life if they survive. There’s definitely no winners in this war.
 
Personally, I think Hamas would only take advantage of a ceasefire, just as Putin would....use the time to acquire more missiles and bullets and armed drones and copters and other killing stuff.
I think a lot of the problem with so many people not understanding the implications of what *would* (not "might") happen if Hamas is given time to regroup... is that no one "normal" has the capability to think like a terrorist. But I will admit that it always surprises me that history is so often forgotten... and thus doomed to be repeated.
 
I don’t know how anyone can not watch the news and not feel sick at the sight of all the dead and injured children. The poor hostages are going to have PTSD for life if they survive. There’s definitely no winners in this war.
Many of those photos of "dead people" have been proven to be set up (with live models) and used as propaganda, by the way. Not sure if you realized that.
 
Last edited:
Many of those photos of "dead people" have been proven to be set up (with live models) and used as propaganda, by the way. Not sure if you realized that. Just one case in point reported:
The image of a person wrapped in a white cloth, dressed like a corpse while using their phone is viral online with the false claim that it shows people in Gaza faking their deaths to inflate the Palestinian death toll in the region.BOOM found that the claims are false and the photo is from a Halloween party in Thailand in 2022 and is unrelated to the Israel-Hamas conflict.
If that was true the reporters that are there would be mentioning it. So is the end game total annihilation of every Palestian?
 
If that was true the reporters that are there would be mentioning it. So is the end game total annihilation of every Palestine?
Yes, I pasted the wrong link... the one that explains what they're doing is from Forbes and I can't paste it because you need an account... but I'm looking for more. You don't think Hamas would do that for propaganda?
 
Yes, I pasted the wrong link... the one that explains what they're doing is from Forbes and I can't paste it because you need an account... but I'm looking for more. You don't think Hamas would do that for propaganda?
No one seems to want to answer the question of once the hostages are released when will the war end. What are the requirements that will satisfy Israel and some of the people on this board that think the war should continue???
 
No one seems to want to answer the question of once the hostages are released when will the war end. What are the requirements that will satisfy Israel and some of the people on this board that think the war should continue???
I don't know, Terry. Maybe when there's no longer a terrorist group that has vowed not to stop until all Jews are dead. And also said October was a dress rehearsal. Hopefully someone is more knowledgeable here to answer your question.
 
No one seems to want to answer the question of once the hostages are released when will the war end. What are the requirements that will satisfy Israel and some of the people on this board that think the war should continue???
Israel seems pretty certain that aggression from Gaza won't end until Hamas is eliminated, and that getting the hostages back won't change that.
 
Israel seems pretty certain that aggression from Gaza won't end until Hamas is eliminated, and that getting the hostages back won't change that.
So since you can’t tell a hamas member from a civilian I guess that means they intend to kill every adult there? I hope that the rest of the world objects before that happens.
 

Back
Top