Vaccine is amazingly effective!

[charry]

I just thing there will be terrible after affects in years to come, especially on the younger generation.........it takes years in development and approving vaccines , it’s a long process, normally about 10 to 15 years......
Just my opinion Alligatorob

 

[charry]

I heard that one of the side effects that may not show up until years after being vaccinated is living not only a longer life but also living a life with fewer aches and pains in it. I wish I could share the article link with you but I can't remember where I saw it.

I guess that we might just have to wait years and years to find out for sure but for right now it seems to be working pretty well at preventing the spread of infection than before there was a vaccine. I, for one, think that that presently is rem

Have you had the jabs ? Any reactions from it ?

 

[charry]

I heard that one of the side effects that may not show up until years after being vaccinated is living not only a longer life but also living a life with fewer aches and pains in it. I wish I could share the article link with you but I can't remember where I saw it.

I guess that we might just have to wait years and years to find out for sure but for right now it seems to be working pretty well at preventing the spread of infection than before there was a vaccine. I, for one, think that that presently is remarkable.

Having the jabs havnt prevented the spread of infection , people are still getting covid and passing it on and still dying in hospital, And they have had the JABS !

 

[charry]

 

[squatting dog]

Ever wonder why some of us question the "experts"?
Let's start with the CDC director Rochelle Walensky.

In mid May, Walensky said vaccinated Americans were protected and no longer need to mask or maintain social distance in many indoor and outdoor settings.

But now, a third booster shot is being floated, and that's not sitting well with many people. So, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is using fear to convince people to get the third Covid shot.

Walensky on Wednesday said that people who received the Covid vaccine early on are at an increased risk for severe disease.

Walensky continued, “Reports from our international colleagues, including Israel, suggest increased risk of SEVERE disease amongst those VACCINATED EARLY.”

Walensky said the only way out is to get the Covid booster.

So, now people who took the jab too early are being told they are super spreaders, which begs the question...when will the 4th Covid shot be rolled out, or the 5th etc.

 

[Chris P Bacon]

Have you had the jabs ? Any reactions from it ?

Yes ma'am, I was injected April 2nd and again on April 30th, this year. I also was infected with the virus earlier in the year, mid-February.

My reaction to it so far is that I haven't been re-infected, that I've noticed or been told.

 

[Tom 86]

"Don M"
They did have hydroxychloroquine & zinc tablets to treat people. in the beginning, & they got just a little sick like the flu. Then the big drug manufacturers went to the government & said no do not use this we are making a vaccine. This is per my P.C. Dr.

This I know for a fact as this is what my P.C. Dr. gave me when I saw him a month after getting out of the hospital. He said your lungs still look like popcorn so I'm going to prescribe the hydroxychloroquine & zinc tablets for you as most Dr's knows this works but the government has our hands tied to not use it.

He said I don't always follow what the Government says, I know what works.

 

[Chris P Bacon]

Having the jabs havnt prevented the spread of infection , people are still getting covid and passing it on and still dying in hospital, And they have had the JABS !

Yes ma'am, you're right. The spread of the virus hasn't been prevented, however the rate of spread has been slowed considerably so since vaccines became available. People do still get Covid, quite correct and many who do haven't been vaccinated at all. Some others do also get infected who did have the vaccination. But the vaccines were developed lasat year before these Covid variants began to spread. The vaccines were designed with the knowledge of the virus that was available at the time. I suspect that knowledge of the way the virus works, spreads and might be controlled changes on a daily, if not hourly basis. It is a worldwide problem, you know.

Since more unvaccinated people are being infected NOW, the disease is mostly being passed on by those who choose to or have to remain unvaccinated. Yes, some who were vaccinated do become infected and may pass it on as well but these people became infected because they mostly were vaccinated with a vaccine that didn't take into account the variants that have become prevalent since the first vaccines were developed and distributed. That's why the need for boosters, to take into account for these new variants that are infecting people both jabbed and not jabbed. But given enough time for the hesitant to still not be vaccinated, there likely will be more variants of which the original and any boosters now being developed may not protect against. These are just regular vaccines. They don't figure out what variants may be yet to happen.

Those vaccinated do seem to have less severe symptoms and than their non-vaccinated counterparts. There also are fewer deaths among those who are infected after being vaccinated than among those who remain un-vaccinated. It's possible that 20 years down the road, something could appear that would be related to these vaccines but how many more people will become infected and die during that time due to the disease infecting anyone it can because it was never able to be eradicated because of people's fears. And how many of us in our senior years will be alive 20 years from now? Lots of people don't live to be 60 let alone the ones who live to be 80, 90 or even longer. But if infected, some people will die. Not all of them will be older and not all of them will be young either. But people are dying because of this disease. Our world was better off before it appeared and our world will be better off again, once it's under control. I believe vaccines help for that.

 

[Irwin]

That's exactly right. It's also the primary reason for vaccine reluctance. That, and the description of the mRna (in the vaccine) as an enzyme that converts a gene. Something that "alters your genes" is scary. And it sounds permanent.

Only it doesn't "alter a gene." It doesn't affect or interact with our DNA in any way.

mRNA never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA (genetic material) is kept.​

The cell breaks down and gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished using the instructions.​

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html​

 

[Chris P Bacon]

Ever wonder why some of us question the "experts"?
Let's start with the CDC director Rochelle Walensky.

In mid May, Walensky said vaccinated Americans were protected and no longer need to mask or maintain social distance in many indoor and outdoor settings.

But now, a third booster shot is being floated, and that's not sitting well with many people. So, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is using fear to convince people to get the third Covid shot.

Walensky on Wednesday said that people who received the Covid vaccine early on are at an increased risk for severe disease.

Walensky continued, “Reports from our international colleagues, including Israel, suggest increased risk of SEVERE disease amongst those VACCINATED EARLY.”

Walensky said the only way out is to get the Covid booster.

So, now people who took the jab too early are being told they are super spreaders, which begs the question...when will the 4th Covid shot be rolled out, or the 5th etc.

As long as the virus can keep mutating, you're right, there may be a need for more boosters. These vaccines aren't like smart phones, they don't have AI to update them selves. Until everyone is either vaccinated or enough have developed imminity then more vaccines may be necessary. But these booster are developed on an even shorter time frame than the original vaccines were. People were wary because they thought the original vaccines were developed and released too quickly but with these variants, speed is of the essence. Not just to protect the vaccination willing but to also try to corral the spread of those being infected because they refuse to be vaccinated.

As long as people take a wait and see attitude or refuse the vaccine, it will be a part of the lives of all of us around the world. If enough people get vaccinated or if enough people develop immunity for contracting covid then maybe it will be under control. But as long as there is a single Covid cell out there it could be mutating into another variant more infectuous and possibly more deadly than the last.

I'm vaccinated and I'll get a booster when one becomes available. I had covid once, before I was vaccinated but I haven't had it since. To me, I think that's because I chose vaccination rather than argumentation. Good luck with whatever decision you make.

 

[Chris P Bacon]

I just thing there will be terrible after affects in years to come, especially on the younger generation.........it takes years in development and approving vaccines , it’s a long process, normally about 10 to 15 years......
Just my opinion Alligatorob

But it doesn't take years for the virus to develop new and better ways of infecting the current population. It may be mutating right now as we type and read.

 

[Tish]

Thanks for the share Sunny!

 

[Chris P Bacon]

"Don M"
They did have hydroxychloroquine & zinc tablets to treat people. in the beginning, & they got just a little sick like the flu. Then the big drug manufacturers went to the government & said no do not use this we are making a vaccine. This is per my P.C. Dr.

This I know for a fact as this is what my P.C. Dr. gave me when I saw him a month after getting out of the hospital. He said your lungs still look like popcorn so I'm going to prescribe the hydroxychloroquine & zinc tablets for you as most Dr's knows this works but the government has our hands tied to not use it.

He said I don't always follow what the Government says, I know what works.

I see lots of people who don't follow what the government says. They fly by me on the freeways even if im a few miles over the government imposed speed limit. Crooks and criminals don't always follow what the government says either. Many of them flout many of the laws that the government has put in place for our well being. I'm happy that your doc knows so much and that you have such trust in him but did you ever think of this - Not every doctor that graduates med school, graduates at the top of the class.

Then too I know that you had health issues when you were vaccinated. You tried to do what you thought to be the right thing but it might have killed you. I'm glad that it didn't and I hope that none of these current or possibly yet to come variants will either. You just keep on having those birthdays, year after year and all will be fine.

 

[Chris P Bacon]

Maybe if we could get all of these reasons for people being hesitant or refusing to be vaccinated put on CNN as "true and factual" those people who seem to believe that whatever is reported on CNN to be lies, they'd stop believing as they currently do just because it's on CNN. Reverse psychology maybe?

 

[Murrmurr]

I see the schedule young people on from infancy through teens for vaxxes and it's outlandish. Maybe one vax won't adversely affect a person but dozens might. Same for adults especially with other conditions, medications and general health. Vaxxes or the disease are an attack on the body, the body just like a country can only fight so many wars.

Yeah, that's worrisome. And, imo, a profit scheme.

 

[Murrmurr]

"Don M"
They did have hydroxychloroquine & zinc tablets to treat people. in the beginning, & they got just a little sick like the flu. Then the big drug manufacturers went to the government & said no do not use this we are making a vaccine. This is per my P.C. Dr.

This I know for a fact as this is what my P.C. Dr. gave me when I saw him a month after getting out of the hospital. He said your lungs still look like popcorn so I'm going to prescribe the hydroxychloroquine & zinc tablets for you as most Dr's knows this works but the government has our hands tied to not use it.

He said I don't always follow what the Government says, I know what works.

Good point. There are other available drugs, too, that have been studied multiple times and proved effective at preventing severe symptoms and hospitalization. Even so, these drugs and/or the studies keep getting discredited, doctors are being told not to include them in treatment protocol, and pharmacies are being cut off from the supplies and getting majorly hassled when they try to fill Rx's for these drugs.

 

[Chris P Bacon]

I just thing there will be terrible after affects in years to come, especially on the younger generation.........it takes years in development and approving vaccines , it’s a long process, normally about 10 to 15 years......
Just my opinion Alligatorob

Charry, what do you suppose the side effects may be, 15-20 years down the road, for people who are infected with Covid today? I'm not sure that anyone knows that even if someone gets infected but recovers, what the long term effect will be for them. I think that anything that can be done to stop the progression NOW is worth the risk of what MIGHT or MIGHT NOT happen in 15-20 years. Other technologies and sciences will be developed in the meantime that people can think twice about or refuse by then I imagine, so maybe they'll be able to deal with any negative consequences if they develop or won't need to should none appear.

 

[win231]

Yes ma'am, I was injected April 2nd and again on April 30th, this year. I also was infected with the virus earlier in the year, mid-February.

My reaction to it so far is that I haven't been re-infected, that I've noticed or been told.

Much like people who got a flu shot saying, "I haven't had the flu for 5 years.
People tend to credit whatever they did or didn't do for a good result.
But I've never had a flu shot & I had the flu once - 39 years ago & never since, even after caring for family & friends with the flu & being exposed at work.

 

[CarolfromTX]

I believe this, which is why I’m over wearing a mask. Could I have a breakthrough case? Possibly. But having to go back to mask wearing will not be good for my mental well being. At all. So I’ll take my chances, thanks.

 

[Brookswood]

I see the schedule young people on from infancy through teens for vaxxes and it's outlandish. Maybe one vax won't adversely affect a person but dozens might. Same for adults especially with other conditions, medications and general health. Vaxxes or the disease are an attack on the body, the body just like a country can only fight so many wars.

This does not make sense to me.

There are many different types of viruses, bacteria and parasites that attack our bodies every year. I would think that even a few dozen vaccine shots is a very small number compared to all the things out in the world that attack us and try to bring us down. Fortunately, our bodies resist most quite well. When they can't or when the consequences of getting sick are very bad, vaccines can help us build our defenses.

 

[Chris P Bacon]

Yeah, that's worrisome. And, imo, a profit scheme.

But profit isn't a dirty word is it? Isn't that what capitalism is all about? These companies making the vaccines aren't charities, after all.

 

[win231]

Ever wonder why some of us question the "experts"?
Let's start with the CDC director Rochelle Walensky.

In mid May, Walensky said vaccinated Americans were protected and no longer need to mask or maintain social distance in many indoor and outdoor settings.

But now, a third booster shot is being floated, and that's not sitting well with many people. So, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is using fear to convince people to get the third Covid shot.

Walensky on Wednesday said that people who received the Covid vaccine early on are at an increased risk for severe disease.

Walensky continued, “Reports from our international colleagues, including Israel, suggest increased risk of SEVERE disease amongst those VACCINATED EARLY.”

Walensky said the only way out is to get the Covid booster.

So, now people who took the jab too early are being told they are super spreaders, which begs the question...when will the 4th Covid shot be rolled out, or the 5th etc.

Such logic is sure to cause the non thinkers & the "I'll take any vaccine or drug I'm told to take" crowd to bury their heads in the sand.

 

[win231]

But profit isn't a dirty word is it? Isn't that what capitalism is all about? These companies making the vaccines aren't charities, after all.

No, nothing wrong with profit....unless the product they're profiting from negatively affects health.

 

[Brookswood]

60% of my state is now fully vaccinated. About 70% in my city. Not bad.

 

[win231]

Thanks for the link, but I understand those who don't believe CNN on things like this. I am not sure they are lying, but they do not do a good job of presenting actually useful information. They prefer the dramatic headline to real news... I don't trust Fox or most of the other news outlets either.

One problem in this article is the claim that "99.999% of fully vaccinated Americans have not had a deadly Covid-19 breakthrough case", that just seems too high to believe. However even if the number were lower it would be an important fact, we need reliable information. To CNN's credit they do show some statistics to defend the claim, 1,263 deaths out of a vaccinated population of 163,000,000 is in fact a death rate of 0.00077%, suggesting that 99.999% of the vaccinated don't die. However without knowing the % of the unvaccinated population that die its not a very useful statistic. Even assuming CNN's numbers are right, and they may be, they fail in not putting them into useful perspective.

That low number does not seem to jive with the anecdotal stories we hear, and not just from the news media. I do know one man who died of Covid after getting two shots, and have heard claims of a lot more. 0.00077% is up there with the number of big $ lottery winners, and I don't know many of those. I believe good statistics more than the anecdotal stories, problem is I am not sure how good these statistics are. At least the one man I knew did die after being inoculated, that I am pretty sure of.

This is important and we need to get it right. I do think folks ought to get vaccinated, even with the mixed bag of information we now have, I am. But I can understand with such confusing "information" why some are hesitant. I believe better more reliable data and information would result in more people making informed decisions, better decisions.

They need to change that silly "99.99%" number. It only works for people who have brains like sponges - that soak up everything sold to them.
That number is used for everything - "This spray cleaner kills 99.99% of germs & viruses, including Covid."