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The NY/SE ..... takes an 8 minute 46 second "moment" of silence , to George Floyd ...... a drug addicted Ex-con.!

Un freakin' believable !
 

This tribute and those similar around the world were never about the man ...... they were about the inhumane way that he died.

And it's un freakin' believable that anyone of even average intelligence would not understand that.
 
gennie said:
This tribute and those similar around the world were never about the man ...... they were about the inhumane way that he died.

And it's un freakin' believable that anyone of even average intelligence would not understand that.
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He was a drug addicted ex-con, street thug.

If it were about an issue , involving arrest , it should have been stated in that manner.

And here again, your reply ...... is more targeted toward insulting me .... than addressing the issue.
 

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I never personally knew George Floyd. But I don't believe any human being is "always" this, or that. Whatever Floyd's history was does not justify his being strangled to death under the knee of Derek Chauvin. No matter what kind of life Floyd lived does not excuse Chauvin from continuing to kneel on Floyd for three more minutes after Floyd was unresponsive, and posed no possible threat to anyone. Being a Minneapolis cop is not a license to kill. To those, who want to dismiss Floyd's death, would they be as willing to pooh pooh it, if Floyd knelt on Chauvin, and squeezed the life out of him? The video of Floyd's death is stark. There's no "he got a gun", there's no who shot who first. Floyd is cuffed, unarmed, and on the ground. And he was arrested for suspicion of passing counterfeit money- a non violent crime. While the video offers no racist factors, the symbolism of a white cop kneeling on the throat of a black man is hard to deny. The video has ignited a world wide condemnation , and protest., unfortunately the video shows one man killing another. At best, the video is one of rogue police abuse. While some may want to canonize Floyd, or Chauvin, this is a sad time, and no time for saints.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Moot point, and a shallow way of thinking.

I agree with Gennie, in that you, RGP, are grossly out of touch with reality.
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Certainly, because I do not agree with you ? ...right ?

And again ..... another reply that is aimed more at me, in an insulting way, as opposed to addressing the issue.
 
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rgp said:
Certainly, because I do not agree with you ? ...right ?

And again ..... another reply that is aimed more at me, in an insulting way, as opposed to addressing the issue.
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Quite your blubbering, the truth is the truth, and if it hurts you that bad, you should forego starting topics such as this where you know (full well) that you're going to be met with words.
 
rgp said:
The NY/SE ..... takes an 8 minute 46 second "moment" of silence , to George Floyd ...... a drug addicted Ex-con.!

Un freakin' believable !
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I don't judge people like some others do on this forum. I understand your frustration after watching bits and pieces of all the TV that his death and funeral were given. But, it's not Floyd's fault that the networks decided to give him so much airtime. So, to blame him is probably not a good thing to do. It's really not about George Floyd anyway, but the situation in which he died and also the ongoing mess with white cops killing black men with little to no reason.

George's life didn't turn bad until after high school where he was a standout football player. While in college, he got hooked on drugs. To afford his habit, he had to steal and even did a home invasion, which landed him in prison for a 4-year stretch. After his release, he hooked up with a church group to mentor young men on the use of drugs and crime. He also started an anti gun program directed at people in his community.

George also tried the art of performing rap at local clubs, but couldn't make a living off of it, so he turned to driving truck and being a bouncer. He lost his jobs due to the COVID-19 virus. He was turning his life around when the virus struck. He had five known children, was 6'4" and was know as "Perry" to his friends, who all stated that he was a gentle giant.

I have spoken to many blacks about this whole mess that we have to watch day in and day out and many of them also are frustrated and wish everyone would tone it down a bit. To my surprise, in mixed company last evening, the black guys weren't very happy with Oprah trying to jump on the train as one put it. The other black man that was with us asked where was Obama the last 8 years? He never once spoke about racism, except for the Trayvon Martin case. After that, nothing.

Don't get me wrong, not all of my black friends are talking against the BLM movement. Some are good with it and have given some good input as to how blacks and whites can get along better. Personally, being in the military for most of my life, I don't see color when I speak to people. It has become a way of life to just treat everyone the same or as you want to be treated. But, the people that I hang with, both white and black are not rioters, anarchists or supremacists.

I think we all need to keep our emotions in check and to be nice to one another. Stop this bickering and making personal attacks. Why are we so angry? Let's all work on just getting along. If someone writes something that we don't agree with or that irritates us, we don't need to snap back with a better gotcha'.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Quite your blubbering, C and if it hurts you that bad, you should forego starting topics such as this where you know (full well) that you're going to be met with words.
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LOL ... Blubbering? Go look in the mirror .

"the truth is the truth "

Exactly .... And the truth is, the tribute should have never taken place ...... period.
 
RGP The point is the way this man died. The video is clear, the time line is clear, the end result of the police action is clear.

What isn't clear is, did George Floyd pass the counterfeit $20.00 because he never made it to court. The store owner accused him but an accusation doesn't automatically prove guilt.

No one disputes his past history, just as no one can dispute that the police officer was judge, jury & executioner.

IMO the tribute was more about recognizing the wrong that the black community has been experiencing over the years than George Floyd. I think he is the symbol of injustice
 
Knight said:
RGP The point is the way this man died. The video is clear, the time line is clear, the end result of the police action is clear.

What isn't clear is, did George Floyd pass the counterfeit $20.00 because he never made it to court. The store owner accused him but an accusation doesn't automatically prove guilt.

No one disputes his past history, just as no one can dispute that the police officer was judge, jury & executioner.

IMO the tribute was more about recognizing the wrong that the black community has been experiencing over the years than George Floyd. I think he is the symbol of injustice
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Well said, Knight.
 
Knight said:
RGP The point is the way this man died. The video is clear, the time line is clear, the end result of the police action is clear.

What isn't clear is, did George Floyd pass the counterfeit $20.00 because he never made it to court. The store owner accused him but an accusation doesn't automatically prove guilt.

No one disputes his past history, just as no one can dispute that the police officer was judge, jury & executioner.

IMO the tribute was more about recognizing the wrong that the black community has been experiencing over the years than George Floyd. I think he is the symbol of injustice
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"IMO the tribute was more about recognizing the wrong that the black community has been experiencing over the years than George Floyd. I think he is the symbol of injustice"

Well, I respectfully disagree. The tribute should have never been made in his name.

He was the symbol of criminal thuggery nothing more.
 
rgp said:
"IMO the tribute was more about recognizing the wrong that the black community has been experiencing over the years than George Floyd. I think he is the symbol of injustice"

Well, I respectfully disagree. The tribute should have never been made in his name.

He was the symbol of criminal thuggery nothing more.
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History puts a name, face, statue or some symbol of recognition to what brought about change. I think Mr. Floyd even though he had a criminal history will be a catalyst for change going forward. How long or what form that change will be can't be known today or next week. It will take time.
 

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