We need to re-think the concept of college

[Nathan]

A comment which shows that you know absolutely nothing about "today's right wing thought."

I knew that someone would come along and attempt to "correct" my statement with their own words, although you basically have said the same thing.

However, Try this on for size: You know absolutely nothing about what I know, and what my life's experiences and observations have been, but yet attempt to brand my words.

Oh wait, here's another reactionary comment:

What rot. And pretty snobbish, if you ask me. .

You are entitled to your own opinion, sometimes the truth is uncomfortable when doesn't fit one's rose colored vision.

 

[CarolfromTX]

You are entitled to your own opinion, sometimes the truth is uncomfortable when doesn't fit one's rose colored vision.

Something you’d know all about.

 

[Nathan]

What did you study where you had to "bend to the thinking of extreme leftist professors?"

I took a graduate level political science class as an elective where the professor was far left. I had disagreements with him during some of the classes and he came down pretty hard on me. I ran into him in the hallway the next semester and he actually apologized to me for doing that. Looking back, I recognize that I really had no idea what I was talking about. That was when the Internet was still in its infancy and we still had to read books. And these were graduate level political science students and I was an undergrad computer science student, and it was the first political science class I ever took. I guess I held my own to some extent because I got an "A." There were no tests in the class and our grades were based purely on essays and research papers, which is easy.

So, even though I was a staunch conservative back then and was registered Republican, I didn't feel the need to bend to anybody's thinking. Maybe that's something I should write about in the thread where people are posting things that nobody would guess about them.

I had a very similar experience, was also a staunch conservative back then, taking a graduate level poly sci class. The professor was the president of the local chapter of the ACLU, so he was relatively to the Left on major issues. I had to work harder to defend my view, as I was not about to adopt his, just to get a better grade.

 

[Nathan]

Something you’d know all about.

You are correct, I have the ability to change my view when the evidence is counter to what my beliefs hold to be true, that is called the Scientific Method, which I would recommend that my Right leaning, science bashing colleagues take some time to read up on.

 

[JimBob1952]

I knew that someone would come along and attempt to "correct" my statement with their own words, although you basically have said the same thing.

However, Try this on for size: You know absolutely nothing about what I know, and what my life's experiences and observations have been, but yet attempt to brand my words.

Oh wait, here's another reactionary comment:

You are entitled to your own opinion, sometimes the truth is uncomfortable when doesn't fit one's rose colored vision.

And that's why we have an "ignore" button. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on your derriere.

 

[Nathan]

And that's why we have an "ignore" button. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on your derriere.

You don't have any qualifications to make that statement, being clueless as you apparently are.

 

[Don M.]

Many of the colleges have become like our heath care "industry", where the money they bring in is their highest "priority".

 

[JimBob1952]

You don't have any qualifications to make that statement, being clueless as you apparently are.

I'll wait for the next clever insult. "Clueless" is really good, I bet you had to go to a highly selective college to learn that one.

You clearly want the last word, so please respond, and then I won't.

 

[Nathan]

I'll wait for the next clever insult. "Clueless" is really good, I bet you had to go to a highly selective college to learn that one.

You clearly want the last word, so please respond, and then I won't.

O.K., that's a deal. Feel free to use your Ignore button if you can't have a civil exchange of ideas.

Just for the record, civility went out the window with your post #38, attacking what I said in post #26.

 

[Gary O']

Heh, college for today's privileged students

 

[dseag2]

Gender hoax = UVA rape scandal, Columbia "mattress girl" hoax, many other examples. Do you read newspapers?

Race hoax = Duke lacrosse, Oberlin, plus numerous other examples of "racist graffiti" turning out to be perpetrated by the "victims" themselves. Look at the current scandal, the Duke volleyball player claiming that BYU students called her racist names while she was playing. Extensive investigation found absolutely no evidence of this happening. But that's her story, and she's sticking to it.

Thank you for clarifying, and no, I haven't read a newspaper in years. I get my news from other sources that will probably still be around in 10 years.

 

[Alligatorob]

Many of the colleges have become like our heath care "industry", where the money they bring in is their highest "priority".

I think its more than just "many", more like most all... But without money they go away, so its not surprising.

 

[Ruthanne]

I had a great college experience 22 years ago and it was nothing like you described in your OP. Not all colleges are the same. Some allow for diversity in thinking.

 

[dseag2]

My thoughts on college are based on my own experience.

I had no idea what I wanted to do when I graduated from High School. I was always interested in Architecture. I went through a couple of semesters at Junior College and changed my major because it wasn't what I expected. I later received a Bachelor's Degree in Business Administration at USF. I sometimes worked during the day and took night classes. There were courses like Film Appreciation that, for me, were a complete waste of time.

When I entered the job market, I was selling suits at Sears. I then moved to becoming manager of a boutique men's store. One of my customers then hired me at his tour company. I went into sales because one of his salespeople left. I was then hired at a cruise line. I ultimately became VP of Sales in my final position because I had emotional intelligence and knew how to hire, care about and motivate my team. I never used my college degree to land a job or to move up in an organization. It was networking, hard work and ability.

None of these skills were taught in college. Unless there are specific skills like engineering, etc. required to do a job, I think it is a damn shame that so many corporations won't even consider applicants without a college degree... and that is coming from someone who has one.

 

[SeniorBen]

Most of the debt accrued by students involves loans taken out to pay tuition at private colleges and universities, many of which are accredited but don't provide quality education. They're called paper mills. They'll accept pretty much anyone and they assist students in borrowing as much as is available because it goes into the pockets of the CEOs. Teachers are mostly adjunct. They're not paid much, so they don't really care much about the students, many of whom aren't prepared to be in college.

In a more perfect world, the government would crack down on these scam universities. But there's a lot of money to be made in the education industrial complex, so nothing is done to address the problem. Taxpayers are bailing out scam universities by providing loans to students for worthless degrees. The students are screwed because they graduate with mountains of debt. The taxpayers are screwed because they have to foot the bill. But at least some people are getting rich from it all, and really, that's all that matters in the U.S. of A.

 

[ElCastor]

In recent years I've developed a strong dislike toward US colleges and universities. There are many reasons for this. They overcharge their students, educate them badly, and stuff them full of stupid ideas about the evils of capitalism and the joys of woke thinking. They fall prey to idiotic race and gender hoaxes and bloat their staffs with overpaid administrators who never go near a classroom.

Overcharged and overpaid. Completely agree. The cost of a college education has risen to keep pace with the availability of the increasingly endless student loan money used to finance that education. Acres of lawns, towers, fountains, lavish stadiums, and the generous salaries of professors and administrators has to come from somewhere.