We're All Gonna Die - NOT!

[JonDouglas]

Uhmm, actually that was a valid question from @Nathan. That phrase caught my attention too.

Sometimes questions of a type like "what did you mean by that" are just ploys to draw you into a kerfuffle and sidestep the larger issue, which in this case was the subject of decreasing covid deaths. I just refuse be drawn into those type of questions.

 

[JonDouglas]

I received an email from my health care provider this afternoon. I trust that they will give me the most accurate information as is currently available, they are after all publicly accountable. My health is in the hands of my health care professionals, it is for this reason that I ignore those sources on the internet that are not accountable, and merely pursuing an agenda to confuse and control the public.
Here's a screenshot of the email:View attachment 177428

Seems to be a well-worded, calming email. I'm a data person myself. I did notice somewhere that, contrary to what KP says about the CDC saying a booster isn't needed, that Moderna says/suggests it is. Which is the valid source and who's right?

I trust you understand that I am addressing an issue regarding a KP statement and not you personally.

 

[JonDouglas]

You might want to take your own advice. We all make mistskes occasionally. I usually don't ask unless i'm unsure and i was trying to understand your meaning. i shouldn't be surprised you took offense, another double standard. We are done.

OK

 

[JonDouglas]

On Masking: Should you consider the physics of masking (e.g., covid aerosols at 70 - 150 nanometers vs. mask "holes" greater than 400 nm) to be "misinformation", consider an article on the subject from Nature: that says:

The above studies all indicate a strong potential for masks to help reduce transmission of respiratory illnesses. To date, however, none have investigated the effectiveness of masks across a range of expiratory activities, and limited consideration has been given to different mask types. Furthermore, no studies to date have considered the masks themselves as potential sources of aerosol particles. It is well established that fibrous cellulosic materials, like cotton and paper, can release large quantities of micron-scale particles (i.e., dust) into the air39,40,41,42. Traditionally, these particles have not been considered a potential concern for respiratory viral diseases like influenza or now COVID-19, since these diseases have been thought to be transmitted via expiratory particles emitted directly from the respiratory tract of infected individuals43.​

What this says is there isn't much in the way of studies on this. You could, of course, study it yourself by taking whatever mask you like, putting it on tight and blowing smoke with it on, knowing smoke particles aerosols are much larger that covid aerosols.

 

[Nathan]

I did notice somewhere that, contrary to what KP says about the CDC saying a booster isn't needed, that Moderna says/suggests it is. Which is the valid source and who's right?

The Covid response is a work-in-progress, so only time will tell.

 

[Mr. Ed]

We're All Gonna Die - NOT!​

Why not? I am so looking forward to it.

 

[helenbacque]

Well, technically we are ALL going to die--sometime of something even if not from Covid 19 or it's variants.

Personally, I don't feel the 'snark'. A factual statement and provable facts are treasures now.

 

[Forerunner]

So am I!

 

[WhatInThe]

I think they call it 'white coat' syndrome when people get their blood pressure checked in a doctors office and it winds up being very high. I think that's what many are getting when they look at covid and related numbers in the news.

 

[JonDouglas]

More info with study links - Epoch Times: COVID-19 Survivors Have Broad, Longer-Term Immunity:

People who have recovered from COVID-19 retain broad and effective longer-term immunity to the disease, according to a new study. Findings of the study, which is the most comprehensive of its kind so far, have implications for expanding understanding about human immune memory as well as future vaccine development for coronaviruses.​

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For the longitudinal study in Cell Reports Medicine, researchers looked at 254 patients with mostly mild to moderate symptoms of SARS-CoV-2 infection over a period of more than eight months (250 days) and found that their immune response to the virus remained durable and strong.​

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The researchers found that not only did the immune response increase with disease severity but also with each decade of age regardless of disease severity, suggesting that there are additional unknown factors influencing age-related differences in COVID-19 responses.​

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More at source.​

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Something to keep an eye on as we're hearing more and more about NI.

 

[oldman]

I like the sign on my doctor’s office wall:

“I plan on living forever.
So far, so good.”

 

[jerry old]

No one had information of a Big Foot having Covid-19, no not one, none.
They were the first to get the vaccine-Tin Hat or no, who is going to refuse to give A Big Foot the vaccine.

 

[jerry old]

Tin hat's? Big Foot will cover his face with bark when he has to be around humans.
Big Foot does not use toilet paper, so debunking the myth-he was not responsible for the toilet paper shortage.

(What's this ignore nonsense, seems childish to me)

 

[Brookswood]

Current USA 7 day rolling average of vaccination shots is about 770,000 per day. This is twice as many shots each day as a month ago. And it appears to be climbing. Obviously, people have been motivated to act, change their minds, found new (for them) information, etc.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...d-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

 

[win231]

Current USA 7 day rolling average of vaccination shots is about 770,000 per day. This is twice as many shots each day as a month ago. And it appears to be climbing. Obviously, people have been motivated to act, change their minds, found new (for them) information, etc.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...d-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

Thinking people know that people are more likely to buy into something if they think many other people have already bought into it. Non thinkers might go for something if they're told it's a big seller, so of course they'll say "Everybody's doing it." Many social experiments indicate this.
That's why the sign at every McDonald's says "Billions & Billions Sold."

 

[SeaBreeze]

Current USA 7 day rolling average of vaccination shots is about 770,000 per day. This is twice as many shots each day as a month ago. And it appears to be climbing. Obviously, people have been motivated to act, change their minds, found new (for them) information, etc.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...d-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

Thanks for that information Brookswood, glad more people are doing the responsible thing and getting vaccinated. When the numbers rise even more, there will be some light at the end of the tunnel.

 

[OscarW]

Thinking people know that people are more likely to buy into something if they think many other people have already bought into it. Non thinkers might go for something if they're told it's a big seller, so of course they'll say "Everybody's doing it." Many social experiments indicate this.
That's why the sign at every McDonald's says "Billions & Billions Sold."

Agreed. Here’s a quote from Bertrand Russell on the matter of thinking.

 

[Brookswood]

Thinking people know that people are more likely to buy into something if they think many other people have already bought into it. Non thinkers might go for something if they're told it's a big seller, so of course they'll say "Everybody's doing it." Many social experiments indicate this.
That's why the sign at every McDonald's says "Billions & Billions Sold."

I wonder which is worse, a McDonalds hamburger or the tobacco in the pipe that Mr. Russel is smoking?

I've bought a few of their burgers myself, usually from the $1 menu (now really the $1.29 menu in my area).

 

[ohioboy]

Bertrand Russell, 1872-970? He's aging backwards big time.