What are your thoughts on suicide?

There are many people who go through life with non stop mental anguish.
Ending their lives would stop that mental torment. It is very tiring fighting with ones mind on a daily basis.
There are those who are simply tired of living. We all should have the option of ceasing to exist when we decide that enough is enough.
Suicide is very hard on those left behind. Family and friends will suffer greatly, many thinking "Why did I not see the signs? Could I have listened more and offered real, meaningful advice?
I think the person who suicides is wanting to stop the daily pain of not wanting to live in a world in which they see no place for themselves.
Their family and friends are not the focus. Stopping the distress going on inside their head is the only thing that matters.
 

JustDave said:
Painless suicide doesn't say much. But blowing your brains out, now that's a statement. But I'd probably do the sleeping pills thing.
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I once attended a "shotgun suicide " call here in Toronto. A very expensive home, in a luxury part of the city. The deceased was found fully clothed in an extra large bath tub. The weapon of choice was a pump shot gun. The odd part was...he missed, with the first shot, and blew a large hole in the wall, behind the bath tub. Re-loaded the shotgun, and fired ,again.

It happened that on that particular shift my partner and I had a Humber College Ambulance course student riding with us, as an observer. The man in the bath tub was very obviously dead. That was the last day that student rode with a crew. He withdrew from the program at Humber College the next week.

Its not the job for everyone. JIM.
 
I agree. Your life is in your own hands I am of the belief that life is full of lessons and suicide is a difficult one. If you choose to end it, yes, your family and friends will suffer but what, really, is the lesson? To be kinder, to be more aware and accepting, to slow down your life and pay more attention, to value people instead of things/money?
 
A woman I knew committed suicide and it was such a shock. I thought she had everything going for her but I guess there was hidden pain. I would not consider that as an escape but feel sorry for those that do.
 
The NYTimes Sunday magazine from June 1st has a story about Canada's MAID law. Very provocative and interesting. Probably can be read online but I read the actual mag and didn't look up the link. Canada now has two tracks: the first is the usual, people who have some fatal illness; then they have a second track for those who aren't necessarily dying but for reasons like chronic uncontrollable pain, for example, want to die. The story focused a lot on a 52 year old woman who used MAID bc of chronic pain.
 
In the year 2000, I investigated 9 suicides that year, which was my largest number. Kids seem to be innovative when committing this heinous act. During 2000, 1 kid put a shotgun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. Talk about gruesome, that picture would have defined the word. I also had a hanging with a belt in a barn, another was a single shot with a .22 to the side of the head and others. It was a terrible year and one I will never forget. To hear the mothers’ screams still remain in my head to this day. I thought the 17 y/o boy overdosed on a narcotic, until we found a short note. Dying by overdosing on a narcotic is like torturing yourself. It’s slow and brutal.

A man of 44 y/o went missing. I searched around the house and went into the garage as my last point of looking for him. I found him under the front wheel of his pickup truck. At first, I thought “What a terrible accident.” But then, I found the letter he left for his family. He had been having lower belly pain for about a month and finally went to the doctor. They did a Colonoscopy and found he had stage 4 Colon Cancer. The next day, he committed suicide. In the letter, he stated he wasn’t going to go through all of the treatments. The end was in sight.

It’s a terrible thing as you would imagine to find any suicide. It’s even worse when we must notify the family. The one question everyone asks is “Why?” We tell the family “It’s because it’s the choice they chose. Something in their life wasn’t right and they didn’t know how to fix it. They felt trapped and see no other way out.” When kids commit suicide, they (the parents) have a lot of trouble of letting go.
 
astralcat said:
I grieve for the many that have done it. Suicide is a mental illness most probably brought on by severe depression. It is so sad that it is so difficult to spot the signs. Even sadder that a human being feels so isolated that suicide seems the only way to end all the pain.
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Why do you feel it is a mental illness ? Can't someone/anyone just be tired of [their] day-to-day stress/aggravations/pain etc, that they just say enough ?

We have no voice in when we are born. That is usually decided by two other folks, or it is the unplanned result of the passion shared. Should we also have no say in our exit ?
 
Aunt Bea said:
I’m ok with it for me but not so much for others.

It’s heartbreaking when young people feel that suicide is the only solution to something like bullying or sexting.

I’m ok with it for people in the final stages of life.

My concern would be getting it right and not ending up in a far worse situation.
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AB, trust me a well placed .38 to the side of the head , or under chin should get it right.

My neighbor tried pills [twice] {didn't work} . No lasting affects [far as I can tell] she always was a tad goofy. And always leaned on her parents in many ways. Financially and with her kids , G/ma & G/pa are getting [up-there] about 80, not in the best of health, so I hope the little kid grows quickly, He's about 4-5 just now
 
In my years as an Ambulance Attendant here in Toronto, I met quite a few people who were enthralled by the "Idea of killing themselves". They would talk all about how they were "going to do it ". I had a simple test that I would use to find out just how "serious they were. Lets suppose that the potential suicide lives in a high rise apartment suite, with a balcony.....

Come on out here, on the balcony, and let ME push YOU over the edge......ALL OF A SUDDEN, they want to live. They were playing a game, for sympathy. Threatening to kill your self is in most cases, unlikely to result in actual death.

One actual death sticks with me to this day....Christmas morning, a call for a 'possible death by firearm" in a high rise apartment tower in the west end. Randy and I arrive, the Police have arrived a few minutes earlier, and the door is open. The entire apartment is furnished with white carpets, white wall paper, white leather couches and a huge all white 7 foot Christmas tree by the windows. Lying under the tree is a young blonde woman, dressed in a long white dress, with a jeweled tiara on her head. Her throat has been cut, and there is a large pool of blood surrounding her body.

Except for the blood, she looked like she was sleeping there. Upon searching the rest of the apartment suite, the Police found a deceased male in a bedroom, dead from a self inflicted head wound by a hand gun. So a murder, suicide. The sound of the hand gun shot was what alerted people who called 911. It was like a scene from a movie. Given the fact that both persons were so obviously dead, the Coroner's constables did the body removal, not us. JIM.
 
original man/woman was given free will ????????? and then came along Moses with the ten commandments - can't remember a "suicide clause" around that time?
 
The only suicide, worth considering, is if a person is in incurable terrible pain and/or impairment without any hope of a cure. The only method worth considering in that case is for one to stop eating and drinking for 2 to 3 weeks at which point one is dead. I am 90 years old. My Geriatrician told me, if I want to go and stop eating and drinking, he would visit me every day to make sure I was comfortable before the end.

In any other situation suicide is a huge blunder. All other problems can be solved or tolerated if one seeks medical advice. If a person is suicidal, he should call the suicide hotline to get advice.

Call or Text or Chat the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline
988. Hours are available 24/7 and the cost is free.

OR

Text HOME to 741741 to reach a trained Crisis Counselor through Crisis Text Line, a global not-for-profit organization. Free, 24/7, confidential.
 
I'm saddened by those who think suicide is selfish.

It would be if it was done for spite with a clear mind... rather than what actually happens in reality and that is the victim has come to a cross roads in their life where their boots are stuck in the quicksand and there's no-one to pull them out and feet are stamping on their head... they've sunk as low as they can go, and have no clear vision of how life could be without pain and suffering

My mother was just such a person.. weighed down married to a man older than herelf who had already been divorced, , having had no experience of other men having been raised in an orphange run by evil nuns.. she found herself in a marriage where she was in fear of the beatings of her husband , bearing child after child every year when he refused to sllow her birth control.. She wasn't allowed freinds, she was kept without money of her own, and in abject poverty.. and then discovered to her horror that she'd married a man who had been to prison for horrific crimes.... before she knew him..

Had her first nervous breakdown at 24 years old..I have clear memories of her being unconscious after her first overdose when I was just 3 years old.....beatings and bad behaviour continued despite her severe depression and medical treatments for it, no exceptions were made because she was ill.. and she had to watch as her children were severly beaten also....until ultimately she took her own life when she was in her 30's..

The pain was indescribable to me as a teen , I couldn't make you understand just HOW painful...... and continues to be even 50 years later albeit less so... but I would rather suffer that pain myself..than have her continue to suffer for the rest of her life just in case we thought her Selfish
 
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My daughters' younger half brother, my ex husbands' son by his second marriage, committed suicide a few years ago... by hanging.. he was just 24 years old

He had a g/f and a new baby... but he'd hidden a gambling addiction and enormous debts from everyone, and couldn't see a way out.

he left a note for his father to find when he woke, .. .. but didn't say where he was going to be... ..my ex husband frantically tried to call him, but his calls went unanswered..

His son.. was found by a dog walker, hanging in the woods...later that morning 😔

What a terribly tragic waste of a young life...
 
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I'd never judge people who commit suicide. It's a very personal decision and I don't think that it leads to bad consequences for the afterlife.
 

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