What do you think about the new marijuana laws in Colorado ?

Well not in Fresno anymore...read yesterday that they were going to vote on a zero tolerance law for medical marijuana...no growing..no selling.

Bummer, if I ever need it.
 

CeeCee said:
Well not in Fresno anymore...read yesterday that they were going to vote on a zero tolerance law for medical marijuana...no growing..no selling.

Bummer, if I ever need it.
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It's because they would otherwise lose out on the Federal money they receive for enforcement. They're going against the voter's wishes (Prop 215) and they're making it difficult for anyone with a legitimate need.

I think the end result of all this marijuana legalization is going to be like alcohol: there are going to be "dry" counties and towns which you'll just have to learn to avoid if you have a medical need.

Certainly I'd never live in such a place once the laws are passed.
 
It's all about the money like Phil said, the hell with the voters and the people in need. Why treat a cancer victim's pain with something natural and safe, when they can go on drugs that weaken their immune systems even more, and harm their organs? I'm in Colorado, and I haven't seen any of the sales action, except what is shown on the local news. Everything by me is business as usual, won't notice until they sell it at the local Walgreens I guess. They showed some folks traveling here from out of state to buy a 1/4 ounce, some older and likely wanting it for health/pain management. It's a shame they have to jump through hoops to get it. :(
 

Rolling Stone has a great article on the new Colorado and Washington laws and the legalization in general. Pretty interesting but not all that simple . . . of course. See what happens when you let the government get involved?!?
 
Business is good apparently..saw on the news this morning that demand has caused the prices to double from $200 an oz to $400. My question is what is stopping the same old dealers from selling it on the street for much less?
 
Nothing is stopping the dealers from selling their weed in the streets, but the advantage to buying it legally is the quality of the product (strain) is much higher and you don't have to worry about breaking the law, or getting ripped off by some punk on a street corner. Also, not many of the older folks don't have any contact with someone who could provide them with marijuana anymore, they would have to go to a stranger and risk getting arrested.
 
Ozarkgal said:
Business is good apparently..saw on the news this morning that demand has caused the prices to double from $200 an oz to $400. My question is what is stopping the same old dealers from selling it on the street for much less?
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I read that they were even taking the medical stock to sell as recreational, because they weren't prepared for the rush.

The price gouging is just wrong, but that's America. :(

I doubt that the street dealers are going to stick with their lower prices once the dispensaries kick theirs up. $200/oz. is bad enough - $400 is highway robbery unless they're selling some primo smoke. It's a market, like any other, and the prices will be set by the current standards.

Yet another reason to grow your own.
 
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One...I don't have a green thumb and two...very big fines and possible jail time in Fresno.

I have my grandma image to uphold and that would not be a good message to my teenage grandson...would it, lol?

Of course I could always ask Pedro my lawn guy to do it!
 
CeeCee said:
One...I don't have a green thumb and two...very big fines and possible jail time in Fresno.
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Simple - move. ;)

They have "grow chambers" for sale that are totally self-contained and from which you can grow a decent personal supply. No fuss, no muss, stick it under the coffee table or in the closet - no one will be the wiser.

But no, I wouldn't advocate turning your basement into a grow room - the power consumption alone will set off all the warning lights at your local power station. :D

I have my grandma image to uphold and that would not be a good message to my teenage grandson...would it, lol?
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If you were to ask me, I would say it is. What's wrong with cultivating a medicinal herb? Technically they stopped hanging witches centuries ago - although to read some of the headlines it makes me wonder ...

Of course I could always ask Pedro my lawn guy to do it!
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Anyone named "Pedro" is sure to have a huge supply at hand! :playful:
 
I've tried it several times, it's just not me, don't care for it. Red wine is my vice.

I'm still going with the live and let live attitude....if you need it and enjoy it, go for it!
 
your last response is probably the easiet way!

I don't really need it right now, but I do have back issues and was thinking about the future.

and I am a firm believer of its your body and you can do what you want with it as long as you don't hurt others in the process!
 
I fail to see how it will work CeeCee as it will not stop at the ones who need it.. medicinal needs that is!
Somehow its still going to be abused and will get out of control.. and who will limit it to just the amount they need?
Marijuana actually was legal in Colorado prior to 2014. Since the voter-approved Amendment 64 (ah, there it is) went into effect on Dec. 10, 2012, It is legal for anyone 21 and over to use marijuana or possess up to an ounce of marijuana for any purpose Marijuana possession and use by people under 21 who aren't medical-marijuana patients remains against the law.People with a Colorado ID can buy up to an ounce of marijuana at a time. People with an out-of-state ID can buy up to a quarter ounce. Is that going to be enough to satisfy.. thats why I think it will get out of hand..but thats just my opinion of it.. its really a good thing to ease the pain in many who are suffering such severe pain.. so hopefully it will be a success for that reason.... maybe!!


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That seriously made my morning! Oh dear god!

And I also garnered another term for being stoned.."Herbed up" I like it!

I've stayed out of this thread and not said much, because I always like to fly under the radar, but hey I live in Washington St. so who cares now!

I know a lot of folks, including myself, who use Devil's Parsley (my personal favorite term for weed) we all started smoking weed in at least 1970s and never stopped! So that's well over 40 years in some of our cases. And I have gone for periods of time without it, it's not like trying to quit cigarettes, weed is not physically addicting.

Back in the late 1970's one of my grandma's was dying from cancer and she couldn't eat and felt so bad, I scored some good weed for her and taught her how to smoke pot, and she was able to start eating again. That was one of the best moments of my entire life, I bought her a cool little pipe to smoke it in. I felt like I was really able to ease her last days. Did I care then or ever that it was illegal, hell no!

At least now if we want to smoke a joint in the backyard we don't have to go hide behind a tree.
 
Ozarkgal said:
Jay Thomas talking to David Letterman on his experience with the Lone Ranger, Clayton Moore...Funnneee!


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OMG, I LOVE THIS POST! First of all, it was here in Charlotte (before the big banks grew us) where Jay worked as disc jockey for my favorite radio station, BIG WAYS. I listened to him all the time, he was hilarious! It was at a time I was out and about all the time and so was he. I never met him, but saw him out often....with his HUGE Afro!

All the places he mentioned, the Red Carpet Inn (had great restaurant) on Morehead St., Anderson's Seafood Restaurant, both less that 5 min from here and places I ate often, (and have been closed for years) bring back so many wonderful memories....as does seeing Jay again. He went on to much bigger and better things after a couple years. This hilarious story had me spewing coffee....thank you so much for the walk down memory lane.
 
Rainee said:
I... People with a Colorado ID can buy up to an ounce of marijuana at a time. People with an out-of-state ID can buy up to a quarter ounce. Is that going to be enough to satisfy.. thats why I think it will get out of hand..but thats just my opinion of it ...
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I don't quite understand how that is going to lead to "getting out of hand" ... :confused:

The 1/4 oz. limit for non-residents I can understand is way too small an amount to travel for for realistic pain management, but for residents an ounce should see them through a week at least.
 
According to the Rolling Stone article in their latest issue, making it legal just ain't that easy. I always thought it was just a matter of declaring, "Smoke 'em if you got 'em . . . ". But there are issues of control and distribution. Apparently beer companies are best set up to control distribution. Now, of course keeping it away from minors is paramount. The ATF does okay with controlling alcohol and tobacco but keeping guns away from kids is " . . . run, better run, faster than my bullet." I know I don't want any big company producing and messing with it. Probably end up with lots of crap in it just like cigarettes and even the wonderful GMO problems. Personally, I just want it legal to grow a few plants at home. Have done it many times; in the attic, basement, closet and it was lots of fun . . . except for the paranoia part...
 
Old Hipster said:
That seriously made my morning! Oh dear god!

And I also garnered another term for being stoned.."Herbed up" I like it!

I've stayed out of this thread and not said much, because I always like to fly under the radar, but hey I live in Washington St. so who cares now!

I know a lot of folks, including myself, who use Devil's Parsley (my personal favorite term for weed) we all started smoking weed in at least 1970s and never stopped! So that's well over 40 years in some of our cases. And I have gone for periods of time without it, it's not like trying to quit cigarettes, weed is not physically addicting.

Back in the late 1970's one of my grandma's was dying from cancer and she couldn't eat and felt so bad, I scored some good weed for her and taught her how to smoke pot, and she was able to start eating again. That was one of the best moments of my entire life, I bought her a cool little pipe to smoke it in. I felt like I was really able to ease her last days. Did I care then or ever that it was illegal, hell no!

At least now if we want to smoke a joint in the backyard we don't have to go hide behind a tree.
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Wish I would have that of that for my husband...he couldn't eat either...it would have helped him with that and the pain also.
 
Just want to add that I read on our local news that another problem that seems to be appearing is that the legal vendors are being "harassed" and "threatened" by the illegal drug dealers who see this as them cutting into their profits...if I was a legal vendor that would scare me a little or a lot!
 
CeeCee said:
Just want to add that I read on our local news that another problem that seems to be appearing is that the legal vendors are being "harassed" and "threatened" by the illegal drug dealers who see this as them cutting into their profits...if I was a legal vendor that would scare me a little or a lot!
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CeeCee said:
Just want to add that I read on our local news that another problem that seems to be appearing is that the legal vendors are being "harassed" and "threatened" by the illegal drug dealers who see this as them cutting into their profits...if I was a legal vendor that would scare me a little or a lot!
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Well out here in the sticks I never hear of anything like that happening. I think there are enough people wanting to buy smoke that there is plenty of business to go around.
 

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