What do you think is 99% hype?

And? I'm not sure why this is an issue.
I couldn't recall the name of this hideous drug, so I asked AI:
"What was the acne drug in which death was a side effect?"
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The acne drug you’re referring to is isotretinoin. While it effectively treats severe acne, it can have potential side effects. These include dryness (such as chapped lips and dry skin), sun sensitivity, and temporary worsening of acne when you start taking it. Additionally, isotretinoin can affect your eyesight, hair, muscles, or joints, but these side effects tend to go away once you stop the medication. In rare cases, it can increase pressure inside the brain, leading to permanent sight loss or, very rarely, death...

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I couldn't recall the name of this hideous drug, so I asked AI:
"What was the acne drug in which death was a side effect?"
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The acne drug you’re referring to is isotretinoin. While it effectively treats severe acne, it can have potential side effects. These include dryness (such as chapped lips and dry skin), sun sensitivity, and temporary worsening of acne when you start taking it. Additionally, isotretinoin can affect your eyesight, hair, muscles, or joints, but these side effects tend to go away once you stop the medication. In rare cases, it can increase pressure inside the brain, leading to permanent sight loss or, very rarely, death...

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Oh, there have been many drugs put on the market to disastrous results. I'd imagine the most known is Thalidomide. But such cases are minuscule in number in the grand view.
 
I disagree --you do it your way, I'll do it mine. If I want the truth, I immediately leave the propaganda-slinging media site and search for the source of the story

Sure, whatever works. On the other hand, once I know a site is known for say, right-wing propaganda, I know every and anything it says is unreliable and can be ignored. Over time, you know which sites are even worth glancing at.

Another alternative is to just not take what you're reading so seriously. Extract the event being reported from the tone, and you can keep informed without getting outraged. For example, tabloids in the UK don't swing between writing tabloid nonsense and writing articles that are worth reading - they are what they are. It's when people start believing what they print and taking it at face value that it becomes a personal problem.

The reality is, people like things that largely agree with them. So certain types of people like source A, some source B. They don't think much beyond that, which of course is the essence of an echo chamber.
 
"Reliable Sources" ...so not a reality, yet the "go team" left and right claim only theirs are.

There are left biased news sources and right biased news sources with precious little in between. But ideological adherents either are too brainwashed or intellectually lazy to read from a selection and try to find kernels of truth.

Actually, the best place to start on the internet is by researching the site the information is posted on. Is it right-wing, left-wing, etc. Are the writers known for being biased, and what other stories have they written? Usually it's not difficult to find out the truth of the matter.

The very worst way to look for truth @VaughanJB is to start with labeling sources right-wing, left-wing, much less consider the writer. That's where people get intellectually lazy with "reliable" or "reputable" sources which is actually confirmation bias. Read as wide a variety as you can for a topic of interest, trace the keywords relevant to the original source of the story and try to determine the truth from there.
 
Actually, the best place to start on the internet is by researching the site the information is posted on. Is it right-wing, left-wing, etc. Are the writers known for being biased, and what other stories have they written? Usually it's not difficult to find out the truth of the matter.
Maybe understanding that most all of the Internet is probably controlled by investors and advertiser stuff, maybe they set the rules, the site is a chance to garner our thoughts. Well that is just a thought too.
 
The very worst way to look for truth @VaughanJB is to start with labeling sources right-wing, left-wing, much less consider the writer. That's where people get intellectually lazy with "reliable" or "reputable" sources which is actually confirmation bias. Read as wide a variety as you can for a topic of interest, trace the keywords relevant to the original source of the story and try to determine the truth from there.

Possibly, but then you're assuming that I think something is "bad" just because it's one of the other. That's not the case. It's all about context. So, if I'm reading something about, say, one candidate over another, I can judge the veracity of information by taking a look at the bias of the publication. It's well known the right-wing publications don't publish pro left-wing stories. The same applies the other way. So knowing the bias is essential. One example is Fox News - it's really really terrible. I don't see any reason to ever include it in any follow-up or analysis.

Same with writers. If a writer's last 50 articles are littered with heavily biased takes on a topic, then you know you're not going to get both sides from their 51st. This is all especially true of the so called "alternative media" where it's highlighted even more starkly. I don't think that's "intellectually lazy", I just think it's obvious.

Take the tabloid press. Tabloids rely on drama and the cult of personality. Everything is dramatic, extreme, and overblown, it's news delivered in a circus. You don't go to tabloids to get a reasoned view on a topic. It's more akin to gossiping over the fence to your similarly biased neighbor. It's chatter. I don't see how it's intellectually lazy to acknowledge it (it's more intellectually lazy to read it at all!)

Of course, to determine these things you have to have read widely. Not to mention, history matters a lot too. For example, you can't really make sense of the Ukraine War without knowing some history, same with the issues in Israel right now. They're not isolated incidents, they're part of a continuum.

Personally, I don't rely on any single source. As I've said, I have a site which I skim for the latest news, but that's at a high level where I just want to know the event rather than the detail. If I want to know more, then I can go to multiple other sites to get a fuller picture. Sadly, far too much today is simply taken from a Reuters feed.

As for original sources, that can sometimes work, sometimes not. Again, let me reference the Ukraine War. We get various sources from the Ukrainian side giving us news from the front, and we also get some from the Russian side. Which is truly accurate? Both are invested in bigging up themselves.

I'll end by saying - so much of what is in the news is on a persona level trivial and insignificant. I don't bother researching everything. Not because I'm lazy, but because it just doesn't affect me in any meaningful way, and I prefer not to get invested or excited by things which have no impact on my own life.
 
Maybe understanding that most all of the Internet is probably controlled by investors and advertiser stuff, maybe they set the rules, the site is a chance to garner our thoughts. Well that is just a thought too.

The thing is, the vast majority of the so-called "Alternative Media" do not actually do any research or news gathering on their own. Instead they aggregate the news and simply put their own spin on it. Being right or wrong is rarely of interest, because consumers have very short memories and tomorrow is another day. In other words, there's no accountability. With nothing at risk, how are you going to get truth?

There isn't a single site on the net that isn't concerned about money. It's all money driven, whether it be commercials or clicks. Still, that's not the worst of it. Worse is those with clear agendas. We're seeing this right now with the extreme right constantly bombarding us with pro-riot rhetoric. Money is less of a concern than generating hatred and violence. They're radicals.

Honestly, the endless attacks on the institutions which have made our countries great, the constant whining and complaining about the results of elections, the whole undermining of our culture by those who want to bring it all down is the perfect way to destroy us from within. Far too many Americans and British people are so busy hating on who we are, who needs enemies? If Russia/China wanted to attack the US, I can't think of a better way than Social Media influences. Let's be honest, it's working.
 
Confirmation bias is a type of cognitive bias that favors information that confirms your previously existing beliefs or biases.
Confirmation biases affect not only how we gather information but also how we interpret and recall it. For example, people who support or oppose a particular issue will not only seek information to support it, but they will also interpret news stories in a way that upholds their existing ideas. They will also remember details in a way that reinforces these attitudes.
 
Indeed, Dilettante. I think it's virtually impossible to 100% remove a bias.

On the other hand, just being aware you have one puts you one step ahead of most!
 
Some things we need to consider.....

- EVERYTHING you read or hear has some degree of bias in it. It may be 1 percent, or just total BS.
- There are always at least 3 sides to a story - the two opposite sides, and the unmasked truth.
- The courts use the phrase, "the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". Think about that, and imagine what our communications would be like if we all did them with that guideline in mind.
 
...It's well known the right-wing publications don't publish pro left-wing stories. The same applies the other way. So knowing the bias is essential. One example is Fox News - it's really really terrible. I don't see any reason to ever include it in any follow-up or analysis.

You just proved my confirmation bias point and my original point that having a "reputable sources" list is BS. I would never eliminate Fox News online articles although having to listen to their TV news channel would drive me insane. They are as important to include as the New York Times (the least trustworthy of the legacy media) in sifting through to find the truth in an issue in an age in nearly all news outlets have an skewed ideological, political agenda.

As a moderate Independent, I read Fox as carefully and distrustfully as I do legacy media sources ...sift for nuggets of truth, trace the topic back as far as possible to the original source.
 
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I listen every day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year for years, one drug after another that you are to ask your Dr. about but get prescription for can be hazardous to your health, kill parts of you and basically end up really bad. Just Google Ibuprofen an Aspirin. ..... Ulcers ? ..... Bowel blood is common with heavy users is a thought. Slit of wrists in hot water or just take a crap. Easy.

It's a "Don't blame us, blame your Dr." --- What I hear.
"UR dying, we can mask it and get rid of you quicker."
 
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Aside from politics, what do consider as being mostly underserved hype?
For me, an example would be John Wayne. In all his movies he's had only one role- to be a two fisted "John Wayne". Another would be Modern Art. There was a guy, who put a urinal on a post, and called it "art", and it SOLD.
What do you think is just underserved hype?
Never liked John Wayne. Always hate how Native Americans were portrayed in his movies. Especially that terrible movie The Searchers. His character was clearly bigoted, but was portrayed as a hero at the end.
 
You just proved my confirmation bias point and my original point that having a "reputable sources" list is BS. I would never eliminate Fox News online articles although having to listen to their TV news channel would drive me insane. They are as important to include as the New York Times (the least trustworthy of the legacy media) in sifting through to find the truth in an issue in an age in nearly all news outlets have an skewed ideological, political agenda.

As a moderate Independent, I read Fox as carefully and distrustfully as I do legacy media sources ...sift for nuggets of truth, trace the topic back as far as possible to the original source.

It's okay that we disagree. Fox is not worthy of a moment of my time, but if it works for you, then it's all good. Honestly, for the big topics you don't have to read their nonsense to know what their take is. :D

When was the age when news media wasn't ideological, and having a political agenda? See, I think it was never.

I don't recall suggesting you had written BS either. Seems like you and I have slightly different ways at arriving at our conclusions. Another important aspect is, in the modern age with simple search engines, people seem to think they must have an opinion on everything. From riots to the price of designer jewelry. People care about far too much these days.
 
Almost any headline is hype, lest we ignore. No clicks and ad revenue if that happens. An example would be Friday and today's sell-off in the stock market. The dreaded "R" word is being used, which can create an "R". Supposedly, it was that jobs report on Friday, but I really do question that as the cause. It does create hype for a FED rate cut, however. That latter is the bias in the reporting, imho.
 
Lots of them quit in July and to go out of state to schools & get jobs there. 100,000 new jobs are exactly that.
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