What is your definition of marriage?

Marriage is a loving friendship, 38 years for us now, and we still hold hands sometimes and do romantic things often. I agree with QS, it's just a legal contract between two consenting adults.
 
An old couple toddled into the lawyers office.

Old man: "Sonny, we're here to get one of them divorces."

Lawyer: "Well, I can certainly arrange that, but are you sure?"

Old man: "Yep, we're sure."

Lawyer: "OK, let's start with some basic facts. How long have you been married?"

Old man: "We been married 75 years come March."

Lawyer: "And is this something that has just cropped up? Can I help you reconcile?"

Old man: "Well, thanks, sonny, but we been thinkin' and plannin' on this for about...uh....73, 74 years now."

Lawyer: "What made you wait so long?"

Old man: "We was just waitin' for the kids to die."
 
Funny, but you've got a real point here! A lot of people support gay marriage of people they don't know, but if it were their own daughter or son.......now THAT would be a tough call. I mean, could any of you here go to a wedding and see your own daughter or son give the traditional "marital kiss" to their own sex. Gives me the creeps even thinking about it. One word description for that.......YUK!!

Ken N Tx said:
What if it is your son or daughter?? Would you support them??
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I must admit, Classic Rockr, it would make me feel very uncomfortable too.I do think that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and would have liked the civil union to continue for gays , but instead we have legalised marriage here now.We are all, as you say, entitled to our own views on this matter.
 
Ken N Tx said:
What if it is your son or daughter?? Would you support them??
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I'd most definitely support my girls if she/they were lesbians. I would figure that is the way they were born, no blame to be attached and they deserve to have someone to love and share life with from both a spiritual and a legal perspective just like I do.

Personally, I can't see the importance of the word 'marriage/married' and suspect that to a degree it's symbolic as an indicator that they've 'arrived' if you know what I mean. But then maybe it isn't important to me because I'm not living with the discrimination that they've endured. Look at it this way folks, now they have at least as much aggravation to look forward to if things don't work out, in the same way as every other couple who divorces does. Or maybe they'll be the ones on this seniors forum in 30 years and will be talking about their spouses of 40,50 years. Who knows eh? And we'll all be archived!
 
ClassicRockr said:
Funny, but you've got a real point here! A lot of people support gay marriage of people they don't know, but if it were their own daughter or son.......now THAT would be a tough call. I mean, could any of you here go to a wedding and see your own daughter or son give the traditional "marital kiss" to their own sex. Gives me the creeps even thinking about it. One word description for that.......YUK!!
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I most certainly could. My child is my child... nothing changes that. If my son were happy.. in love... a good and productive person, I would have no problem witnessing his marriage to a same sex partner. Sexuality is only a very small part of a person. We are a whole lot more than sex organs. I prefer to see the whole person and not obscess on what or who they do in bed. I'm not sure why some people put so much importance on that.
 
Debby said:
I'd most definitely support my girls if she/they were lesbians. I would figure that is the way they were born, no blame to be attached and they deserve to have someone to love and share life with from both a spiritual and a legal perspective just like I do.

Personally, I can't see the importance of the word 'marriage/married' and suspect that to a degree it's symbolic as an indicator that they've 'arrived' if you know what I mean. But then maybe it isn't important to me because I'm not living with the discrimination that they've endured. Look at it this way folks, now they have at least as much aggravation to look forward to if things don't work out, in the same way as every other couple who divorces does. Or maybe they'll be the ones on this seniors forum in 30 years and will be talking about their spouses of 40,50 years. Who knows eh? And we'll all be archived!
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Well said, Debby and QS, I totally agree.
 
oakapple said:
Hmmmn, alright, well, can it make you an apple cake [to go with the cup of tea?]
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I doubt it - er, she - could.

But then, I can't do 10,000 mathematical calculations per second in my head.

Our strengths and weaknesses will balance each other out and see us through. :love_heart:
 
QuickSilver said:
I remember when those opposed to same sex marriage were convinced that people would want to marry their livestock next.. SO perhaps "union between two adults of the same species" is more specific.. lol!!
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OMG I know. Totally stupid! Some suggested that would open the door to marrying kids or siblings etc. Idiots.
 
I don't normally get into this type of posts and I do believe in live and let live. Most of you may remember me mentioning about being involved in Social Ballroom dancing.
We attended a ball, and also attending that ball as its open to anyone, was gay male and female couples and it really gave me a sick feeling watching the male couples doing a close contact rumba dance, only ever seen them once
 
Kadee46 said:
I don't normally get into this type of posts and I do believe in live and let live. Most of you may remember me mentioning about being involved in Social Ballroom dancing.
We attended a ball, and also attending that ball as its open to anyone, was gay male and female couples and it really gave me a sick feeling watching the male couples doing a close contact rumba dance, only ever seen them once
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I have a question.. Did it give you the same "sick feeling" watching two females do the rumba dance? Probably not. I'm convinced that seeing two females in close contact dancing does not elicit the same viseral response as watching two males. Women have always been allowed to dance together, hold hands, show affection to one another that men are not allowed to. This, I believe is less to do about the males' sexuality than it is cultural standards... Particularly Western. Men in other cultures have more freedom to express emotion to one another.
 
Straight men like watching lesbian scenes in movies but not gay men getting it on...
 
Ralphy1 said:
Straight men like watching lesbian scenes in movies but not gay men getting it on...
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Yes... that is exactly my point.. Both sexes seem to enjoy some girl on girl action in pornos...I don't expect many people here, who are avidly opposed to gay marriage to admit it, but I would venture to guess a few of those pornos have been watched and enjoyed. YET the thought of two men together turns their stomachs. Why the difference?
 
Men are more stimulated visually than women when it comes to sex. Straight men love to see attractive naked women no matter who they are doing, but we have no interest in men's bodies. BTW, you don't have to watch porno anymore to get your titillation as movies and cable shows are loaded with all kinds of sex...
 
Ralphy1 said:
Men are more stimulated visually than women when it comes to sex. Straight men love to see attractive naked women no matter who they are doing, but we have no interest in men's bodies. BTW, you don't have to watch porno anymore to get your titillation as movies and cable shows are loaded with all kinds of sex...
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I don't think it's just men... Women don't seem to have the aversion to seeing women touch as they do to men.. I contend that it's more culturally acceptable. Women have always been freer to express affection than men.
 

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