What the hell let em all in the more the merrier

Lon said:
Actually Jim, I prefer Secular Humanist rather than Atheist, but Secular Humanist causes most folks to run to the dictionary or do a Google Search.
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...had to google that.

Wikipedia article:

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The meaning of the phrase secular humanism has evolved over time. The phrase has been used since at least the 1930s,[SUP][5][/SUP] and in 1943, the then Archbishop of Canterbury, William Temple, was reported as warning that the "Christian tradition... was in danger of being undermined by a 'Secular Humanism' which hoped to retain Christian values without Christian faith."[SUP][6][/SUP] During the 1960s and 1970s the term was embraced by some humanists who considered themselves anti-religious,[SUP][7][/SUP] as well as those who, although not critical of religion in its various guises, preferred a non-religious approach.[SUP][8][/SUP] The release in 1980 of A Secular Humanist Declaration by the newly formed Council for Democratic and Secular Humanism (CODESH, now the Council for Secular Humanism) gave secular humanism an organisational identity within the United States.
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Interesting. I still believe that Christ was real and that his death was intended to lead humanity to eternal life. I feel that if more so-called Christians (of the right-wing persuasion) were to actually embrace Christ's teachings, rather than the "stone throwing" eye-for-an-eye" passages in the Old Testament, there would be a lot less Is·lam·o·pho·bi·a going around, these days.

More good reading on Wikipedia:

Jesus in Islam

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Isa Ibn Maryam (Arabic: عيسى بن مريم‎, translit. ʿĪsā ibn Maryām; English: Jesus, son of Mary), or Jesus in the New Testament, is considered to be a Messenger of God and al-Masih (the Messiah) in Islam[1][2]:30 who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (banī isrā'īl) with a new scripture, al-Injīl (the Gospel).[3] The belief that Jesus is a prophet is required in Islam. This is reflected in the fact that he is clearly a significant figure in the Quran, appearing in 93 ayaat (or verses) with various titles attached, with Moses appearing 136 times and Abraham 69 times.[4] The Quran states that Jesus was born a 'pure boy' to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God the Creator (Arabic: Allah) which follows the belief of the prophetic message in the Old Testament passage Isaiah 7:14 and referenced in the New Testament passages Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 1:26-38.
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Interesting. How did things get so ugly...you'd think there would be more 'brotherly love' going on...?
 
Shalimar said:
Hmmm. As for a supposed knowledge of Islam, I disagree. Anyone can find bits of religious text in the Quran, the bible etc. that glorify all manner of heinous acts. Sir, you are a bigot, because you specifically target Muslims, ignoring acts of domestic terrorism committed by those not of that faith.
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Wrong, the terrorists are the bigots who can not tolerate anyone not a Muslim.
 
Shalimar said:
Really, acts of domestic terrorism committed by right wing Christians don't count?
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Who are the right wing Christians and what were their domestic terrorism's committed?

Were all the rest of the Christian's then left wing and what were they doing?
 
Same nonsense printed over and over. Once would have been more than enough. Many of those efforts were not Christian and I wonder if the Christian church even accepts some of that stuff you posted. Most was far right, definitely not Christian and should be recognized as such and not loaded on to the Christian Churches.

Some of that far far right stuff puts in into the same arena that Hitler worked in. Radical and not Republic enough to be considered to be USA stuff either. Lots of stuff the US will have to handle and take care of. To consider all those far far right folks to be representing the US government is sure not a fact at all. No more correct thinking they are true Americans than saying those that really want communism to be our way are true Americans either.

Sorry, but this post points out problems we all must try to fix or avoid. Being right is one correct way to be, just as being left is one correct way to be. Neither should be allowed to fully control our government and our path. And if our Congress were running properly, neither side would be blocking the other for helping to get balanced solutions to problems. All members of Congress do have a right to vote as they feel.
 
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72 DHS Employees on Terrorist Watch List

BY: Adam Kredo
December 6, 2015 4:12 pm
At least 72 employees at the Department of Homeland Security are listed on the U.S. terrorist watch list, according to a Democratic lawmaker.

Rep. Stephen Lynch (D., Mass.) disclosed that a congressional investigation recently found that at least 72 people working at DHS also “were on the terrorist watch list.”


“Back in August, we did an investigation—the inspector general did—of the Department of Homeland Security, and they had 72 individuals that were on the terrorist watch list that were actually working at the Department of Homeland Security,” Lynch told Boston Public Radio.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/72-dhs-employees-on-terrorist-watch-list/

Makes meaning of the saying "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

It's harder to accept Pres Obama's assurance that his administration already is doing an adequate job screening refugees from Syria, when employees at Homeland Security are not screened enough to not hire those on a terrorists watch list.
 
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BobF said:
Sorry, but this post points out problems we all must try to fix or avoid. Being right is one correct way to be, just as being left is one correct way to be. Neither should be allowed to fully control our government and our path.
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Very true Bob, if we're smart, we'll try to make sure that neither party has complete control of our government.
 
QuickSilver said:
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-a...ks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men

from QS' link said:
The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984. One of the most absurd claims some Republicans have made about white supremacists is that they are liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given what amounted to life sentences..
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Right wingers remember the death of Alan Berg as an example of their hatred for outspoken liberals.

It's pretty clear who the right-wing considers heroes an who they consider as villains.
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