Where did all the employees go?

I don't understand why we had plenty of employees prior to Covid 19, but now we don't. And before there are multiple posts about people living large on stimulus, and unemployment benefits, if you were a minimum wage worker before Covid, you aren't hauling down any big bucks on unemployment, which is a percentage of your previous pay.
 

Suspect the potential employee pool varies depending on locale. During Covid people in urban areas took a lot of their frustrations (with masking, social distancing, product shortages) out on minimum wage workers who were saddled with extra duties, sanitizing surfaces, equipment etc, not to mention being expected to work extra shifts because of people who got sick, or quit (maybe due to a loved one being diagnosed or dieing from Covid).

On top of that Covid hit around the time more people were realizing what Mike Rowe and i have been saying for years: Utility workers, public transport workers, factory, trades people and food service workers are essential to keeping society running, but don't get nearly the respect or compensation they deserve. Covid made it more obvious. So a lot of people may be rethinking, may be looking for other options.

My daughter worked 7 days a week for over half of 2020. She manages a small hotel in our small town, for that period the state mandated that motels be reduce the number of rooms they rent per night. Good thing because until the experts figured out how long (really shorter than they first thought) this virus survived on various surfaces it gave housekeeping more time to thoroughly clean the rooms. And guess who ended up doing that several days a week? My DD! The difference between her and a lot of such workers was her bosses appreciated what she was doing. She got an unscheduled raise during that time and a bonus. And they verbally acknowledged how much she was doing. You think many of the chain stores and franchise eatery managers did?
 

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Oh and a bunch of people went into pandemic already overworked from having 2 thankless minimum wage jobs, which likely didn't help their immune systems any. Not to mention both jobs probably wanting them to put in 'more' hours but of course not a minute over 40 weekly which would require OT pay.
 
I think that a lot of the former employees and staying home and taking care of their children. The twenty to fourty year old group, husband and wife with children. With both parents working there is a need for child care and the covid is making that dificult. Maybe a lot of couples make the same ammount of take home pay with just one of them working than both of them working and paying child care and other associated costs.
 
In February 2020, there was 63.3% of the civilian population (259,628,000) over 16 or 164,448,000 individuals either employed or actively seeking employment. Currently 161,354,000 or 61.6% of the civilian population (261,766,000) are employed or actively seeking employment. The actively employed or seeking employment has seen over 3 million leave the workforce. Hence the lower and lower unemployment rate.
On top of that we should consider that 6+ million new high school and college graduates (2020,2021) have entered the workforce, indicating that 9 million people that were working in February 2020 are no longer working or actively seeking work.

I don't know the reason, but it would appear it is showing some permanency and possibly the skill sets that left do not match the current pool of unemployed. Labor Force Participation.
 
Makes no sense to me either. People need income. They just don't walk away unless they can replace their income or increase it.
 
I read that the unemployment rate is currently 4.8%.

It used to be that 4-6% unemployment was good or reasonable.

IMO the current situation is a combination of media hype and underemployment.

People appear to be changing jobs at a record rate to take advantage of signing bonuses, better benefits, and higher wages.

I suspect that things will settle down when this fades from the news cycle like so many HOT topics that panic us these days.

Try not to buy into the noise, all any of us have ever needed to worry about is finding one decent job to support ourselves and the people that we care about.
 
I read that the unemployment rate is currently 4.8%.

It used to be that 4-6% unemployment was good or reasonable.

IMO the current situation is a combination of media hype and underemployment.

People appear to be changing jobs at a record rate to take advantage of signing bonuses, better benefits, and higher wages.

I suspect that things will settle down when this fades from the news cycle like so many HOT topics that panic us these days.

Try not to buy into the noise, all any of us have ever needed to worry about is finding one decent job to support ourselves and the people that we care about.

Agree here. .............. I'll add, anything to sell news air-time.
 
On a local TV channel, there's a distribution center that advertises for fork lift operators. The ad has been running for months. I don't think you need some kind of special license, and intense training to operate a forklift. Yet they still are asking for help. It sounds like you walk in at 8 Am, and by 8:01, you're hired.????????
 
I heard on the radio yesterday a program on these young people quitting their jobs. Apparently some are looking for jobs they like. Others want to "travel the world." Hey, where are they going to get the money to travel the world? Maybe their parents are keeping these people in their basements so these kids have no concept about paying bills?
 
On top of that Covid hit around the time more people were realizing what Mike Rowe and i have been saying for years: Utility workers, public transport workers, factory, trades people and food service workers are essential to keeping society running, but don't get nearly the respect or compensation they deserve. Covid made it more obvious. So a lot of people may be rethinking, may be looking for other options.
Good point, I've been thinking along this same track.
 
I think part of it is that many people are tired of working crap jobs with terrible pay and few to no benefits, so they are trying to find something better. Also I think many families figured out it didn't pay for both partners to work if childcare ate up most of the salary of the partner who earned less.
 
Some people died(over 700,000), some people retired, some people decided to stay home with their kids, some people gave up and retreated to their screens or went into self employment gigs.
OH, and some were let go temporarily due to lack of business and then never brought back--now too old to be hired elsewhere at that level so gave up and retired officially--happened to several at my workplace.
 
We have the world's largest Frito Lay plant not far from me in our town. On the chain-link fence around the place, there are huge signs on it saying we are hiring $20.00 to $42.00 an hr.

Problem is that's a farce. Several of my friends that are great mechanics or truck drivers went there to get a job. Ages from 28 to 32. They gave them a stupid test no one could do, so they never got hired.

Now the kicker is our government is "paying" these companies to have signs like this but not actually hiring people. Every person goes in & takes that stupid test, that's more $$$ from the government.

This is per one relative that works in the office there.
 
Now the kicker is our government is "paying" these companies to have signs like this but not actually hiring people. Every person goes in & takes that stupid test, that's more $$$ from the government
And you know the kicker HOW? Where does this come from? Link please.
 
On a local TV channel, there's a distribution center that advertises for fork lift operators. The ad has been running for months. I don't think you need some kind of special license, and intense training to operate a forklift. Yet they still are asking for help. It sounds like you walk in at 8 Am, and by 8:01, you're hired.????????
My husband was a fork lift operator for years. Actually, you do need a special operator's license to drive a fork lift. The company he worked for trained you, gave you a written and driving test, then you received your license. I forget how many years it was good for, but every few years he had to take the test again and got a new license.
 

Where did all the employees go?​


I haven't read thru all the posts, but for a long while now, I thought folks were staying home to just collect unemployment.

However

I'm rethinking;,

Babysitting issues
Working with other folks and in the public (lotsa covid contact (vaccine or not)

To mention a couple

I'm no longer passing judgement
 
The younger generation are making millions, literally multi-millions at the age of 16, on Instagram, viral videos, and online businesses....so why would they want a job battling rush hour traffic to get there, working everyday wearing a mask, risking their health, answering to a boss, sitting in an office cubby, and having to learn a trade while making $10 an hour...only to find out they can't afford an apartment let alone a house because the government and inflation robs them.
 
Yup
Lotsa safety issues
Runnin' those forks thru a pallet that sits three tiers up takes a bit of finesse, let alone bringing one down, or taking one up.

Gotta know your equipment
Gotta know what the heck you're doin'
You wouldn't believe some of the stories he came home and told me about some of the other fork lift drivers. They would back into posts, stab product, drop pallets, run into each other...some people just aren't cut out for the job even though they pass the test! One thing that drove him crazy was people just walking around the warehouse and didn't give a thought to stepping out in front of a fork lift. Or behind one that was backing up. They were supposed to stay in pedestrian walkways...yeah, right. One time my husband lost patience with one of the people walking around outside of the pedestrian area and yelled, do you have a death wish? Turned out it was the CEO and the man was well mannered enough to apologize.
 
And you know the kicker HOW? Where does this come from? Link please.
No link. Just a relative that works in the office & told me this. As she is the one giving the tests that no one can pass.
 


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