Where does God live?

Well, in the scriptures, the new Jerusalem (Heaven) is depicted as a city, with gold streets, and precious stones everywhere, a huge throne, and a tree of life, and a river.
That being said, I have some logistical and societal questions.

A rough estimate of the believers that have lived and died throughout history since the time of Christ is estimated to be around 100 billion. The population of the world now stands at 8 billion, so that's over 10 times the population of the entire world. Now that's gonna be one crowded city, with no public transportation. Even if everyone could fly to get around, just imagine how crowded that sky would be. Besides, what's the point of having streets of gold if you are not driving on them. If you've ever been in a city of 1 million and seen the traffic problem, just try to imagine 100 thousand million.

Most likely no one would be eating anything because there would be no sewer system that could handle 100 billion people. So if there is no eating and drinking, no going to work, no watching TV, or playing games, or raising kids, or grocery shopping, or sleeping, or spending time on the forum, what is left besides worship. I can't imagine that many people crowded around one throne 24 /7 for eternity.

I think at the time this stuff was written, they were thinking of a population the size of one of their existing cities. I don't think they imagined what that population would be over 2000 years down the road.
 

bobcat said:
So if there is no eating and drinking, no going to work, no watching TV, or playing games, or raising kids, or grocery shopping, or sleeping, or spending time on the forum, what is left besides worship. I can't imagine that many people crowded around one throne 24 /7 for eternity.
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I've thought about that too.
 

MACKTEXAS said:
I've thought about that too.
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Presumably mankind's trivial pleasures will no longer be of concern once we experience total worship 24/7 without distraction for the rest of eternity. Nothing else will be necessary or provided.

I'll say it again, "Hallowed be the Ori!"

But then, that's only what grandma thought. Muslim heaven leans heavily on a sexual pleasures that my grandma would label so foul that redemption would never be possible. So it's all very complicated. Also, all Catholics will go to Hell. She was quite sure of that.
 
Moses hit his Tee shot in the water. .... Moses parted the water and retrieved his, pitched it up within 8 feet of the cup.
Moses got a ride on a golf cart.

Jesus hit his Tee shot in the Water. .... Jesus walked out across the water, but his ball didn't float. Walked back to the drop zone and pitched, it
Landed near the cup. Jesus lost by a stroke.

The Lord hit his Tee shot, struck an Eagle, Ball dropped to the water, fish caught it, Eagle, fished the fish, fish dropped the ball into the Cup.
Eagle had dinner. A crow had leftovers. Tree Frogs sang a lovely song. Mardi gras danced in the streets. John walks up to his sitting Donkey
and says, "I bet you haven't got anything to say do you ? Hah-Hah_Haw_ Haw _ Haw !
 
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bobcat said:
So if there is no eating and drinking, no going to work, no watching TV, or playing games, or raising kids, or grocery shopping, or sleeping, or spending time on the forum, what is left besides worship. I can't imagine that many people crowded around one throne 24 /7 for eternity.
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I used to think about a joke that I head once, and wondered what some people would think IF it was real...

A man dies and goes to Heaven. Standing at the Pearly Gates he hears the best slide guitar blues he's ever heard. So he asks St. Peter if it was Duane Allman.

St. Peter replied "No, that's God. He just thinks he's Duane Allman."

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The man that made me a Bluser... :)
 
bobcat said:
According to most of the Bible, the general concept was that he lives in Heaven. But, does that mean another dimension, or outside of our galaxy, or beyond the boundaries of the universe, or a parallel universe?
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I'd think HE is actually Heaven -- the whole of the universe in which no evil, nor strife of any kind exists.
bobcat said:
On the other hand, some believe that God is omnipresent (Meaning everywhere). However, that would mean he is in evil people as well as God's chosen, and he is a resident of strip clubs and cage matches (Meaning there is nowhere you could go where he isn't present). But, it could mean he is in all nature as a life force (In which case "He" isn't a male), but just an essence and is actually life itself, perhaps even without consciousness.
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"God is neither male nor female. He has no need to be a gender." I see Him as the wholly forever conscious creator of all universes. He created us, and all things. And gave Mankind the freedom to not be His puppets.
(........would mean He is in all people.....) Of course not IN all people, but when one accepts Holy and sinless Jesus Christ into their lives, God's Holy spirit is then free to enter our souls, guide our choices --it's up to us to "listen" to that inner feeling of the Holy Spirit's guiding.

Some choose to believe that if you become a Christian, then God dwells in your heart (Which must be your consciousness),

"...I believe we have a soul--not being in any body part, but our thinking, our emotions, our minds, our decisions, even our personality. That which goes on when our "vessel" dies. I imagine God givesus back our vessel made healthy/perfect. To live forever in His newly created Earth.......and then, who know's,

 
Were mostly water, carbon and Calcium. So much of our history were gods of Air and Water.
Of Course, gods of culture, physical abilities and wisdom.

Most likely there are other planets in the Milky Way with life on them. Just not our types here.
Most likely, the smarter one's thought the Milkey way is the Dirty OB!

If they have no H2O Salt oceans maybe their god is the one of Sand or Maybe Methane more likely!
So, their God is Al Gas!

All, I think therefore I am, the self-aware creatures need something to believe in. Maybe believing in a finite time
is foolish when you are aware of the amount of time having passed in the - our creation to now.

One day another Galaxy is destined to mix and then all hell will break loose as two massive Blackholes do the dance.
I wonder who will compose the Music. Most likely our cinders will be part of their dance from the outside drug around
into it. Of course, our star may be already dying by then.

 
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If he /she or it resides on this planet then I suggest he/she or it gets a grip because the present incumbents are doing their best to destroy it, which means he/she or it will have to start all over again.
 
Oldeagle66 said:
I believe GOD is in everything, everyone and started everything. He has plans for everything but we are too consumed with our own worldly lives and impatience to listen or accept anything else.
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There is no grand design and as far as being consumed with my own worldly life and impatience to accept anything else is a bold statement that you cannot prove or backup. To have such insight to include everyone
He has plans for everything but we are too consumed with our own worldly lives and impatience to listen or accept anything else.
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Must certainly be a tremendous burden to bear?
 
Of Course an unlimited, forever / time less / space / MT place would have a Creative plan or something similar.
A Space-time MT place full of plans for a future is sort of a no brainer to get it.

"My Son you just not very Lucky" ___ ... :ROFLMAO: .....

MSN
 
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@bobcat >>>"...That being said, I have some logistical and societal questions..."

John 6:53–58, Jesus says, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

Obviously, only a minority of the world's people since 2000+ years ago have gone to Christian churches and only some of those have practiced per Jesus's request. This is a primary reason I regularly attend Sunday Catholic masses. Notice the emphasis "Very truly..." I won't abandon Jesus's churches many well meaning generally good people for the sake of false denomination dogmas men later created or sinful insincere members that attend for the sake of public approval. Jesus set the bar low but most have been too lazy even for that to take notice then prefer to chase wealth and sex.

Thus Bob, if such is true there ought be plenty of space in Heaven if just for those that practice so. But then what of all the narratives of our many Christian denominations most of which tend to make it sound like one just needs to sort of be a nice person, sort of keep the Ten Commandments, and sometimes go to church? Well none of that is in New Testament scripture but was added by denominations, some of which was likely for church self serving purposes of increasing membership.

And the whole otherwise "One will go to Hell" narratives that are immensely church self serving due to fears making people go to church, are simply illogical and scripturally supported by the weakest statements. Of course, if God can save good people God would also be able to send SOME truly evil types into an internal Hell. But highly unlikely innocents that never even had any Christian ideas presented to them or young babies and children. That was our human and church tasks.

No. Everyone else probably just ends up dead forever lost like stepped on bugs, dust to dust. Some might ask how could such be as it is not fair? Well life has never been fair. When Jesus left to Heaven then handed over what he taught to apostles especially Peter, it would forever forward be up to them to spread the Good News and the rest of us to continue to do so.

On other posts, I talked about organic microbots being injected into our human bloodstreams. Another easier way for UIEs to do so would be to secretly put such into church wine blood and host bread supplies. Such materials could be readily chemically, spectrally, and or radiologically identified by UIEs, vastly reducing possible numbers of humans qualifying minimally for eternal life and vastly reducing tracking the few that do.
 
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David777 said:
@bobcat >>>"...That being said, I have some logistical and societal questions..."

John 6:53–58, Jesus says, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”

Obviously, only a minority of the world's people since 2000+ years ago have gone to Christian churches and only some of those have practiced per Jesus's request. This is a primary reason I regularly attend Sunday Catholic masses. Notice the emphasis "Very truly..." I won't abandon Jesus's churches many well meaning generally good people for the sake of false denomination dogmas men later created or sinful insincere members that attend for the sake of public approval. Jesus set the bar low but most have been too lazy even for that to take notice then prefer to chase wealth and sex.

Thus Bob, if such is true there ought be plenty of space in Heaven if just for those that practice so. But then what of all the narratives of our many Christian denominations most of which tend to make it sound like one just needs to sort of be a nice person, sort of keep the Ten Commandments, and sometimes go to church? Well none of that is in New Testament scripture but was added by denominations, some of which was likely for church self serving purposes of increasing membership.

And the whole otherwise "One will go to Hell" narratives that are immensely church self serving due to fears making people go to church, are simply illogical and scripturally supported by the weakest statements. Of course, if God can save good people God would also be able to send SOME truly evil types into an internal Hell. But highly unlikely innocents that never even had any Christian ideas presented to them or young babies and children. That was our human and church tasks.

No. Everyone else probably just ends up dead forever lost like stepped on bugs, dust to dust. Some might ask how could such be as it is not fair? Well life has never been fair. When Jesus left to Heaven then handed over what he taught to apostles especially Peter, it would forever forward be up to them to spread the Good News and the rest of us to continue to do so.

On other posts, I talked about organic microbots being injected into our human bloodstreams. Another easier way for UIEs to do so would be to secretly put such into church wine blood and host bread supplies. Such materials could be readily chemically, spectrally, and or radiologically identified by UIEs, vastly reducing possible numbers of humans qualifying minimally for eternal life and vastly reducing tracking the few that do.
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Fair enough. You believe what you believe.
 
David777 said:
@bobcat >>>"...That being said, I have some logistical and societal questions..."

John 6:53–58, Jesus says, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”
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Was so disgusted and appalled when I first read this, I immediately understood why he lost the overwhelming majority of his 'flock.'

Unnatural, Nosferatu stuff.
 
David777 said:
@bobcat >>>"...That being said, I have some logistical and societal questions..."

John 6:53–58, Jesus says, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
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That part probably inspired the song Silent Night.

This part of the lyrics

Silent night, holy night
All is calm, all is bright
Round yon Virgin, Mother and Child
Holy Infant so tender and mild
 
Knight said:
I'm still trying to imagine what a being billions of years old that plans everyone's life looks like. Even more curious as to why planning has such diverse outcomes.
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There isn't any OT/NT Bible scripture stating God or Jesus elaborately plans people's lives. That dogma was conveniently created by supposedly "inspired" OOO denominations in more recent centuries arguably for their own benefit of more churchgoers.

Instead when Jesus left, it seems he gave the baton to Peter and it then became mostly OUR human responsibility. God of the OT spent centuries trying to help Israelites to be a holy example for the rest of the world, but its good people have always been far overwhelmed by more numerous evil doers and especially warmongers, power, and wealth seekers. In any case, my inputs are not beliefs but rather leaning speculations.
 
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