I think it may involve the same technology that allows Santa Claus to visit all those homes on Christmas Eve.
Where does God live?
- Thread starter bobcat
- Start date
Christ is not confined by space, distance, time, nor numbers of diseased when it comes to reaching all at their time of death. Try to understand Christ's being is not finite.
Mr. Ed
Be what you is not what you what you ain’t
- Location
- Central NY
God likes his/her/its privacy so if I told you where god lives how do I know you won't bug him/her/its or ask for his/her/its autograph?
My understanding is that he/she/they only attends the true believers and this skews the logistics downwards.
MACKTEXAS
Senior Member
You're still here, Elsie? Just leave them to console each other. [Matthew 7:6]
There is a famous instruction in the bible for meditation. Psalm 46:10, "Be still and know that I am God."
Very simply, just repeat the sentence during 'Mindfulness meditation'--that is, with every exhalation, while sitting alone and relaxed in a quiet place, repeat the whole sentence, or just part of it, like, "Be still." Or simply "I am,"--or any combination--repeating it silently or softly to yourself, keeping focused on the words.
Very simply, just repeat the sentence during 'Mindfulness meditation'--that is, with every exhalation, while sitting alone and relaxed in a quiet place, repeat the whole sentence, or just part of it, like, "Be still." Or simply "I am,"--or any combination--repeating it silently or softly to yourself, keeping focused on the words.
Last edited:
bobcat
Well-known Member
- Location
- Northern Calif
There wouldn't be any point in it anyway. It's one thing to get the autograph, but good luck trying to convince anyone else it's his.
Knight
Well-known Member
A written autograph.
This was then.
Ten Commandments, list of religious precepts that, according to various passages in Exodus and Deuteronomy, were divinely revealed to Moses on Mount Sinai and were engraved on two tablets of stone
Now a signature would be posted on a social media platform to get "likes"
VaughanJB
Scrappy VIP
Nah, he's everywhere all the time. Which is a frivolous statement on my behalf, though it seems to be the "answer". Which is yet another bridge I can't cross (sic). It just makes no sense to me. I can only think of it in terms of ones belief of God sits in our mind (described in this case as our heart) and that we carry that belief around with us at all times. But if that's it, then God isn't actually there - it's just your belief.
There's a lot in the Bible which ought to go by under the name of "magic". Right from the off, a talking snake would have to be magic..... I don't believe in magic.
Mr. Ed
Be what you is not what you what you ain’t
- Location
- Central NY
This is boring and speculative. There are lot's of answers here and yet this thread continues to drive. Truth is many of us here refuse to question their beliefs or how they came to believe as they do.
What ever works for you does not work for everyone, therefore this is one of those discussion that according to their beliefs the answers are (1) god does not exist, (2) god does exist according to one's faith or belief, (3) or my take on god's existence that consist of feelings of acceptance, connectedness, love and wisdom come from one's mind usually after much discipline or study and/or from trauma that pushes singular reality from one hemisphere of the brain to the other. Enlightenment is simply a different way of thinking from what a person is used to.
I was taught growing up that I am a useless sinner according to christianity and I will always be nothing without christ in my life. The truth is I learned how to be totally honest with myself and by doing this I was reconciled by forgiving self, thus wiping away any regret or wrongdoings I have done. My slate is clean and to keep it this way I do not engage in activities I deem harmful to self or others.
Discernment comes from knowing your yourself and choosing the kind of life you want to live. You don't god or Jesus to forgive you to accomplish forgiveness, you can do that yourself, if you are completely honest with yourself.
Sins are only scars of regret and guilt that certain religions use as a means of control and conformity. Sin does not exist outside of religious dogma, but many people buy into the notion of sin from fear and abandonment from god's grace as they have been taught to do. The only way to free yourself from religion, if that's what you want to do, is question everything. Including blind acceptance of believer's faith.
I maintained a belief in god even after I dismissed the reality of Jesus. What I learned was godlike qualities, gifts and wisdom come from within the brain not from the assumption that god controls heaven and earth. God does not judge nor does create, destroy, reward or punish sinners. God only exists within the minds that entertain such nonsense.
This is my opinion and as much valid as yours.
What ever works for you does not work for everyone, therefore this is one of those discussion that according to their beliefs the answers are (1) god does not exist, (2) god does exist according to one's faith or belief, (3) or my take on god's existence that consist of feelings of acceptance, connectedness, love and wisdom come from one's mind usually after much discipline or study and/or from trauma that pushes singular reality from one hemisphere of the brain to the other. Enlightenment is simply a different way of thinking from what a person is used to.
I was taught growing up that I am a useless sinner according to christianity and I will always be nothing without christ in my life. The truth is I learned how to be totally honest with myself and by doing this I was reconciled by forgiving self, thus wiping away any regret or wrongdoings I have done. My slate is clean and to keep it this way I do not engage in activities I deem harmful to self or others.
Discernment comes from knowing your yourself and choosing the kind of life you want to live. You don't god or Jesus to forgive you to accomplish forgiveness, you can do that yourself, if you are completely honest with yourself.
Sins are only scars of regret and guilt that certain religions use as a means of control and conformity. Sin does not exist outside of religious dogma, but many people buy into the notion of sin from fear and abandonment from god's grace as they have been taught to do. The only way to free yourself from religion, if that's what you want to do, is question everything. Including blind acceptance of believer's faith.
I maintained a belief in god even after I dismissed the reality of Jesus. What I learned was godlike qualities, gifts and wisdom come from within the brain not from the assumption that god controls heaven and earth. God does not judge nor does create, destroy, reward or punish sinners. God only exists within the minds that entertain such nonsense.
This is my opinion and as much valid as yours.
papa tiger
Well-known Member
Did you know that Atheism is a Non-Profit organization?
Magna-Carta
Senior Member
- Location
- UK
A non-profit organisation that receives no tax relief.
papa tiger
Well-known Member
You know chocolate covered pretzels are a hit at every party !
-------------------
Religions murder / Sacrifices / bones at the bottoms of post holes.
Pushed off volcanic rims to appease etc.
How many every year, since forever?
------------------
Why wouldn't all living hear / witness the same law / every day, all day.
Why the free will mumbo jumbo. You have none.
--------------------------
How much of the Past was just incest, in-breads, basically a lot of really
Twisted up, Physically and mentally crazy people !
-------------------
Expansion of Humanity more about the sane / healthy, rea; family love & healthy
running like hell from a pack of Crazies.
------------
Of course the obvious is easier, the Incest / Physical warped and crazies driven out makes more sense.
But then the whole of the Human race survived and warped too!
-----------
You know that works best! Billions of really sick here carrying on!
-------------------
Religions murder / Sacrifices / bones at the bottoms of post holes.
Pushed off volcanic rims to appease etc.
How many every year, since forever?
------------------
Why wouldn't all living hear / witness the same law / every day, all day.
Why the free will mumbo jumbo. You have none.
--------------------------
How much of the Past was just incest, in-breads, basically a lot of really
Twisted up, Physically and mentally crazy people !
-------------------
Expansion of Humanity more about the sane / healthy, rea; family love & healthy
running like hell from a pack of Crazies.
------------
Of course the obvious is easier, the Incest / Physical warped and crazies driven out makes more sense.
But then the whole of the Human race survived and warped too!
-----------
You know that works best! Billions of really sick here carrying on!
Last edited:
Warrigal
SF VIP
- Location
- Sydney, Australia
Your words, or copy and paste?
Are in-breads anything like chocolate covered pretzels or is that a different sort of snack?
rbtvgo
Member
- Location
- Absecon, new jersey
This is all ridiculousness. You will care when it is your time. You will wonder.
In the mean time you offer opinions, you pontificate..................you have it all figured out, RIGHT!
You all write to offer opinions, suggestions, beliefs, ..........................but you don't know, so that's why your here.
There are other forums where you can connect. Why this one. Why be here. Go else where, More satisfying, more attuned to your beliefs.
Why here?
Because you don't know AND you want to know.
You really want to know? simple.......close your eyes, clear you mind and call to God. No appropriate words. Just call to him.
I don't have your answers. I don't have the solution. I do know that without Gods voice, everyday, I would be lost. This doesn't help you, I know.
It is my refuge, however, and he has not failed me. I could not live life any other way.
bob
In the mean time you offer opinions, you pontificate..................you have it all figured out, RIGHT!
You all write to offer opinions, suggestions, beliefs, ..........................but you don't know, so that's why your here.
There are other forums where you can connect. Why this one. Why be here. Go else where, More satisfying, more attuned to your beliefs.
Why here?
Because you don't know AND you want to know.
You really want to know? simple.......close your eyes, clear you mind and call to God. No appropriate words. Just call to him.
I don't have your answers. I don't have the solution. I do know that without Gods voice, everyday, I would be lost. This doesn't help you, I know.
It is my refuge, however, and he has not failed me. I could not live life any other way.
bob
I regret to inform you that I must decline your invitation to leave. "Why here?" You ask, it's because this space fosters intelligent conversation, with many individuals who have a penchant for science and seek definitive explanations for phenomena they may not fully comprehend.
If this discussion about "Where does God live" offends or disturbs you, perhaps it is you in the wrong place. Although, I don't think anyone has demeaned you or invited you to leave simply because they have a different point of view than yours.
Magna-Carta
Senior Member
- Location
- UK
As I read through this thread, it seems that each of us who has posted has given our opinion. In effect, all of us have been invited to share our opinions by virtue of the question, "Where does God live?". Along with the opening post from the OP, which to me seems to set the tone of exploring different viewpoints -- partly philosophically and existentially, and partly through the OP's own scepticism and self awareness, with a bit of humour from the OP for good measure.
In reality, regarding this thread and its question, that's all we have -- our individual opinions. Not unless some of us have a direct link to a superior power and 'know' exactly the answer to the question, and to other similar matters.
Let's not berate each other, be dismissive, or suggest people should leave for having an opinion that might not fall in line with their own. Or for having opinions that some might feel doesn't belong in this forum. And let’s avoid doing so by offering only one’s own opinion of others opinions. I hope no one is feeling threatened by other people's 'opinions'.
Reason and evidence can be a burden to some. To others, by their nature, they are only able to move forward with their own reasoning, based on some evidence and logic. Lets not deny people who they are. First, they must convince themselves before attempting to convince others. And, for the most part, they don’t have a desire to convince others. From what I can see within this thread, no one has it "all figured out, RIGHT!"
In reality, regarding this thread and its question, that's all we have -- our individual opinions. Not unless some of us have a direct link to a superior power and 'know' exactly the answer to the question, and to other similar matters.
Let's not berate each other, be dismissive, or suggest people should leave for having an opinion that might not fall in line with their own. Or for having opinions that some might feel doesn't belong in this forum. And let’s avoid doing so by offering only one’s own opinion of others opinions. I hope no one is feeling threatened by other people's 'opinions'.
Reason and evidence can be a burden to some. To others, by their nature, they are only able to move forward with their own reasoning, based on some evidence and logic. Lets not deny people who they are. First, they must convince themselves before attempting to convince others. And, for the most part, they don’t have a desire to convince others. From what I can see within this thread, no one has it "all figured out, RIGHT!"
Last edited:
MarkD
Keeper of the Hounds & Garden
- Location
- San Francisco Bay Area
I think that’s what it is really about. Any heaven would have to include right now and it is a byproduct of living a meaningful life.
gruntlabor
Well-known Member
- Location
- Last Frontier, Age 82
Sadly, rbtvgo, I believe you have been misunderstood. You were not telling people to leave. You were offering your belief that our being here on this thread is proof that we are not entirely certain in our conclusions.
With respect, I disagree, mostly due to this statement from rbtvgo:
"There are other forums where you can connect. Why this one. Why be here. Go else where, More satisfying, more attuned to your beliefs."
bobcat
Well-known Member
- Location
- Northern Calif
The whole purpose of the thread was not intended to be a discussion of whether God exists or not. There have been many of those, and I really didn't want to re-hash that.
The purpose was to delve deeper into the superficial answer that is often given that either God lives in heaven, or God lives in the heart, or both.
If God lives in the heart, do you mean the mind, or brain, and if so, where exactly? Is there a special place in the brain, or is it in the neurons and connections, and if you could remove them one by one, does God disappear. If a person gets Alzheimer's, and doesn't know who God is, is he gone? When you say God lives in your heart, do you mean he is a disembodied entity that just floats around in your body? If you say he communicates with you, are you hearing an actual voice, or is it the same as your thoughts? Thoughts are constructed from neuronal connections.
If you say God lives within your mind as a spirit, do you mean your life energy, and if so, how is your life energy different from that same life energy in a non-believer? Do you believe everyone has a spirit, and inviting God in somehow alters that life energy? If everyone has a spirit, did it arrive at birth and does it go somewhere else at death? Is God independent of the life energy in your body, and you now have an additional energy entity living in your body?
If you say God lives in heaven, where is that? Is it in another dimension undetectable by telescopes? Is he in an energy form? Is it the same energy that science has been able to detect in space, or something different?
Sorry to ask all the questions, but I find canned answers meaningless. If you don't know how or where God exists, just say you don't know, and that's that. But, if you claim to know God lives in the heart (Mind), or in heaven, then we can explore the specifics.
The purpose was to delve deeper into the superficial answer that is often given that either God lives in heaven, or God lives in the heart, or both.
If God lives in the heart, do you mean the mind, or brain, and if so, where exactly? Is there a special place in the brain, or is it in the neurons and connections, and if you could remove them one by one, does God disappear. If a person gets Alzheimer's, and doesn't know who God is, is he gone? When you say God lives in your heart, do you mean he is a disembodied entity that just floats around in your body? If you say he communicates with you, are you hearing an actual voice, or is it the same as your thoughts? Thoughts are constructed from neuronal connections.
If you say God lives within your mind as a spirit, do you mean your life energy, and if so, how is your life energy different from that same life energy in a non-believer? Do you believe everyone has a spirit, and inviting God in somehow alters that life energy? If everyone has a spirit, did it arrive at birth and does it go somewhere else at death? Is God independent of the life energy in your body, and you now have an additional energy entity living in your body?
If you say God lives in heaven, where is that? Is it in another dimension undetectable by telescopes? Is he in an energy form? Is it the same energy that science has been able to detect in space, or something different?
Sorry to ask all the questions, but I find canned answers meaningless. If you don't know how or where God exists, just say you don't know, and that's that. But, if you claim to know God lives in the heart (Mind), or in heaven, then we can explore the specifics.
papa tiger
Well-known Member
I got a feeling he made his home, early on, care of our Balz first!
It seemed like every time I thought I had a great Idear, I got the pains soon after.
It seemed like every time I thought I had a great Idear, I got the pains soon after.
MarkD
Keeper of the Hounds & Garden
- Location
- San Francisco Bay Area
Uh huh.
So you just want to have a discussion in which everyone concedes at the start that the only possible meaning for anyone who understands God to dwell in their heart is to first to recognize it must be really in the grey matter.
So you don’t want to argue over whether God exists. You’d prefer to have a discussion in which everyone agrees to accept the postulates of your personal opinion. Maybe you should just discuss it with yourself?
Last edited:
Capt Lightning
Well-known Member
- Location
- Historic Buchan, Scotland
Does it really matter?