where is AZ Jim?

Seabreeze , @Matrix and everyone i"m sorry to have been the one to have imparted such sad news.. :( , we can only hope he's not in pain, and being looked after very well.
No need to apologize Holly, I for one appreciate that you let us know about what was going on with Jim. 🧡 I too hope they're taking good care of him and hope his family is visiting him in hospice.
 

So many times you hear of one spouse grieving the deceased spouse, losing the will to live and following them to the other side. Especially couples that have been married for 50 years or more. Nursing home workers speak of those that pass even within days of each other.
I don't happen to agree with that reasoning. That makes it sound like the surviving spouse died because they "didn't care about living anymore." More likely, they died because they were close in age, along with the health problems that come with age. Unless someone committed suicide, they died because it was their time.
 
Although some of us enjoy an online 'family', we also want our privacy in times of mourning or poor health. I would want to be left alone and wouldn't appreciate anyone trying to research my personal information or call the authorities to check on me.

That's the way I feel Bea, If I am no longer posting here, just let me go. If I was capable and wanted to, I would go to the computer. I hope you're around for a long, long time Bea, I've always enjoyed your posts, humor and kindness.

I apologize for getting carried away being the forum ''detective'', I am embarrassed by my snooping. I promise I will mind my own business from now on. I have also thrown away my note to my daughter to inform the forum of my future passing. As most of you seem to feel, "If I am no longer posting here, just let me go". Seems to me like a very good plan.
 

I don't happen to agree with that reasoning. That makes it sound like the surviving spouse died because they "didn't care about living anymore." More likely, they died because they were close in age, along with the health problems that come with age. Unless someone committed suicide, they died because it was their time.
Potentially,... but in Jims' particular circumstance, it was fact. He actually said it on several occasions that he wished he was still with his wife, and couldn't wait to join her. I feel he was not only unwell physically as she had been also, , but the depression that descended on him after she died was so bad, he lost the will to live...
 
@Catlady I am sorry you feel we would not care if you suddenly disappeared. I have belonged to several forums over the years where longtime members have passed away, and the forum members welcomed being informed of their passing. Especially in a couple cases where forum members followed, sadly, their journey through their final illnesses. It made for good closure for the members.

I, personally, do not mind your detective status. Many of us have become quite attached to our online friends, and do miss them when they are no longer around, or go missing. It is your decision if you want someone to let the forum know if you pass on. But I hope you reconsider if that is important to you.

@hollydolly if you happen to hear anything more on Jim through your online connections, I hope you will feel comfortable to share with us.
 
I apologize for getting carried away being the forum ''detective'', I am embarrassed by my snooping. I promise I will mind my own business from now on. I have also thrown away my note to my daughter to inform the forum of my future passing. As most of you seem to feel, "If I am no longer posting here, just let me go". Seems to me like a very good plan.
I don't think you were carried away at all Catlady, a lot of people feel like you do, I was just expressing my personal thoughts on it. If I felt I was not going to be around anymore, I would consider giving my husband my password and having him log in to inform everyone that I passed on. In my case honestly, he might eventually grant my wish for that, but he would definitely be devastated and in mourning for a long time afterward and likely never get around to doing it.
 
Potentially,... but in Jims' particular circumstance, it was fact. He actually said it on several occasions that he wished he was still with his wife, and couldn't wait to join her. I feel he was not only unwell physically as she had been also, , but the depression that descended on him after she died was so bad, he lost the will to live...
My inlaws passed within three weeks of each other, they were both elderly and in very poor health. I agree that in many cases, depending on their health and state of mind when their spouse was living, they may very well lose the will to go on alone. Our physical health depends a great deal on our mental health also, one can have very negative effects on the other. They do 'die of a broken heart' to some degree, but physical condition has a lot to do with it in general.
 
My inlaws passed within three weeks of each other, they were both elderly and in very poor health. I agree that in many cases, depending on their health and state of mind when their spouse was living, they may very well lose the will to go on alone. Our physical health depends a great deal on our mental health also, one can have very negative effects on the other. They do 'die of a broken heart' to some degree, but physical condition has a lot to do with it in general.
I personally believe that "stress" is present in every illness and the stress of losing a loved one can have a tremendous impact on the human body. If you decide you don't want to go on without the loved one , that its also your time to move on and send "shut down" messages to your body, it can have the power to affect overall health.

Forget what someone dies from, they do die. Whatever weakness may be present in their body can be exacerbated. Thoughts are powerful "things". That has been proven. There have been studies done on the spousal survival issues.
 
My inlaws passed within three weeks of each other, they were both elderly and in very poor health. I agree that in many cases, depending on their health and state of mind when their spouse was living, they may very well lose the will to go on alone. Our physical health depends a great deal on our mental health also, one can have very negative effects on the other. They do 'die of a broken heart' to some degree, but physical condition has a lot to do with it in general.
This happens often. It’s shouldn’t seem surprising.
Love can move mountains. Maybe that’s why the movie ‘Notebook’ was so popular, they died together in their sleep. A romantic and happy ending.
 
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I hope this isn’t considered hijacking Jim’s thread but that was such a beautiful story Mike. Even their family rules were so loving and respectful. What an incredibly loving family. ❤️

We hope you are ok Jim. 🌹
 
I don't happen to agree with that reasoning. That makes it sound like the surviving spouse died because they "didn't care about living anymore." More likely, they died because they were close in age, along with the health problems that come with age. Unless someone committed suicide, they died because it was their time.
While you may not agree with the reasoning presented, it's a phenomenon I've observed, firsthand: My gmil died of a stroke after being married to my gfil for sixty years. He was in good health, active, and intelligent. Within three days of her passing, he manifested terrible symptoms that put him in the hospital. He became late four days later.

Dying of a broken heart involves great stress from many conditions never experienced before, including profound loneliness and sorrow. Medical literature does, in fact, have articles that reference those who pass within days, or even hours, of each other due to physical symptoms that appear, seemingly out of nowhere, including heart attacks.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, even if it's incorrect, as judged by the evidence that exists.

Please research "broken heart syndrome" and "complicated grief," online.
 
My mother's brother and his wife ---- 57 yrs married and each almost never left the other's side for last twenty, both elderly and with health problems but still active and enjoying life. He died early AM from sudden heart attack.

She was upset but able to begin to do the necessary things required of her during the day. Went to bed that night and just didn't wake up. Dr. could find no reason and definitely not a suicide. She was so looking forward to seeing grandchildren arriving the next day.

The double funeral a couple days later just seemed 'right' somehow.
 
I agree with you Liberty. Although some of us enjoy an online 'family', we also want our privacy in times of mourning or poor health. I would want to be left alone and wouldn't appreciate anyone trying to research my personal information or call the authorities to check on me. Most folks have someone they are in contact with, even if just a neighbor. If someone felt vulnerable and needed someone here to stay in contact with toward the end of their life, or if in mourning, they could always make a mutual arrangement for that with another member here privately.



Thanks so much Holly for letting us know about Jim, so sorry to hear he is in hospice. He is a good person, and I'll miss seeing him here very much. :(



That's the way I feel Bea, If I am no longer posting here, just let me go. If I was capable and wanted to, I would go to the computer. I hope you're around for a long, long time Bea, I've always enjoyed your posts, humor and kindness.
Isn't it nice to at least know someone cares?
 


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