Who is able and going to put the SS increase into savings

[Teacher Terry]

Keyword is SOME and not all are unemployable….some can work from home and bring in extra income .

the problem is this whole work from home thing has not been adopted yet as criteria for determining whether someone should either be given payments or kept on payments

I have been retired for 10 years but vocational rehabilitation hires job placement specialists to help people find jobs and have relationships with employers. When a vocational expert does a vocational assessment they include everything that factors into the decision for SSDI and I would be very surprised if that didn’t include work from home. However, I have a younger friend still working in the field so will ask her tomorrow.

 

[Teacher Terry]

...pays for those that can but won't work.

And tacitly allowing this situation is the very definition of a permissive society. It *permits* this to routinely take place.

Some people because of their severe disabilities can only work part time. Some of you have no clue how difficult it is to obtain unless you have a terminal diagnosis. I have seen people in my program be denied for over 2 years and lose everything while waiting and some becoming homeless.

Of course you always have losers that don’t want to work but usually they are weeded out fairly quickly. They give the public the wrong impression. Wait until you know someone that becomes disabled without family to help and then you will be whining why doesn’t the government help.

 

[Sawfish]

Some people because of their severe disabilities can only work part time. Some of you have no clue how difficult it is to obtain unless you have a terminal diagnosis. I have seen people in my program be denied for over 2 years and lose everything while waiting and some becoming homeless.

Of course you always have losers that don’t want to work but usually they are weeded out fairly quickly. They give the public the wrong impression. Wait until you know someone that becomes disabled without family to help and then you will be whining why doesn’t the government help.

To make it clear, I was ONLY referring to the losers.

 

[Knight]

Of course you always have losers that don’t want to work but usually they are weeded out fairly quickly.

For some info I read this.

Top 10 Disability Fraud Statistics and Facts​

• The disability fraud incidence rate in the US is lower than 1%.
• Cooperative Disability Investigations Program greatly helps with fraud prevention.
• Social Security fraud can lead to five years in prison.
• The financial punishment for disability fraud may go up to $250,000.
• Doctors participating in disability fraud can face up to 10 years in prison.
• There were 345,000 suspicious disability claims in California at the beginning of 2022.
• EDD flagged 27,000 medical provider accounts as suspicious in early 2022 in California.
• National Slam the Scam Day is celebrated on March 10.
• Disability benefits recipients live only five years after getting approved for benefits.
• A whopping 63% of the SSDI applications get denied.

https://websitebuilder.org/blog/22-disability-fraud-statistics-on-social-security-for-2022/

That was only a snippet there is more to read in the article.

That less than 1% really doesn't say much when one state [California] had 345,000 suspicious disability claims & EDD flagged 27,000 medical provider accounts as suspicious. For purposes of this part of the thread that veered off topic it would be great if a tally of the other 49 states were presented.

 

[mathjak107]

However , they think fraud is lower , but they can’t measure what they don’t know just like crime reports here in ny are not accurate as many don’t bother to report them .

the mere fact we saw Ssdi rolls soar ten times what they were says something’s up .

don’t forget boomers are going off Ssdi and on to ss retirement for years .

the Ssdi roll should be plunging , and while dropping slightly it is no where near as down as it should be .

Ssdi already went bust and had. To be refunded with money from ss retirement via the. Bipartisan act .

so you can’t measure what you don’t know is happening , you can only measure what you catch


All of the disabled are classified into three categories: Improvement Expected, Improvement Possible and Improvement Not Expected.

Someone with a spinal chord injury is classified as Improvement Not Expected, but even so, their case is automatically reviewed every 5 to 7 years to determine if they should continue receiving benefits.

Where you have Improvement Expected, their case is reviewed every 6 to 18 months. It's 3 years for all others.

About 3.5 Million of the 10.1 Million on Disability have mental disorders. Of those, 1.5 Million have "Mood Disorders" and the rest are autistic, mentally disabled, have congenital brain defects, head injuries, or are schizophrenic.

Social Security doesn't require the 1.5 Million with "Mood Disorders" to be involved in any treatment program, but they should. They should be required to attend weekly treatment sessions, and if they fail to do so, they need to be terminated.