Why an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France

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GREED was the conclusion. " it’s a free-for-all. Providers largely charge what they can get away with, often offering different prices to different insurers, and an even higher price to the uninsured."

"There is a simple reason health care in the United States costs more than it does anywhere else: The prices are higher.
That may sound obvious. But it is, in fact, key to understanding one of the most pressing problems facing our economy. In 2009, Americans spent $7,960 per person on health care. Our neighbors in Canada spent $4,808. The Germans spent $4,218. The French, $3,978. If we had the per-person costs of any of those countries, America’s deficits would vanish. Workers would have much more money in their pockets. Our economy would grow more quickly, as our exports would be more competitive.


There are many possible explanations for why Americans pay so much more. It could be that we’re sicker. Or that we go to the doctor more frequently. But health researchers have largely discarded these theories. As Gerard Anderson, Uwe Reinhardt, Peter Hussey and Varduhi Petrosyan put it in the title of their influential 2003 study on international health-care costs, “it’s the prices, stupid.”
As it’s difficult to get good data on prices, that paper blamed prices largely by eliminating the other possible culprits. They authors considered, for instance, the idea that Americans were simply using more health-care services, but on close inspection, found that Americans don’t see the doctor more often or stay longer in the hospital than residents of other countries. Quite the opposite, actually. We spend less time in the hospital than Germans and see the doctor less often than the Canadians.
“The United States spends more on health care than any of the other OECD countries spend, without providing more services than the other countries do,” they concluded. “This suggests that the difference in spending is mostly attributable to higher prices of goods and services.”


On Friday, the International Federation of Health Plans — a global insurance trade association that includes more than 100 insurers in 25 countries — released more direct evidence. It surveyed its members on the prices paid for 23 medical services and products in different countries, asking after everything from a routine doctor’s visit to a dose of Lipitor to coronary bypass surgery. And in 22 of 23 cases, Americans are paying higher prices than residents of other developed countries. Usually, we’re paying quite a bit more. The exception is cataract surgery, which appears to be costlier in Switzerland, though cheaper everywhere else.
Prices don’t explain all of the difference between America and other countries. But they do explain a big chunk of it. The question, of course, is why Americans pay such high prices — and why we haven’t done anything about it.
“Other countries negotiate very aggressively with the providers and set rates that are much lower than we do,” Anderson says. They do this in one of two ways. In countries such as Canada and Britain, prices are set by the government. In others, such as Germany and Japan, they’re set by providers and insurers sitting in a room and coming to an agreement, with the government stepping in to set prices if they fail.
In America, Medicare and Medicaid negotiate prices on behalf of their tens of millions of members and, not coincidentally, purchase care at a substantial markdown from the commercial average. But outside that, it’s a free-for-all. Providers largely charge what they can get away with, often offering different prices to different insurers, and an even higher price to the uninsured."


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You might have just answered my question about my post here about an MRI after a knee replacement. Probably at the age of 86 my Insurance doesn't want to pay for the MRI. That could be my answer.
 
the cost of an ambulance trip of one mile costs over $1300 usd. the ems/emt workers are not even paid by the local medical center but by a private company even after the cost of the ambulance was paid for by donations, garage sales, bake sales and the maintainence is by a private company.....go figure
 
Of course US costs are higher for health care and medical assistance because costs are a reflection of the high standards by which society subscribes itself to. It is not uncommon for society to be sealed off from outside influences to preserve the integrity of local costs and objectives.
Unless you are a world traveler most everyone living in the US must pay according to one's lifestyle, and even then there are significant discrepancy in costs and privileges according to financial/social status.
 
Of course US costs are higher for health care and medical assistance because costs are a reflection of the high standards by which society subscribes itself to. It is not uncommon for society to be sealed off from outside influences to preserve the integrity of local costs and objectives.
Unless you are a world traveler most everyone living in the US must pay according to one's lifestyle, and even then there are significant discrepancy in costs and privileges according to financial/social status.
hahaha,....are you suggesting that compared to the USA, The UK & France are third world countries when it comes to medical assistance ? You may find that in actual fact most of your money go into Insurance broker, and Physicians pockets... not better medical treatment
 
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Several years ago we used to travel in the USA and we joined a travel club in order to stay with real American families rather than cold, impersonal motels. In almost all the conversations we had about Canada/US medical affairs, the biggest supporters of the American system were former military people who had nice pension and all their medical services paid for. They had no idea of how the poor in the US suffer. The US has a lot of poverty and you seldom see it in movies. I'm not going to say here where the wealth of the US goes due to the fact that we are not suppose to discuss politics. However, these 2 photos taken in the "City of Angels" speak a lot about a significant portion of the American population. Propaganda says poverty in India. Reality says try downtown LA.
 

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