ClassicRockr
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There is no determination for this. Most families have such love and compassion for the old/older family members, they don’t want to approach them about anything that would make them unhappy.
Why do you want a gun?
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There is no determination for this. Most families have such love and compassion for the old/older family members, they don’t want to approach them about anything that would make them unhappy.
This is an extremely good point.
ClassicRockr
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Another good-to-great point about the "love and compassion" for a loved one is true.
That’s an even better one indeed. :thankyou1:
JB in SC
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We approached the car and gun issue with my father in law a few years ago, he has Alzheimer's. Driving can be the easier of the two to remedy legally, many states allow driver testing of someone that is having issues. A doctor can notify the Motor Vehicle department that a person is incapable of driving, they will suspend the person's license. But that doesn't imply they won't drive without a license. A car is person's last bit of independence. Disabling the car is easy and sometimes the mere presence of a car is enough to placate a person.
In the US, without court intervention, it's very difficult to remove a person's firearms legally. We removed all of them from the house after a long long discussion and agreement he didn't need them. Firearms can be "made safe" but nothing short of a court intervention will keep them from buying another.
ClassicRockr
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Yep, can tell the different personalities of the people that like guns and own them and those that don't and won't. My SIL would be totally, and I mean "totally" afraid to touch one, let alone shoot one. But, that's her personality. My wife, her sister, is 100% different (thank God).
fmdog44
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How often do you get behind the wheel in a week versus holing a gun in your hands? Plus enter the insurance companies love of making money not entered in to the gun calculation.
Aputernut17
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We, I especially do not like owning a gun, but after you read my story you will know why we (DH) now has a 9mm and a permit to carry etc. One night several years ago around midnight, Dh was asleep, I heard a noise outside our bedrm.
I went into the bathroom, potty rm. and heard voices and strange noises right outside the window, I alerted DH and he peeked out our bedrm. window and saw 4 guys in hoodies, he said call 911, I picked up the phone and it was dead! so I grabbed our cell a flip phone which I knew made a melodious sound when turned on, so I took it to the other side of the house and into a walk-in closet and made the call, she said, no police are in your area but we will get one there as soon as possible, stay on the phone, the perps came around the house after cutting all lines that they could, to our side door/laundry room, our security system was set but at that door, they would need to cut a screen, which they did and break the glass and when that door is opened then the alarm would go off.
It took cops 14 mins. to get here, they had just cut the screen, the cop came silently no lights etc. but the perps saw him and ran, we had so many police cars here and the canine unit till 3AM they tried a police dog, but he did not get the scent, then a bloodhound which got the scent, and they tracked the guys, but along the way they dropped all their weapons a 357 Magnum hunting knives and more.
All we had at the time was a kitchen knife, the cops told us we were very lucky, 2 of these punks were wanted in 3 other states on capital crimes which is murder/rape. So now our security system has been beefed up to the max.
it is wireless so no wire cutting will effect it and we have 8 sec. camera's around our home, plus motion activated lights and as discussed a gun, with the clip in, safety on, but never fired, hope it never needs to be! DH was in the army so knows how to use it. The cops said we may have been killed, no doubt!
And so this is why we own a gun, that night was so much more traumatic then the Cat 4/5 hurricane we spent 2 hrs. in a walk-in closet waiting out. And this happened in an upscale suburban neighborhood, not in a low income, or city area, so you never know.
I went into the bathroom, potty rm. and heard voices and strange noises right outside the window, I alerted DH and he peeked out our bedrm. window and saw 4 guys in hoodies, he said call 911, I picked up the phone and it was dead! so I grabbed our cell a flip phone which I knew made a melodious sound when turned on, so I took it to the other side of the house and into a walk-in closet and made the call, she said, no police are in your area but we will get one there as soon as possible, stay on the phone, the perps came around the house after cutting all lines that they could, to our side door/laundry room, our security system was set but at that door, they would need to cut a screen, which they did and break the glass and when that door is opened then the alarm would go off.
It took cops 14 mins. to get here, they had just cut the screen, the cop came silently no lights etc. but the perps saw him and ran, we had so many police cars here and the canine unit till 3AM they tried a police dog, but he did not get the scent, then a bloodhound which got the scent, and they tracked the guys, but along the way they dropped all their weapons a 357 Magnum hunting knives and more.
All we had at the time was a kitchen knife, the cops told us we were very lucky, 2 of these punks were wanted in 3 other states on capital crimes which is murder/rape. So now our security system has been beefed up to the max.
it is wireless so no wire cutting will effect it and we have 8 sec. camera's around our home, plus motion activated lights and as discussed a gun, with the clip in, safety on, but never fired, hope it never needs to be! DH was in the army so knows how to use it. The cops said we may have been killed, no doubt!
And so this is why we own a gun, that night was so much more traumatic then the Cat 4/5 hurricane we spent 2 hrs. in a walk-in closet waiting out. And this happened in an upscale suburban neighborhood, not in a low income, or city area, so you never know.
Robusta
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- upstate New York
You are doing yourself a major disservice by having an unfired gun in your house. If you are not familiar and practiced with it, you may just as wel hand it to the bad guy when they come into your house.
Now, Both you and your husband need to join a club or find a commercial range that offers both target and tactical defense lessons. You both need to fire several hundred rounds, until you know your weapon inside and out.
Having an unused weapon in your home makes you a poster child for irresponsible gun ownership.
ClassicRockr
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Understand what you are saying, BUT, her husband was in the Army. I'd think he'd really know how to use it, but it should be fired at a range, if at all possible. We went to a local range and shot as soon as we got our first firearm, the .22 rifle, and have been to the range with each firearm we've bought.
Big Horn
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- Cody, Wyoming
Make your next gun a.22, ideally one that is very similar to the 9mm in size and weight. Take it to a range or, better still, go out to the country where you can find a safe and legal place to shoot. Set up some cans or a reactive target and blast away. A .22 has no felt recoil and it's not noisy. It's fun, as millions before you have learned. When you're ready to leave fire a few rounds through the gun as well. New guns are like cars in that they work better in use.
You need to learn how to shoot too; your husband can't be constantly be with you. Besides, I've never met a woman who didn't love shooting once she learned. Many of the top target shooters in the world are women. I once met a woman with a girl of nine or ten who were out in brush country with a few guns. Mother was teaching daughter to shoot. Neither of them is likely to be a victim.
Now, go and have some fun shooting.
I just thought of something else. You can get pellet guns that resemble many popular handguns in size and weight. When it's cold or dark you can shoot safely right in your house.
Robusta
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- upstate New York
Even if he was in the ARMY he did not use a 9MM. Shooting is NOT like riding a bicycle, you forget you get rusty. Each arm is an entity unto itself, you need to know yours.
Aputernut17
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- SW FL. USA
The gun we have is brand new and we plan to never use it, so will sell it one day as new, as I said DH was in the army and knows how to fire a gun and being brand new, we expect it to work. If he passes before me, I will get rid of it ASAP. We are now 80 & 74 yrs. old will not be going to a gun range etc. But will rely on our to the MAX security anyone approaches this house will be recorded on any one of our 8 camera's w/night vision and audio and will have one of many spot lights in the face, so they will not stick around. We feel very safe in our home and the gun will stay right where it is until we get rid of it.
RadishRose
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- Connecticut, USA
If your DH wasn't home or away from hearing distance and an intruder was coming in, what would you do with the gun?
ClassicRockr
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I guess this is why you are asking this.......right? If the husband's wife wants nothing to do with the gun, just what would she do towards an intruder? Sort of surprising, a gun in the house with two people living there and only one of them can protect the both of them? Yes, odd.
Robusta
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- upstate New York
I,m sorry. I will not be a nice guy. I am a staunch defender and lover of the second amendment. Having an unloved gun around is dangerous. You are telling me that at 3 in the morning your husband will be able to fumble arounf in the nightstand, load and arm a weapon he has never used before, and be effective? You are living in La La land.
I will predict right now what will happen if you are ever broken into, Your husband will be shot or bludgeoned as he fumbles around, you will be shot bludgeoned and possibly raped before the bad guy steals your paper weight and it ends up another unaccounted for gun on the street.
Why oh why did you purchase an item that you have no intention of using? Nothing but an accident waiting to happen. Please go to the nearest gun shop and sell this weapon before you hurt yourself or enable someone else to use the gun illegally!
I will predict right now what will happen if you are ever broken into, Your husband will be shot or bludgeoned as he fumbles around, you will be shot bludgeoned and possibly raped before the bad guy steals your paper weight and it ends up another unaccounted for gun on the street.
Why oh why did you purchase an item that you have no intention of using? Nothing but an accident waiting to happen. Please go to the nearest gun shop and sell this weapon before you hurt yourself or enable someone else to use the gun illegally!
ClassicRockr
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squatting dog
We don't have as far to go, as we've already been
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- Arkansas, and also Florida
this is why I advocate the use of a double action revolver. when a gun is needed, it's usually under stressful circumstance's. No time to try to remember how the safety works and then chamber a round quietly unless you have had a lot of practice, and even then iffy at best because of the conditions. Revolver... point and pull the trigger. nothing complex about it.
Don M.
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- central Missouri
That's right...if a person is going to own a firearm, they need to know how to use it. A "novice" gun owner, who doesn't practice with the weapon is more likely to hurt themselves or an innocent bystander, than to ward off a criminal. In addition, a firearm needs to be fired, cleaned and properly lubricated periodically to insure that it will work properly if/when needed.
ClassicRockr
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All TRUE!!
JB in SC
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I see far too many novice gun owners with semi-auto pistols. They have no idea how to clear a malfunction, nor do they get the necessary training to become proficient. We had a city council member shoot herself (minor wound) while "unloading" a Glock 27, she racked the slide, removed the magazine, and pulled the trigger. I doubt it would have happened if she owned a revolver.
Aputernut17
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- SW FL. USA
If ya'll are talking about me? the only time we are not together at home is when DH goes out grocery shopping during the day, my doors are locked and if an intruder got in and had no weapon he would get his ass kicked bigtime by me a big 5'11" kick ass woman... trust me I can do it! so no worries we're all good here. plus we got neighbors all around and we look out for each other, if we see strangers around or strange vehicles, we let each other know ASAP.
fmdog44
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- Houston, Texas
Below is from TheDailywire.com
Rulemakers in the village of Deerfield, Illinois, have voted unanimously to ban semi-automatic rifles, along with pistols and shotguns "with certain features," as well as with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
The ban passed Monday night outlaws any weapon the village leaders deem "assault weapons," including AR-15s. But the ban also includes “semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns with certain features.”
"This is our fight. This is our generation's fight, and we're going to keep fighting," Deerfield High School student Ariella Kharasch said at a public hearing, according to ABC-7 in Chicago. "Thank you for being part of that."
The new ordinance takes effect June 13. Residents who still have banned weapons after that date face up to $1,000 fines per day.
The new ordinance was modeled on a ban put in place in Highland Park, Illinois, which went to the United States Supreme Court. The high court let a lower court ruling allowing the ban stand.
"If Highland Park, if Deerfield, if more towns say no to this type of weapon, maybe the state of Illinois says no," said Deerfield Village Manager Kent Street. "Maybe the federal government says no."
Opponents said the ban would make residents less safe, ABC reported.
"You are the bureaucrats that Thomas Jefferson warned us about," said Deerfield resident Dan Cox.
“There were a lot of emotional arguments and not a lot based on fact,” said Daniel Easterday, according to CBS Chicago. “Deerfield is a very crime free community, and I don’t see how this is going to make it any more crime free.”
"Larry Nordal of Deerfield cited their rights under the Second Amendment and expressed fear that more restrictive laws would be passed in the future," the Chicago Tribune reported.
Rulemakers in the village of Deerfield, Illinois, have voted unanimously to ban semi-automatic rifles, along with pistols and shotguns "with certain features," as well as with magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.
The ban passed Monday night outlaws any weapon the village leaders deem "assault weapons," including AR-15s. But the ban also includes “semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns with certain features.”
"This is our fight. This is our generation's fight, and we're going to keep fighting," Deerfield High School student Ariella Kharasch said at a public hearing, according to ABC-7 in Chicago. "Thank you for being part of that."
The new ordinance takes effect June 13. Residents who still have banned weapons after that date face up to $1,000 fines per day.
The new ordinance was modeled on a ban put in place in Highland Park, Illinois, which went to the United States Supreme Court. The high court let a lower court ruling allowing the ban stand.
"If Highland Park, if Deerfield, if more towns say no to this type of weapon, maybe the state of Illinois says no," said Deerfield Village Manager Kent Street. "Maybe the federal government says no."
Opponents said the ban would make residents less safe, ABC reported.
"You are the bureaucrats that Thomas Jefferson warned us about," said Deerfield resident Dan Cox.
“There were a lot of emotional arguments and not a lot based on fact,” said Daniel Easterday, according to CBS Chicago. “Deerfield is a very crime free community, and I don’t see how this is going to make it any more crime free.”
"Larry Nordal of Deerfield cited their rights under the Second Amendment and expressed fear that more restrictive laws would be passed in the future," the Chicago Tribune reported.