Why do you want a gun?

ClassicRockr said:
But, that is YOU and that is fine. People who don't like firearms plainly shouldn't be around them. Sounds like you need a "big city" guy for a boyfriend. One that doesn't like firearms either.
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Teasing people with a gun is an absolute no no with responsible gun owners. It's a weapon, not a toy.
 

I've heard that guns are supposed to be the ultimate phallic symbol and what good ole' boy doesn't want to enhance his junk collection.
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Bingo, Helen! And that's the, er, long and short of it.
 

To get back to a serious discussion again, I agree with Camper's point. Who is to say what a "tyrannical government" is? The terminology which was appropriate in the 18th century for a small colony subject to oppression by a monarchy, does not really apply to 21st century America. Who or what is tyrannical? What if someone decides that the current administration is tyrannical? Does that give them the right to stalk the president or members of Congress and then fire away, because they are opposing "tyranny?" Wouldn't that be an instant ticket to the loony bin or prison, in the modern world?

About the red state people needing protection from the blue state people, I don't even understand what that means. Are the blue state residents "coming to get" the red state people, who must protect their farmland homes with firearms day and night? What is that supposed to mean, anyway? (An ugly racist connotation comes to mind; I hope that is not what was meant!)
 
I got a new burn barrel. Instead of spending several boring hours drilling ventilation holes into it, my wife and I just spent the last hour shooting targets drawn on it.
Efficient and enjoyable way to accomplish an otherwise tedious task.
 
911 said:
I just enjoy going to the range and shooting different guns. My son and Grandsons have more guns than I do, so I get to shoot maybe 12-14 different guns. It's just fun hitting the targets. However, nothing beats my Glock .45.
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I REALLY like "911" reasons for owning. Wife and I feel the same way. However, if someone was to possibly try to break into our apartment, while we were asleep, the key to our gun/rifle cabinet is very handy and I already have a 9mm clip full and ready to insert into the gun. Now, could I actually shoot someone, that, to tell the truth, I don't know.

If the person trying to get in was persistent in getting in, I'd (most likely) "aim and shoot", perhaps multiple times..........end of story!
 
Robusta said:
I got a new burn barrel. Instead of spending several boring hours drilling ventilation holes into it, my wife and I just spent the last hour shooting targets drawn on it.
Efficient and enjoyable way to accomplish an otherwise tedious task.
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Wow! That's pretty powerful. The burn barrel I had was galvanized steel and heavy.

I doubt a .22 could penetrate the one I had.
 
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I don't do videos. Can't hear a word. What did he say basically in a few words. Was he for or against?
 
He doesn't want anyone to take away his guns, because he is a law-abiding citizen. He feels that if all the good guys have to turn their guns in, the bad guys will take over, and the police are being prevented from stopping them.
 
Sunny said:
He doesn't want anyone to take away his guns, because he is a law-abiding citizen. He feels that if all the good guys have to turn their guns in, the bad guys will take over, and the police are being prevented from stopping them.
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And he is correct. (But I believe I read that he doesn't own any guns. He just believes in the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.)
 
Camper6 said:
Wow! That's pretty powerful. The burn barrel I had was galvanized steel and heavy.

I doubt a .22 could penetrate the one I had.
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This is just a well traveled 55 gallon drum. I got it from an Apple grower up towards Lake Ontario in Orchard Country. He ships truck loads of Apples to China each year. This drum was manufactured in Buffalo, shipped to China where it was fitted with a plastic bladder and filled with Chinese Apple Juice Concentrate. It was then shipped to one of the juice plants by the lake. One use drum. Buffalo - china to Williamson NY.

We were using An old Stevens .22 pump, .20 gauge shotgun, and a .38 Caliber Revolver.
 
Sunny said:
To get back to a serious discussion again, I agree with Camper's point. Who is to say what a "tyrannical government" is? The terminology which was appropriate in the 18th century for a small colony subject to oppression by a monarchy, does not really apply to 21st century America. Who or what is tyrannical? What if someone decides that the current administration is tyrannical? Does that give them the right to stalk the president or members of Congress and then fire away, because they are opposing "tyranny?" Wouldn't that be an instant ticket to the loony bin or prison, in the modern world?

About the red state people needing protection from the blue state people, I don't even understand what that means. Are the blue state residents "coming to get" the red state people, who must protect their farmland homes with firearms day and night? What is that supposed to mean, anyway? (An ugly racist connotation comes to mind; I hope that is not what was meant!)
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Great post. There is also a section in the Constitution dealing with treason. So before anyone starts talking about stopping a 'tyrannical government' they better be ready to deal with treason.

My opinion of a tryrannical government is one that raises taxes. That's what started the revolution and it hasn't stopped.
 
Robusta said:
This is just a well traveled 55 gallon drum. I got it from an Apple grower up towards Lake Ontario in Orchard Country. He ships truck loads of Apples to China each year. This drum was manufactured in Buffalo, shipped to China where it was fitted with a plastic bladder and filled with Chinese Apple Juice Concentrate. It was then shipped to one of the juice plants by the lake. One use drum. Buffalo - china to Williamson NY.

We were using An old Stevens .22 pump, .20 gauge shotgun, and a .38 Caliber Revolver.
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Just think how much faster it would be with an AR-15. L.O.L.
 
A little off topic but I am still shaking my head in disbelief that teachers should carry loaded guns to protect their students.

April 11, 2018 10:25 PM

Not the most normal sight: a gun left in the bathroom stall.
But that's exactly what went down on Sunday in a men's room at the Deerfield Beach Pier.

The circumstances of how the Glock 9mm got there are unusual.
According to the Broward Sheriff's Office, the weapon was left by Sean Simpson.
If his name sounds familiar, he's the teacher at Marjory Stoneman Douglas who said he'd be willing to arm himself while on duty.

According to the sheriff's office report, Simpson told deputies he'd left his gun by accident.
By the time the chemistry teacher realized his mistake, the Glock was already in the hands of a drunk homeless man who had picked it up and fired. The bullet hit a wall.

Simpson was able to grab the gun away from the vagrant, Joseph Spataro, who was charged with firing a weapon while intoxicated and trespassing.

As for the MSD teacher, he was arrested and charged with failing to safely store a firearm, a second-degree misdemeanor.
Simpson posted a $250 cash bond and was released.
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This does nothing for my confidence in the value of having teachers carrying on campus.
 
Warrigal said:
A little off topic but I am still shaking my head in disbelief that teachers should carry loaded guns to protect their students.



This does nothing for my confidence in the value of having teachers carrying on campus.
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Purely a reflection of your younger years and training.

Is there anything wrong with the Swiss and their ability to have weapons at hand at all times? Not only permitted but required at times.

Having willing teachers carry a gun during class is but a bit of insurance against those kill crazy shooters. Some one willing to step forward when needed and end the killers ability to just keep killing more. Not all would be required to carry, just the ones ready to defend the students as best as possible.

The Swiss have got it right. All become part of the military, all keep weapons at home, all keep their weapons at home while on duty and may keep them after ending their military duty.
 
Well, my barber has a 9mm in a box next to his station. He is the owner. Another barber, that use to work for him in the same shop, carried a 9mm in a holster under his work smock. The area of the shop is not bad at all. IOW, very little-to-no crime at all. But, guess the own of the shop wants to be ready, just in case.
 
BobF said:
Purely a reflection of your younger years and training.

Is there anything wrong with the Swiss and their ability to have weapons at hand at all times? Not only permitted but required at times.

Having willing teachers carry a gun during class is but a bit of insurance against those kill crazy shooters. Some one willing to step forward when needed and end the killers ability to just keep killing more. Not all would be required to carry, just the ones ready to defend the students as best as possible.

The Swiss have got it right. All become part of the military, all keep weapons at home, all keep their weapons at home while on duty and may keep them after ending their military duty.
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Ex military. But the gun controls in Switzerland are strict and regulated for civilians.

It's a different culture. My niece lives there.

They don't have the Second Amendment.

Re teachers carrying guns. I have a tough time imagining a teacher shooting a former student. Also if the shooter is carrying an AR-15 and the teacher has a handgun, it's not a fair fight.

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to say that something has to be done about those high capacity semi-automatic rifles.

In my opinion they don't belong in civilian hands.
 
Ok, I'll play devils advocate. Everyone says something has to be done. Well, what is it that has to be done. Yes, they could stop the sales of any further semi automatic's, but, what does one do with the millions of rifles and I would estimate the multi millions of high capacity magazines that are already out there? See, short of kicking in doors to confiscate, I see no way to cure this.
Of course, my own opinion is maybe... just maybe if certain people would do their job, a lot of nut cases wouldn't be falling through the cracks in the system that we already have in place. (see something, say something won't work if people who should, don't follow up on these actions)
Never ceases to amaze me how law abiding citizens should have to shoulder the burden or be punished for the actions of a very tiny part of the population.
 
squatting dog said:
Ok, I'll play devils advocate. Everyone says something has to be done. Well, what is it that has to be done. Yes, they could stop the sales of any further semi automatic's, but, what does one do with the millions of rifles and I would estimate the multi millions of high capacity magazines that are already out there? See, short of kicking in doors to confiscate, I see no way to cure this.
Of course, my own opinion is maybe... just maybe if certain people would do their job, a lot of nut cases wouldn't be falling through the cracks in the system that we already have in place. (see something, say something won't work if people who should, don't follow up on these actions)
Never ceases to amaze me how law abiding citizens should have to shoulder the burden or be punished for the actions of a very tiny part of the population.
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The same thing they did with automatics. Grandfather them. Is the general public being 'punished' because there are speed limits on the highways? The actions of a very tiny part of the population is to speed and endanger people's lives.
 
Camper6 said:
The same thing they did with automatics. Grandfather them. Is the general public being 'punished' because there are speed limits on the highways? The actions of a very tiny part of the population is to speed and endanger people's lives.
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Yes, and those speeders are usually not deterred by signs.
 
C'est Moi said:
Yes, and those speeders are usually not deterred by signs.
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That's fine but if they get caught it's because of the law and the signs and if they insist on breaking the law their license to drive gets suspended. If they try driving without a license and get caught they go to jail for awhile. That settles them down.

Without the law you can't do anything about the speeders. It's for the benefit of society.

Now for the question. Are you being punished because you drive sensibly and don't speed?
 
Want?

Need

Authorities here do nothing short of requiring folks to have at least one gun per household.

I have a few
Various artillery for various reasons

My 12 gauge is mostly for knocking snow off high tree limbs when a thaw is on.

My ‘go to’ for protection is the 357 in my bedside drawer

The over/under .410/.22 hanging on a wall peg in the living area is for various night visitors…latest a pole cat.


I don’t carry unless a disturbance has recently passed thru the grapevine, or we go on a hike

I’d hate to be out here without one


Camper6 said:
Wow! That's pretty powerful. The burn barrel I had was galvanized steel and heavy.

I doubt a .22 could penetrate the one I had.
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I’ve driven .22 long rifles thru steel drums without fail, not even full jacket.
‘tis a fun way to install holes in a burn barrel
 
Gary O' said:
Want?

Need

Authorities here do nothing short of requiring folks to have at least one gun per household.

I have a few
Various artillery for various reasons

My 12 gauge is mostly for knocking snow off high tree limbs when a thaw is on.

My ‘go to’ for protection is the 357 in my bedside drawer

The over/under .410/.22 hanging on a wall peg in the living area is for various night visitors…latest a pole cat.


I don’t carry unless a disturbance has recently passed thru the grapevine, or we go on a hike

I’d hate to be out here without one




I’ve driven .22 long rifles thru steel drums without fail, not even full jacket.
‘tis a fun way to install holes in a burn barrel
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I might be able to do it after the burn barrel gets hot and the steel softens but not from a brand new condition unless I'm really close. There are different types of ammunition available for a .22. It's a very popular rifle from the old days.
 

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