Why Does Modern Medicine Have a Problem with Natural Healing

I think Western institutional medicine has a difficult time with alternative medicine simply because it works on different principles.

In Western medicine, it treats symptoms, using intervention. Cholesterol or BP too high - take a pill. Heart attack - angioplasty, stent, or bypass.

Alternative medicine tends to be holistic. They want to work with the body's energies, and gently balance it back to equilibrium.

We use both. It's one of the major reasons why we are happy to live where we do and why we would be reluctant to leave. There is a wealth of practitioners of all schools and cultures to choose from. Our HMO doctors are puzzled by, but not against, the alternative therapies we use to assist the Western medicine.

The downside is that it is expensive. Insurance will not cover most alternative medicine.
 

Lethe200 said:
I think Western institutional medicine has a difficult time with alternative medicine simply because it works on different principles.

In Western medicine, it treats symptoms, using intervention. Cholesterol or BP too high - take a pill. Heart attack - angioplasty, stent, or bypass.

Alternative medicine tends to be holistic. They want to work with the body's energies, and gently balance it back to equilibrium.

We use both. It's one of the major reasons why we are happy to live where we do and why we would be reluctant to leave. There is a wealth of practitioners of all schools and cultures to choose from. Our HMO doctors are puzzled by, but not against, the alternative therapies we use to assist the Western medicine.

The downside is that it is expensive. Insurance will not cover most alternative medicine.
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Yes indeed. Where we live conventional medical tests & treatments are paid for by the government so using both options is the most logical thing to do, for us. Our insurance covers most alternative therapies.
 
Lethe200 said:
I think Western institutional medicine has a difficult time with alternative medicine simply because it works on different principles.

In Western medicine, it treats symptoms, using intervention. Cholesterol or BP too high - take a pill. Heart attack - angioplasty, stent, or bypass.

Alternative medicine tends to be holistic. They want to work with the body's energies, and gently balance it back to equilibrium.

We use both. It's one of the major reasons why we are happy to live where we do and why we would be reluctant to leave. There is a wealth of practitioners of all schools and cultures to choose from. Our HMO doctors are puzzled by, but not against, the alternative therapies we use to assist the Western medicine.

The downside is that it is expensive. Insurance will not cover most alternative medicine.
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The trouble is....as I see it....So any of the alternative / naturopathic ways are slow. Not saying that they do not work...not saying that they are way off base...just saying that IMO the are likely something we should have started years ago....When we were young. As such, do we have time for that approach to be effective? yield a positive ??

I believe there are many here, that know much more than I....hopefully they'll respond ?
 
JaniceM said:
Because natural healing doesn't result in big bucks for pharmaceutical companies and greedy 'health care' providers.
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I agree.

Also, it seems that when we have any type of problem we feel the need to take some sort of immediate action.

I'm a firm believer in watchful waiting or observation to see if things improve/heal with time, rest and proper nutrition or if they get worse.
 
Keesha said:
Yes indeed. Where we live conventional medical tests & treatments are paid for by the government so using both options is the most logical thing to do, for us. Our insurance covers most alternative therapies.
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Do you use supplements, they aren't covered insurance are they? I spend a good deal for my good health and do use both, but very little drugs...BP and thyroid. Worth every penny I spend. You can't put a price on good health. j
 
rgp said:
The trouble is....as I see it....So any of the alternative / naturopathic ways are slow. Not saying that they do not work...not saying that they are way off base...just saying that IMO the are likely something we should have started years ago....When we were young. As such, do we have time for that approach to be effective? yield a positive ??

I believe there are many here, that know much more than I....hopefully they'll respond ?
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When I was young I didn't need supplements, I was strong and able and did so much,,,I started supplements after menopause so that was in my early 50's....So much body changes with menopause.

Getting on Grape Seed Ex in 1995, got me out of allergist office and his injections and all the allergy drugs...haven't touched one in 23 yrs. I was 57.
 
JaniceM said:
Because natural healing doesn't result in big bucks for pharmaceutical companies and greedy 'health care' providers.
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Yes, I see my MD once or twice a year if need be and that is to check in get my refills for my 2 meds and she checks me out. My doctors arrive in a cardboard box from my supplement companies. If something comes up that I can't remedy, then I'll go to a doc. Right now I deal with a narley knee and avoiding knee surgery,, long long story.
 
RadishRose said:
It's a fight on both sides to get the most money. Both are greedy!
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Well, we'll disagree on that one. Pharma will win big with $$$, the modern medical world. Many would love to do more alternatives like acupuncture for example and many can't afford a lot of alternative therapies. I'd love to do PRP for my knee and can't afford it, insurance does not pay any of that work. But pharma is ready to insure surgeries. Everyone is in business to make money.
 
rgp said:
The trouble is....as I see it....So any of the alternative / naturopathic ways are slow. Not saying that they do not work...not saying that they are way off base...just saying that IMO the are likely something we should have started years ago....When we were young. As such, do we have time for that approach to be effective? yield a positive ??

I believe there are many here, that know much more than I....hopefully they'll respond ?
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Alternative medicine does work more slowly. The trouble for most Westerners is they only try to use an acupuncturist, for example, after they've tried everything else that hasn't worked, so the delay in starting holistic treatment is substantial. By that time their system is so out of whack, it takes even longer for the natural healing balance to be restored.

Also, most expect the "one and done" treatment. They aren't always prepared for the idea of coming back once a week for a month, out of pocket. And it's NOT a permanent cure. The imbalance was caused by something specific, and if you insist upon doing the same things that caused the imbalance once, it is likely to eventually happen again.

Since retiring, we have standing monthly appointments with our acupuncturist and acupressurist for sessions. We feel it's a good investment in our health, but we are lucky to be able to afford it.
 
AZ Jim said:
The answer is obvious, natural healing costs the medical world Billions!!!
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No Jim the total opposite...it costs the medical world nothing, we the people pay for our holistic healing. Were you aware there are some 244,000 deaths annually from drug interactions..and that is a conservative number as we are not sure what many people end up dying from.

https://idmprogram.com/the-corruption-of-evidence-based-medicine-killing-for-profit/

https://idmprogram.com/corruption-academic-medicine/


On another health group I'm a member we have a LONG thread going on preventing alzheimers...there is a huge caregiver group and it's sickening to read the pathetic stories of taking care of loved ones with dementia/alzheimers.

There is so much WE can do to help prevent this DREAD ending of one's life. I want to leave with my mind, thank you.
 
Lethe200 said:
Alternative medicine does work more slowly. The trouble for most Westerners is they only try to use an acupuncturist, for example, after they've tried everything else that hasn't worked, so the delay in starting holistic treatment is substantial. By that time their system is so out of whack, it takes even longer for the natural healing balance to be restored.

Also, most expect the "one and done" treatment. They aren't always prepared for the idea of coming back once a week for a month, out of pocket. And it's NOT a permanent cure. The imbalance was caused by something specific, and if you insist upon doing the same things that caused the imbalance once, it is likely to eventually happen again.

Since retiring, we have standing monthly appointments with our acupuncturist and acupressurist for sessions. We feel it's a good investment in our health, but we are lucky to be able to afford it.
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I've been taking supplements for well over 25 yrs, paying out of my pocket...no insurance pays for my approach to healing...but it works FOR ME and can work for many many older people and especially with our aging...who wants to end up with alz/dementia. Just Grape Seed Extract by itself can work on amyloid plaque reduction in the brain.

Pharma drugs only mask the issues, do not get the root of the real issues that are causing the health conditions...don't you see that folks.
 
I'm truly puzzled by this thread. Modern doctors don't embrace "natural healing"? That's not my experience at all. The doctors I've known (socially and as a patient) over the past 15 years almost unfailingly emphasize the following before getting out their prescription pads:

1. Stop smoking
2. Cut way down on alcohol consumption, better yet, quit drinking altogether
3. Get your weight under control, a healthy BMI is 25 or less
4. Get some real exercise and make it a daily habit
5. Eat far less meat, eggs and dairy, and more fruits and vegetables
6. Ditch the high-fat and fast food habits
7. Dramatically cut your sugar and artificial sweetener intake
8. Regularly do some yoga or meditation to relieve stress
9. Sleep 7-8 hours a night
And finally:
10. Please don't think I'm buying your stories of how steadfastly you're following 1-9 above. The aggregate of your results (general skeletomuscular appearance, weight, blood & urine test results, stamina, and blood pressure numbers) give away the truth. Some people may indeed do all of the above and still have a problem with one or two health issues, but not all of their markers will be out of line.

All of these practices help our bodies to heal naturally. Unfortunately most people (Americans, at least) want an easy fix or a pill to solve their health issues. So patients who don't follow their doctors' "natural healing" advice are prescribed meds. What should these doctors do? Let these patients die because they eat McDonald's junk every day?

p.s. I am not generally a fan of Big Pharma and avoid taking meds whenever possible.
 
For some, natural healing just doesn't work, or work as well. Depending on the injury or whatever, seeing a doctor and getting a prescription is the only way to go. There are times that waiting to "see what happens" with an injury can make the injury worse.

My past experience: a few years as an EMT (back in the 70's) and working in Senior Healthcare for 4 1/2 years.
 
StarSong's info is all very important and logical and sensible, but we have a lazy population and highly processed food industries.

I take a very few meds, BP and thyroid and work with supplements to help slow down aging and manage the arthritis that has come to visit my body and never left.

We have a thread going on another group I'm a member, Are Americans Overmedicated??
 
jaminhealth said:
StarSong's info is all very important and logical and sensible, but we have a lazy population and highly processed food industries.

I take a very few meds, BP and thyroid and work with supplements to help slow down aging and manage the arthritis that has come to visit my body and never left.

We have a thread going on another group I'm a member, Are Americans Overmedicated??
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My puzzlement continues. Jamin, are you suggesting modern medicine is to blame for a population that some perceive to be too lazy or unmotivated to employ the "natural healing" their doctors recommend? Or that it's physically difficult to avoid placing potato chips or bacon in our carts rather than beans or produce?

Doctors can only drag us horses to the water, they can't make us to choose to drink it rather than Big Gulp sized cups of Coca Cola.
 
I don't see a puzzle here...I don't go to allopathic MD's and I don't know what they talk about with their patients...in the 10-15 minute appts. I know they have that pad ready to write drugs and a lot walk out with scripts and then end up dealing with all the side effects and then working to withdraw from the drugs. And yes I guess many do OK, I take ibuprofen for OA and would LOVE not to...arthritis has been in my body for over 60 yrs and it has not reversed. But I work with supplements to manage it all.
 
Science doesn't tell me and help me with my body ... trying all that is out there and getting benefits or not. I research everything but science is not doing it for me. Science is finally seeing the benefits of Grape Seed Extract as some cancer research clinics are using it in cancer research of at least 4 cancer models.

The grape and all it's nutrients (skins, seeds, oils) are not a product of science...Nature.

Science and pharma lost me as a buyer of their drugs for allergy/sinus issues when I found Grape Seed Ex decades ago. They don't want more to heal themselves...they lose our business for their drugs.
 
jaminhealth said:
Science doesn't tell me and help me with my body ... trying all that is out there and getting benefits or not. I research everything but science is not doing it for me. Science is finally seeing the benefits of Grape Seed Extract as some cancer research clinics are using it in cancer research of at least 4 cancer models.

The grape and all it's nutrients (skins, seeds, oils) are not a product of science...Nature.

Science and pharma lost me as a buyer of their drugs for allergy/sinus issues when I found Grape Seed Ex decades ago. They don't want more to heal themselves...they lose our business for their drugs.
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Why not just eat a handful of grapes with seeds everyday instead of the adulterated extract form of the same thing? I'm truly interested and not being sarcastic.
 

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