Why mandatory vaccination is nothing new

Doesn't matter to me if mandatory vaccination is new or old. Lots of things were mandatory at one time - slavery, tattoos, medical experiments, kidnapping & murder.
I make my health decisions; no one else does.
A mandate is one thing. I can comply with any mandate. Anyone who physically tries to force a drug or vaccine on me will pay with their life.
 
win231 said:
Anyone who physically tries to force a drug or vaccine on me will pay with their life.
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That's hysterical. If the cops, etc. want to get you they will. You might get one or two, but they'll get you in the end if that's why they came.

I sometimes still think I'm tough too.

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I'm not arguing with you, just some friendly bantering.
 
Pepper said:
That's hysterical. If the cops, etc. want to get you they will. You might get one or two, but they'll get you in the end if that's why they came.

I sometimes still think I'm tough too.

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I'm not arguing with you, just some friendly bantering.
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I'm sure they will & that's OK with me; One or two will do.
And it really doesn't take much toughness to open fire.
 
Alligatorob said:
I can't see that happening, in fact the article talks about enforcement and how it tends to be something between non-existent and financial.
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I can't see that happening either, but these days.....who knows. It looks like they're pushing harder & harder.
 
All right Win, we're all impressed by how tough you are. And we're shaking in our shoes. 😄

But... one question. When have you ever heard of our government or our police, etc. running around with syringes, forcing people to receive a vaccine? In fact, even in the most draconian dictatorship in the world, when has that ever been done?

Isn't that what is meant by a "straw horse?" A ridiculous argument that won't hold up for one second?
 
Sunny said:
All right Win, we're all impressed by how tough you are. And we're shaking in our shoes. 😄

But... one question. When have you ever heard of our government or our police, etc. running around with syringes, forcing people to receive a vaccine? In fact, even in the most draconian dictatorship in the world, when has that ever been done?

Isn't that what is meant by a "straw horse?" A ridiculous argument that won't hold up for one second?
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Well, you seem to be saying that since something has never been done, it will never be done ...?

I do recall that they were talking about sending people house to house to "convince" them to get the jab.
 
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Devi said:
Well, you seem to be saying that since something has never been done, it will never be done ...?

I do recall that they were talking about sending people house to house to "convince" them to get the jab.
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That would be entertaining for me; I'd make coffee & have a great time with them.....as long as they stayed respectful.
 
win231 said:
Doesn't matter to me if mandatory vaccination is new or old. Lots of things were mandatory at one time - slavery, tattoos, medical experiments, kidnapping & murder.
I make my health decisions; no one else does.
A mandate is one thing. I can comply with any mandate. Anyone who physically tries to force a drug or vaccine on me will pay with their life.
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Well that makes it really clear your position on the covid-19 vaccine.

Before you might be hospitalized. Don't forget to update your living will to include no life saving blood transfusion by blood containing the covid-9 vaccine.
 
I’m pro vaccine but anti mandate. While no one has yet proposed physically forcing a vaccine on the populace, taking away your livelihood is pretty damn close. Over 70% of the population has been fully vaccinated. I see this as a power play, pure and simple.
 
To be honest, I've already had Covid — a couple of years ago, before they named it "Covid 19" and certainly well before any vaccine. I'm also elderly, chunky around the middle, diabetic and don't get enough exercise.

Just saying, as it appears that getting Covid is not the automatic death sentence that some believe it is.

[Added] I have to add that it was not that bad. Certainly not as bad as (but different from) some of the flues I've had. (Although I don't get sick often; usually about 18 years between sicknesses.)
 
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Devi said:
To be honest, I've already had Covid — a couple of years ago, before they named it "Covid 19" and certainly well before any vaccine. I'm also elderly, chunky around the middle, diabetic and don't get enough exercise.

Just saying, as it appears that getting Covid is not the automatic death sentence that some believe it is.

[Added] I have to add that it was not that bad. Certainly not as bad (but different from) some of the flues I've had. (Although I don't get sick often; usually about 18 years between sicknesses.)
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It may not be "automatic" but statistics show that infected people who already have comorbidities are more likely to make a quick exit to the afterlife.

As seniors on this forum, we know that the body is in decline so people are suffering from one thing or another. Some have multiple health issues.

I heard about a fully jabbed grandfather who flew to England to visit his grands. He hadn't seen them in awhile. Just so happens that one of the grands was infected. Unfortunately, the grandfather caught it and ended up in ICU. And died. But here is the kicker, the grandfather suffered from asthma for many years. So his lungs were already in bad shape. This virus thrives in the lungs. Too many people overlook comorbidities as a culprit.
 
I've been "mandated" several times.

In New Orleans to get into some (but not all) restaurants, shops, etc. I had to show the vaccination card.

Two of my "employers" have required it. I am just a very part time contract engineer with these companies, not really an employee. Both are larger companies with US government contracts. One asked for a copy of my vaccination card, and one just took my word for it. I have contracts with other large companies who have not required it.

I don't know what the consequences of not being vaccinated would have been...

Except at one shop in New Orleans, did not have my card with me, they asked me to go get it and come back. I didn't.
 
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Devi said:
I do recall that they were talking about sending people house to house to "convince" them to get the jab.
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The goal of that was to educate people about the vaccines and answer any questions or concerns they may have. No evil convincing going on, LOL. The most they may have done for someone, if they were homebound and couldn't easily get out to a clinic for a vaccine, is to arrange for a nurse to contact them and perhaps administer it in their homes. I think even in my state they had some kind of service where they would come to your home and vaccinate you either inside or outside of your house. If I wasn't mobile, I would welcome that..
 
Nosy Bee-54 said:
It may not be "automatic" but statistics show that infected people who already have comorbidities are more likely to make a quick exit to the afterlife.

As seniors on this forum, we know that the body is in decline so people are suffering from one thing or another. Some have multiple health issues.

I heard about a fully jabbed grandfather who flew to England to visit his grands. He hadn't seen them in awhile. Just so happens that one of the grands was infected. Unfortunately, the grandfather caught it and ended up in ICU. And died. But here is the kicker, the grandfather suffered from asthma for many years. So his lungs were already in bad shape. This virus thrives in the lungs. Too many people overlook comorbidities as a culprit.
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"But here is the kicker, the grandfather suffered from asthma for many years. So his lungs were already in bad shape. This virus thrives in the lungs. Too many people overlook comorbidities as a culprit."

My cousin in her late 70's has COPD bad, also type 2 diabetic and had Covid and recovered. She said it was like a bad case of the flu. Its not the same for everyone. We all react differently.
 
Knight said:
Well that makes it really clear your position on the covid-19 vaccine.

Before you might be hospitalized. Don't forget to update your living will to include no life saving blood transfusion by blood containing the covid-9 vaccine.
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The "All or Nothing" argument indicates desperation to make an invalid point seem valid.
 
win231 said:
The "All or Nothing" argument indicates desperation to make an invalid point seem valid.
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No point attempted. You posted you would kill anyone trying to inject you with a covid-19 vaccine. No way to know if that radical position of yours included life saving blood transfusion from a person that carried that vaccine in their donated blood.

JW's won't allow a blood transfusion. I'm not suggesting you are a JW just pointing something you may have overlooked.
 
win231 said:
I can't see that happening either, but these days.....who knows. It looks like they're pushing harder & harder.
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I'm beginning to be able to envision any scenario regarding this virus and vaccination for it. If someone would take a person's livelihood away based upon their medical status, they are desperate and would do even more if they believe another helpless and that they could get away with it.
If this was about health and not money, why is our government treating it's citizens with such outright contempt? That's what it is, let's face it. They first terrify us, confuse us, shame us, then blame us, mandate us into a state of unendurable stress until we can hardly make a decision any more and then they hit us with the decision of all time, get vaccinated with an experimental drug or lose every freedom you've got left. That's not a decision, it's the lowest form of coercion I've seen in my entire life.
 
Knight said:
No point attempted. You posted you would kill anyone trying to inject you with a covid-19 vaccine. No way to know if that radical position of yours included life saving blood transfusion from a person that carried that vaccine in their donated blood.

JW's won't allow a blood transfusion. I'm not suggesting you are a JW just pointing something you may have overlooked.
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You obviously overlooked 1st-grade reading.
I said, "Anyone who physically tries to force a drug or vaccine on me will pay with their life." Where did I mention a Covid vaccine?
"Force" is the key word. That means After I said "NO." Not a drug or vaccine I agree to take.
And my statement has nothing to do with a blood transfusion. That's your nonsensical "editing."
 

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