Why should God(s) help us if we don't help ourselves and others?

Empty said:
Just to clarify: My thread only stated:

No matter your beliefs or lack thereof, I'm sickened by religious leaders who continue to defy stay-at-home orders, encouraging people to gather under the premise/promise that they will have divine protection. (Posted by Em)
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As opposed to people who gather at beaches, in grocery stores, outside stores in lines crowing up so close they can smell each other’s ear wax? The human race is a herd, herds gather.
 

Empty said:
It just seemed to lead to personal sniping in places
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No matter how you speak what you do, what you say, this will happen.

Some people were never taught how to conduct themselves during polite conversation.

A few do not care and delight at being hidden, so they can be as nasty as they need to be. Pay them no mind.
 

RadishRose said:
No matter how you speak what you do, what you say, this will happen.

Some people were never taught how to conduct themselves during polite conversation.

A few do not care and delight at being hidden, so they can be as nasty as they need to be. Pay them no mind.
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My thoughts as well.
 
Not sure how relevant to this thread this comment might be, but an old farming friend of my fathers had this saying he used to repeat a lot, quote: "All that glitters is not gold.......Stay at home with your mother and dad"! :).
 
The Question

Why should God(s) help us if we don't help ourselves and others?

How does this apply to the Covid-19 virus?

What help should a person expect from God if they in fact help themselves & others?
 
Another question.

How are people behaving who have a strong faith in God?

Is there resi!since being tested, or do whatever lessons there are to be learnt in the bible, or other biblical texts, assist them dealing with the current crisis? Would they put my meagre efforts to shame?

There are a lot of questions when you think of it, and plenty I cannot answer, or no one can answer with certainty, and to everyone's satisfaction, but good news, wherever it can be found, and any remedies to thwart or reduce the impact of this virus, whilst stating the obvious, are the answers we'd all like to see.

I agree with your last line too, if it were a kind of answer to the thread topic(?).
 
grahamg said:
Another question.

How are people behaving who have a strong faith in God?

Is there resi!since being tested, or do whatever lessons there are to be learnt in the bible, or other biblical texts, assist them dealing with the current crisis? Would they put my meagre efforts to shame?

There are a lot of questions when you think of it, and plenty I cannot answer, or no one can answer with certainty, and to everyone's satisfaction, but good news, wherever it can be found, and any remedies to thwart or reduce the impact of this virus, whilst stating the obvious, are the answers we'd all like to see.

I agree with your last line too, if it were a kind of answer to the thread topic(?).
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Why do you equate God with the Bible?
 
Knight said:
The Question

Why should God(s) help us if we don't help ourselves and others?

How does this apply to the Covid-19 virus?

What help should a person expect from God if they in fact help themselves & others?
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What happens when we cannot help ourselves? Most things are beyond us and our limited understanding.
 
grahamg said:
Not a question I was expecting!

Whilst I try to think of a rational answer, beyond "some people think biblical texts were inspired by God", perhaps you can explain why you think the bible should not be equated with God (as we've nothing better to do)?
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I enjoy your thought pattern. :) It seems so many times humanity reaches out to bash Christians, when there are so many other religions. For example why do so many people say "Jesus Chri$t" in a fit of anger instead of "Oh Bud#a?" It's my opinion that many ignorantly oppose God, to their detriment.
 
Knight said:
The Question

Why should God(s) help us if we don't help ourselves and others?

How does this apply to the Covid-19 virus?

What help should a person expect from God if they in fact help themselves & others?
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IMO, no one should expect help from God. Comfort, yes, help, no.
 
Gardenlover said:
I enjoy your thought pattern. :) It seems so many times humanity reaches out to bash Christians, when there are so many other religions. For example why do so many people say "Jesus Chri$t" in a fit of anger instead of "Oh Bud#a?" It's my opinion that many ignorantly oppose God, to their detriment.
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We all probably gain comfort from listening to the wisdom and wit of the Dali Lama don't we(?).

Anger, as you describe, can be a negative obviously, and I know I'm guilty of speaking without thinking often enough too.

Thanks for the comp!iment though. :).
 
Gardenlover said:
Is help not comfort? I do not think you have thought much, if at all, on this subject.
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So going to bed soon, but let me answer you. Help imo is the expectation that God will actively do something. I don’t think he will, because of free choice. Because I have free choice. I also think God has a great sense of humor.

I don’t pray for God to heal me. I don”t pray for God to stop my pain, of which I have a lot. Oh, every now and then I do the why me thing. I am human, but mostly I am a thou will be done kind of person. So, I never asked/prayed to God to save my dying sons.

One dead at two days, one at 6 weeks, one at a year of age. I prayed thou will be done. They died. The fact that I find comfort in believing they are in heaven is not helpful to my grief or my loss.

As to God’s sense of humor, it shows itself in many ways. i will make a long story, short. For many years I thought I had a rare leukemia. Saw a cancer doctor, nope. Whatever. Years later, still thinking I had a rare leukemia. Others doctors thought so also.

Same cancer clinic, different doctor. Doctor comes in, says nope, no leukemia. Husband and I get up to leave. Doctor says but. But what? Husband and I sit down. You have MDS. A rare red blood cell cancer. We, the doctor and I, decided I’ve had it since I was 18 or 19.

MDS can turn into leukemia at any time. 🤭🤔🤣. Yup, I think it’s funny. I think God think it’s funny. I have a long term incurable red blood cancer. Can God do anything about it? Nope. Can the docs cure it? Nope. Will it become leukemia? Your guess is as good as mine.

Do I find all this funny? The cancer thing funny (Not the death of my sons.). Yup.
 
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I forgot to say. I go to the cancer center once a year to track the disease. The appointment is in December-the gift that keeps on giving. 😂
 
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