Will the suicide rate go up?

Aneeda72 said:
Not directed towards anyone-just a general statement in reaction to even the thought of shooting someone whether they are coming for me or not.
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That's what I figured. The 'shooting children first to spare them from starving' bit read as a dramarama knee-jerk response to shooting in general with no actual attempt to read and comprehend context. Target shooting as a deterrent isn't shooting starving children. :rolleyes:
 

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Actually, a fair amount of children have been shot and killed through the history of our country as stupid adults “protect” worthless stuff. In fact, children die in drive by shootings in this country almost every day.

Hmm, dramarma-whatever. Knee jerk response? Nope. An awareness of the situations of other people. People who need food not bullets, and toilet paper, lots of toilet paper.

Children starve in this country-failure to thrive. Adults, older adults, starve in this country. Homeless starve, freeze, and are beaten and shot with bullets. Oh my, be still my knees. Most children in need will go without; and some will starve, without access to school breakfast and lunch due to school closure. Children in your community.

But as long as some people can buy bullets, and give fair warning to their communities, and care only for themselves, well, heck-hmm, wait. Who touched those bullets before you bought them? The virus is not killed by a bullet. Lol. Run your figures through them. Enjoy.

But stay safe, fed, and warm. Think of the others who can‘t.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Most children in need will go without; and some will starve, without access to school breakfast and lunch due to school closure. Children in your community.
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Since you're so up into my business and all judgey about it too ...you'll be happy to know I'm helping finance meals for children out of school in my community. About to sit down at the craft table to sew masks with antimicrobial fabric for sick in the community who can't skip medical appointments because I've already given a bunch of n95s away.

Who touched those bullets before you bought them? The virus is not killed by a bullet. Lol. Run your figures through them. Enjoy.
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You're self-righteous about guns but wish a deadly virus on someone?

Aneeda72 said:
But stay safe, fed, and warm. Think of the others who can‘t.
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Thankfully some of us have the means to do the first and contribute towards helping those that can't by both finances and actions. Had that example set for me by gun owning parents who still do the same. Charitable gun owners ...whodathunk it, lol!
 

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I can understand why some folks feel that they need firearms. In my neighborhood and city I feel pretty safe without them. But, if I lived out in the boondocks or a rough inner city area, I might reconsider. I've only fired a pistol once in my life and that was in Navy training. I don't think any of the shots hit the target. Let's hope nobody has to shoot anybody. Maybe we can just keep helping each other out.

Don
 
As I have said, and am saying again, I am not commenting to AnnieA. I have no ideal why AnnieA thinks I am. AnnieA I am sorry you think I am talking to you I am not.

I believe in assisted suicide. I don’t think suicide rates will go up because of the virus, but possibly because of anxiety over the virus. I think money for bullets and guns could be spent elsewhere. But everyone should buy as many as they want-of guns and bullets.

Although bullets can not be eaten, drunk, or used as TP. (Yes, I am going to need therapy over this lack of TP issue. Of all the things to drive you crazy, this was my Waterloo. Some people want to be buried with a bell, I want to be cremated with a package of TP. I’ve got to update my will.)

I have not wished the virus on anyone-not even some horrible people I’ve known in the past. That would be silly, it’s a virus. You get it or not. It‘s not effected by wishful thinking. I do see the irony, however, in buying items of destruction which may lead to the buyers destruction.

The thought that anyone would go out and buy items of destruction when the nation, as a whole, may be on a path of destruction is, well, mind blowing to me. I did not buy any N95’s, or any type of mask, or any guns, or any bullets.

I was too busy trying to buy and find TP. I do not wear gloves when I go out. I have winter gloves, though. This will pass. Some will die, lots will live. It will pass. Calm down is my advice, everyone go out to buy food, water, necessities. Guns and bullets are not necessary, in my opinion.

I wash my hands. Make my husband wash his hands. I am not afraid of the virus. It’s, as I have said a virus. Does no good to be afraid. I am probably afraid of people in panic who have guns.
 
Aneeda72 said:
As I have said, and am saying again, I am not commenting to AnnieA. I have no ideal why AnnieA thinks I am. AnnieA I am sorry you think I am talking to you I am not.

I believe in assisted suicide. I don’t think suicide rates will go up because of the virus, but possibly because of anxiety over the virus. I think money for bullets and guns could be spent elsewhere. But everyone should buy as many as they want-of guns and bullets.
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Gee. I dunno. Maybe because I'm the only person in the thread that posted about buying bullets and target practice and then you replied using parts of my next post verbatim.

And you posted this which sounds like a person coming into contact with the virus via bullets is a happy thought to you.

But as long as some people can buy bullets, and give fair warning to their communities, and care only for themselves, well, heck-hmm, wait. Who touched those bullets before you bought them? The virus is not killed by a bullet. Lol. Run your figures through them. Enjoy.
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But whatever ...hope you find your toilet paper and regain your sanity.

Yes, I am going to need therapy over this lack of TP issue. Of all the things to drive you crazy, this was my Waterloo.
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AnnieA said:
Gee. I dunno. Maybe because I'm the only person in the thread that posted about buying bullets and target practice and then you replied to parts of my next post verbatim.

And you posted this which sounds like a person coming into contact via bullets is a happy thought to you.



But whatever ...hope you find your toilet paper and regain your sanity.
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Nope, I think my sanity is gone for the long haul. I do have toilet paper, thanks be to the toilet papers gods otherwise known as smiths grocery store, but I am very insure about my supply. Totally nuts. Go ahead, laugh.

Now I am talking directly to you, AnnieA. If I counted right, 8 other people on the thread made some mention of guns or shooting-some before your comment I think. I reread the thread and while my short term memory is lame, I think you mentioned buying 5000 bullets. How heavy are those?

Why would anyone need that many bullets? I’ve only heard of that many bullets in connection with mass shootings. Certainly not for use in mass suicides. You couldn’t get that many people together for that purpose.

I asked my husband, a Vietnam combat marine disabled vet (small disability plus PTSD). How many bullets they used for target practice-20 or so. How many did he need in the jungle while, well, killing people who were trying to kill him. He said 4 or 5 magazines, with 20 in each magazine. Not 5000, ever.

He was one of the guys who walked behind a tank, guarding the tank. The tanks killed lots-men, woman, children-most of which, even the children, were trying to kill him, them. So why does an american, in America need 5000 bullets? If a marine, in a war in Vietnam, only needs a 100?

Just curious.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Nope, I think my sa

I reread the thread and while my short term memory is lame, I think you mentioned buying 5000 bullets. How heavy are those?
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Weight depends on the caliber. And when your range is the back pond levee, you use way more than twenty per range session. In addition to the need for rural self defense, if--as you say--the country is headed for destruction ...and I pray it's not, range time is fun. Shooting is a sport. Check the Olympics.

Sorry for the derail @Grampa Don. Will stop. Am pretty sure it's wasted time anyhow.
 
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Don M. said:
I don't know about "suicides", but if this epidemic continues to worsen, and cities begin to shut down, I can see a real possibility for civil unrest, and even crime to increase. If large numbers of people, with little in the way of savings, become financially stressed, they are going to take to the streets, and begin looting stores, etc. The entertainment and restaurant industries, for example, have virtually shut down for the next few weeks....and the bulk of those people are probably minimum wage earners, with little ability to withstand their loss of pay. Even if the government agrees to send everyone a "check", that will not last long for many people. Desperation could easily set in, and anything resembling Civil society could begin to quickly decline.
If these conditions continue to exist for more than another month, or two, the Spring/Summer of 2020 could be a real mess.
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Aneeda72 said:
Actually, a fair amount of children have been shot and killed through the history of our country as stupid adults “protect” worthless stuff. In fact, children die in drive by shootings in this country almost every day.

Hmm, dramarma-whatever. Knee jerk response? Nope. An awareness of the situations of other people. People who need food not bullets, and toilet paper, lots of toilet paper.

Children starve in this country-failure to thrive. Adults, older adults, starve in this country. Homeless starve, freeze, and are beaten and shot with bullets. Oh my, be still my knees. Most children in need will go without; and some will starve, without access to school breakfast and lunch due to school closure. Children in your community.

But as long as some people can buy bullets, and give fair warning to their communities, and care only for themselves, well, heck-hmm, wait. Who touched those bullets before you bought them? The virus is not killed by a bullet. Lol. Run your figures through them. Enjoy.

But stay safe, fed, and warm. Think of the others who can‘t.
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Oh, brother!
 
exwisehe said:
Don, I hope you are wrong, but you may be right.

I lived on 2nd and Forest in Detroit in '67 during the riot, while finishing a degree. Most people left the city, but I couldn't, so a few of us gathered in a single room for security (strength in numbers) and watch t.v. None of us had a weapon, and our apt building was raided by the Nat. Guard looking for a sniper. (they found none)

There were tanks going up and down the streets, and Pres. Johnson had some low-flying fighter jets to disperse the crowds. I watched as a grocery store across the street was broken into by mobs and people stole grocery carts full of food and ran down the street with them. I had VA tags on my car and was stopped a few times by police who asked for identification.

If it comes down to mobs in the street again, I'm just glad I live next door to a highly trained state trooper.
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I was working in Washington, D.C. in '68 during the riots following Martin Luther King's assassination and saw the same things there -- angry mobs and fires and looting and such. My memory of all that and the terror (yes, real terror) I felt trying to get out of DC and home to Maryland will never grow dim or doubtful. It took 5 hours to make that trip, which normally took about 45 minutes.

Our office was on one of the upper floors of a building and we did not realize what was going on until quitting time and by then the whole thing was in full swing. It was like stepping out into Dante's Inferno.
 
AnnieA said:
If that was directed at me, please re-read post #20. I don't think you comprehended what I posted at all. Target shooting is a deterrent. But to answer your question, in a home invasion, the people you shoot are the ones coming to shoot you. You target shoot ...a lot... as a deterrent so those folks pass your place by.
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Yup! It's not as if you are going out and shooting random people, but if they crash through your front door . . . .
 
Judycat said:
In times of uncertainty you can depend upon your fellow man...
to make things worse.

I can't afford to buy the amount of supplies other people are buying. I have to live on a budget or I am sunk. Neither do I want to buy too much and have to throw it away later. I am alone so don't need a lot to survive. Remain strong. We will endure. This too shall pass. Turn off the news. Those jerks are winding everyone up.
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You bet that the jerks, the news media is winding everyone up. You can't shake hands with anyone, the libraries are shut, senior condo people told not to walk the hallways, what next? In the province where I live 17 people got Cornavirus. The population of my province is 1.3 million. More people die from suicides or traffic accidents. Why is everyone so scared? I'm sick & tired of it all.
 
Suicide rates? Certainly, watching the news nonstop will make almost anyone go a little nutso. Thankfully my SO and I are able to turn off the tube and just chat for an hour or so most evenings. Best therapy I can think of. I also have brothers and son and grandsons that I exchange messages with almost daily.

If you happen to have a friend who is living alone, please give them a call just to let them know they are not alone in this.
 
Packerjohn said:
Canadians are buying & hoarding toilet paper. Americans are standing in line to buy guns & ammo. Different strokes for different folks.
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Some morons down here are hoarding toilet paper as well............Don't try to insinuate that we are all only gun-nuts. We're not.
 
I’m not hoarding TP. I walked across the street, knocked on the door of a lady older than me. We introduced ourselves, since I just moved here, and I asked if she needed some eggs or anything else. Eggs? That’s what I need eggs.

Taking a deep breathe, her storm door was closed, lol, I asked her if she needed toilet paper. Yes, yes, it killed me but she looks about 80 or older. No, just eggs. Handed her a carton. Went home, hugged my package of toilet paper, and took off shopping.

My sister in law in Seattle needs wipes, found some at Winco, will mail them to her. Life goes on-
 
Packerjohn said:
...More people die from suicides or traffic accidents. Why is everyone so scared? I'm sick & tired of it all.
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Because TPTB don't want Covid-19 headed to the top of the cause of death in your neck of the woods as it has in Italy where army convoys are transporting the dead from a disease because funeral homes and crematoriums can't keep up.

Social distancing slows the spread of contagious disease.
 
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